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Old 01-22-07, 12:40 PM
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Warm and toasty. Also approved by the wife for purchase should they fit. Now where to get them? The shop in Piermont, NY doesn't have my size but is ordering.
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I think BikeMan and Alfred E Bike prices are in the $169 or less range. The road version I bought from BikeMan were 2006, black not gunmetal gray, and LOOK only. Apparently Lake can punch them for SPD if you get an RMA. The 2007 are set for LOOK and SPD from what I understand.
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Depends on your size. I think I recall http://www.lickbike.com having good prices overall, but a few retailers with only a few sizes left have been lower.

I was going to buy a pair until I realized they screwed me on the sizing. I'm a 48, the shoes run a little small, and they don't make a 49.

Why they jumped from 48 to 50 is beyond me. I ran across a fellow on ebay selling some 50's for next to nothing recently. He was a 48 who'd unsuccessfully tried to go up two sizes. Oh well. Hope they work out for you.
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Indeed, my concern is size, so I'm inclined to pick them up at Piermont when they're in. That means this week will be all chilliness, though. Brrr! Oh and if as JeffS says they run small, the 44 should be good for me, as 44 is on the roomy size for me (by design) with my other bike shoes.
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Definitely check Lickbike.com in Chicago. If they don't appear to have your size, call. I got the MXZ301 from there for the best price at the time. Lake tend to run a bit small in general. I went with 1.5 sizes up from my normal Lake size (44.5 to 46, normally 10.5US) and have been very happy.
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My road shoes are size 46 nike. I had to go with size 47 for shimano and diadora patrol MTB shoes. The Lake CXZ301 in size 47 fit (though they don't look large). I've worn very thick wool socks and still had wiggle room for the toes.
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Originally Posted by oboeguy
Warm and toasty. Also approved by the wife for purchase should they fit. Now where to get them? The shop in Piermont, NY doesn't have my size but is ordering.
If you wanna save a bit of cash, the Answer Kashmirs are running $75-$90 on eBay. I've got a pair of each and have yet to really discern any difference, although the Kashmirs have only been in service since the start of this winter.
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If you wanna save a bit of cash, the Answer Kashmirs are running $75-$90 on eBay. I've got a pair of each and have yet to really discern any difference, although the Kashmirs have only been in service since the start of this winter.
Really? Hmmm, I'd heard that the Answers aren't nearly as warm. My feet get reeeeally cold. I was thinking of going for sandals (recent thread here) but the consensus appeared to be that it's only good down to around 30ish. I ride in colder than that (commute year 'round, wo0t! plus train year round).
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So now that you're commuting again, does that mean you're outta school? Should we be calling you Dr. O. Guy?
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Originally Posted by dobber
If you wanna save a bit of cash, the Answer Kashmirs are running $75-$90 on eBay. I've got a pair of each and have yet to really discern any difference, although the Kashmirs have only been in service since the start of this winter.
These guys have Kashmirs in sizes 47 & 48 for $99.

http://centurycycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=2019

I put the Lake / Kashmirs up for a poll in winter riding. Lake won but Kashmirs had a good showing. BikeMan liked the Lakes. I went with them because they were LOOK compatible (actually LOOK only with the 2006 model).

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Really? Hmmm, I'd heard that the Answers aren't nearly as warm. My feet get reeeeally cold. I was thinking of going for sandals (recent thread here) but the consensus appeared to be that it's only good down to around 30ish. ...
I heard the same on Kasmir (probably from BikeMan) I did try sandals with 3 wool socks and sealskinz and that was equivalent to road shoes with peformance neoprene booties at 30F. Even with the Lakes my toes get chilled (not painfull) below 30F and 45 minutes. I'm checking a 3 setting battery powered sock for sub 25F now.
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So now that you're commuting again, does that mean you're outta school? Should we be calling you Dr. O. Guy?
Almost! Believe me, I'll announce it over in Foo when the time comes.

robtown: have you seen the Sidi heated footbeds? They have a rechargeable battery integrated into the sole. Sick. Price is sick too, about the same or more, IIRC, as the Lake shoes.
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Be sure you are buying the right shoe for your riding. For extended riding I won't wear these much below 30 F or above 50 F. For 1 hour at a time, they are good down to like 20 F. Between 10-15 F I find my feet starting to get cold after 30 min and below 10 I'm feeling numb toes after 30 min. I now use sorels below 10 F. I know of at least one other review on this website that had similar numbers to mine. I post this just as an FYI, as some people find them plenty warm even at lower temps. Personally, I don't.
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Originally Posted by oboeguy
Almost! Believe me, I'll announce it over in Foo when the time comes.

robtown: have you seen the Sidi heated footbeds? They have a rechargeable battery integrated into the sole. Sick. Price is sick too, about the same or more, IIRC, as the Lake shoes.
I've seen them and have enough suffering justifying the Lakes to my better half. I just got the $30 heat sox today. They're a bit on the small side and my inside testing does not look promising. A real ride in sub 30F will tell.
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I've seen them and have enough suffering justifying the Lakes to my better half. I just got the $30 heat sox today. They're a bit on the small side and my inside testing does not look promising. A real ride in sub 30F will tell.
These things help. They're not perfect but better than nothing. Buy bulk, though, as individually they're pricey (heck even in bulk they're not all that cheap).
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Originally Posted by DogBoy
I post this just as an FYI, as some people find them plenty warm even at lower temps. Personally, I don't.
I am one of those - mine are a size larger than my summer shoes, so that I can wear thick wool socks, and I find them comfortable down to 10F or so - my commute is a bit over an hour in the winter time, and my hands (in ski gloves) get cold before my feet.
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I am one of those - mine are a size larger than my summer shoes, so that I can wear thick wool socks, and I find them comfortable down to 10F or so - my commute is a bit over an hour in the winter time, and my hands (in ski gloves) get cold before my feet.
Same here, at 18F my feet were chilled on the way to cold but my thumbs were cold and hurting. Didn't pay much attention to the toes.

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These things help. They're not perfect but better than nothing. Buy bulk, though, as individually they're pricey (heck even in bulk they're not all that cheap).
Yes, I tried some toe warmers but they must have been old and didn't work. I'm looking for a less costly alternative. The Lake winter shoes are also more convenient than multiple layers of socks and sandals (or at least faster). But they are true road shoes - not for long hikes with LOOK cleats.

OBOEGUY - sorry for the hijack - looking forward to hearing about your results when you get your pair!
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I believe performance has em. Gotham bikes also has the Sidi shoes.
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Get the mountain bike version. I like the soles better for walking around in the muck...I got my '06 on closeout at bikeman.
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Get the mountain bike version. I like the soles better for walking around in the muck...I got my '06 on closeout at bikeman.
Hmmm. I can't decide now -- the MTB ones are tempting as they'd be better suited for commuting (and my folder has SPD-style cleats). OTOH, I like to ride my road bike in the cold too but then I wouldn't want to switch cleats (edit: road bike has LOOKs).
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I believe performance has em. Gotham bikes also has the Sidi shoes.
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When it's that cold, I doubt you'll be able to fully appreciate the roadie anyway. Get the mtb shoes, it's hard enough walking around in regular road shoes, let alone clunky ones.
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I got a pair of these . It's exactly like their mtb shoe except with outlast insulation and a cuff. Very light and "bike shoe" like feel, unlike some of the other shoes which feel like a boot.
There's also the road version. It's essentially the same shoe as the mtb shoe without the lugs down below.
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Oh I thought you meant the Sidi footbed.
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Originally Posted by oboeguy
Hmmm. I can't decide now -- the MTB ones are tempting as they'd be better suited for commuting (and my folder has SPD-style cleats). OTOH, I like to ride my road bike in the cold too but then I wouldn't want to switch cleats (edit: road bike has LOOKs).
I had the same dilemma. In the end, I decided that switching pedals was minor compared to the added versatility of the mtb shoes. You can do more with them: really yucky mountain biking, commuting, and yes road riding. And where I live, most definitely better to walk in the muck, and on slippery surfaces. The mtbs have front studs included to help with traction.
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...The mtbs have front studs included to help with traction.
Or to help put a nice gash in the nice wood end of bed trunk of your wife's when you are half awake and put your foot up on it to secure the straps....

Let's just say...she was re-thinking her support of my commuting on that day.
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