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squegeeboo 01-25-07 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Traicovn
Now if only they would replace car headlights with techno rave blacklights....


You bring the E, I'll bring the soap bubbles for the inevitable dance/trance party.

slowandsteady 01-25-07 01:48 PM

That EL wire is pretty cool. Can you get that stuff at Radio Shack?

2manybikes 01-25-07 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
After yesterday's screaming near miss, I'm seeking a helmet that lights when you put it on...the whole helmet, all the way around. Sounds funny but, I'm thinking a lit helmet would increase side and front viz.

Anyone know where to get one of those?

I used two of the reflective illuminated flashing ankle bands to make a collar for Bailey. Three of them would probably go all the way around a helmet. There are a few different kinds on line. Or you could buy as many as you want and cover every inch of the helmet with them.

Then you would have to promise never to ride with me. :D

But, you have to promise to post a photo.

Edit post: After thinking about it for a minute, if you do that I want you to promise that you will ride with me.


http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3345/hpim6056uk8.jpg

flipped4bikes 01-25-07 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
Ugh. Male camel toe.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Not.

vrkelley 01-25-07 02:43 PM

2MB First blush I wondered if they had these in my collar size! :D But all around the helmet might be better. couple of zip-ties would work. Wondering how long do those batteries last?


Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I used two of the reflective illuminated flashing ankle bands to make a collar for Bailey. Three of them would probably go all the way around a helmet. There are a few different kinds on line. Or you could buy as many as you want and cover every inch of the helmet with them.

Edit post: After thinking about it for a minute, if you do that I want you to promise that you will ride with me.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3345/hpim6056uk8.jpg


vrkelley 01-25-07 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Not.

This thread was intended all in humor....:p I'm mess' n with ya!

DScott 01-25-07 03:11 PM

If you're going to have a helmet all lit up, you might as well just go all the way and get one of these to ride in:


http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk/KW-Wom.JPG


Synth optional... ;)

Shiznaz 01-25-07 03:36 PM

Dude I would ride in those in a second. On the Autobahn even. AUUUTOOOOOBAHHHN!

Half of Kraftwerk quit because cycling was so important to the other members of the group.

2manybikes 01-25-07 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
2MB First blush I wondered if they had these in my collar size! :D But all around the helmet might be better. couple of zip-ties would work. Wondering how long do those batteries last?


:roflmao:

If you will put one around your neck and go for a ride in the dark, I will give you one. Provided you post a photo. They have a stretch fabric and velcro, one size fits all. :D

Zip ties will work fine.
I don't use Bailey's much, I don't know about the batteries. The on line ones might say.


Edit post: Bingo. - all kinds of things, take a look http://www.polybrite.com/products.html

Here's one.

Visible from up to one mile at night, in low-light, and no-light situations
Made of lightweight shock and weather resistant materials
One (1) standard watch battery (included) last up to 200 hours in flashing mode
Light and reflect
Safe - Operate on 3 volts
Patented polymer/LED combination
Constant or Flashing Light

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6...dcollar8fa.jpg

vrkelley 01-25-07 06:16 PM

Bring it on 2MB...if thie works, I will post - action shots.:D

vrkelley 01-25-07 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
The fun way to do it would be with EL wire. If you're handy with a wirestripper and soldering gun, you could outline a whole helmet with EL wire or EL tape. It would be lightweight, takes little juice to power it, and would be very bright.

Another option is flat-mount LEDs. Again, handy with a soldering iron is a big requirement.

What started out as a half-joke might actually work. Here's a link to some EL wire. The outdoor stuff is $1.30 per foot. A small light waterproof battery box at the back of the head could work.

http://www.coolight.com/category-s/54.htm

slvoid 01-25-07 06:41 PM

Problem with El wire is that it glows but it's not that bright. What you need is a flexible strip of surface mounted LED's. Think of a string of blinkers on your head.

TRaffic Jammer 01-25-07 06:47 PM

not a helmet specific piece but the light strip can come out and be purposed, and it's a hell great hard shell to boot. I've got one and it's awesome.

http://cyclight.com/
http://cyclight.com/TechDesign/StrobeLite.htm

Two Buck Chuck 01-25-07 08:07 PM

Take a look at the Busch & Mueller Top Fire at Peter White Cycles:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp (scroll down to bottom of page)
At only 18g, you could buy several of them and cover your entire helmet and not even notice the extra weight. Personally, I just have one set showing through the rear of my helmet vents.

2manybikes 01-25-07 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
Bring it on 2MB...if thie works, I will post - action shots.:D

You got it. :D

If you could get a photo of slvoid riding with one, I would be tempted to give you a new bike !



Originally Posted by slvoid
Problem with El wire is that it glows but it's not that bright. What you need is a flexible strip of surface mounted LED's. Think of a string of blinkers on your head.

See above. I'm sending one just like Bailey's to vrkelley.

flipped4bikes 01-26-07 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Two Buck Chuck
Take a look at the Busch & Mueller Top Fire at Peter White Cycles:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp (scroll down to bottom of page)
At only 18g, you could buy several of them and cover your entire helmet and not even notice the extra weight. Personally, I just have one set showing through the rear of my helmet vents.

It's cool looking but I can only imagine replacing batteries on it would be expensive. It's prolly too late now, but I bought battery powered LED Xmas lights from Target. I can see wrapping those 18 bulbs around one's helmet and get noticed. They don't blink though...

vrkelley 01-26-07 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes
slvoid riding with one

Somebody already posted...that's him in the yellow! :D

vrkelley 01-26-07 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
They don't blink though...

Just one replacement blinker flashes the whole set. Go for it!

2manybikes 01-26-07 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
Somebody already posted...that's him in the yellow! :D


:roflmao:

2manybikes 01-26-07 06:11 PM

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Too cold to go out again, decided to stay in tonight........


http://www.enlighted.com/pages/mr1776.shtml

http://www.noginsox.com/services.html

http://www.enlighted.com/pages/headwear.shtml

http://cgi.ebay.com/LIGHTED-HELMET-M...QQcmdZViewItem


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vrkelley 01-26-07 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes

Because of the uniform width, Bailey's collar would probably work better.

Edited: Wow Visability up to 1 mile! Not too shabby. Right now from the front, they don't seem to see strobes, headlights, and 3-M. So maybe if one works, I'll buy a 2nd and slide the widest parts @about a 45Degree angle.

slvoid 01-26-07 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
Somebody already posted...that's him in the yellow! :D

Wait till I get my hands on you... :p

vrkelley 01-26-07 10:00 PM

:roflmao: Yeah and you haven't had any crash-encounters" with cagers lately...so it looks like the suit works.

ken cummings 01-26-07 10:43 PM

Took me a while to figure out an approach. First make a clear plastic bike helmet. Coat it with a thin layer of waterproof phosphors. Liberally attach UV emitting LEDs inside the helmet pointing outward. (no need to sunburn your scalp) Wait for night and power up the LEDs. Presto, glowing helmet.

OR: Cover the helmet with Tritium powered night-lights.

OR: Use black-light paint on the helmet and have one of those stealthed Black Helicopters follow you with a UV spotlight.

OR: Have a Neon sign artist build a neon tube cover for your helmet and plub into a power supply in a pannier.

OR: In the old days you could use the radium paint once used on watch dials.

:D

vrkelley 01-27-07 09:59 AM

Clearly by reading other posts in this forum, helmet mfgs just aren't keeping up with the commuter needs. I would have guessed by now we'd see Ken's clear lid with the LEDs or tubing under the cover, some traffic sound proofing/warmth over the ears along with vents that close for waterproofing. For winter, some helments have one feature but not all.

After another near miss right-hook last night with merging truck, the strobes + headlight are getting lost in a sea of car lights. On upward hills are another problem. They're not seeing the helmet reflectant and a single forward facing light probably won't fix it.

TRaffic Jammer 01-27-07 10:15 AM

My fullface does wonders for insulation and sound. I wonder if proximity alarms will be installed in cars as they get even more soundproof, they won't be able to hear, traffic cop whistles, horns, bells, or the horrific screams of cyclists being squeezed out. Would a fully lit helmet mess with night vision the same way as having the dome light in the car does?

Bekologist 01-27-07 11:06 AM

I think a marine safety strobe, zip tied to a helmet, (better yet, mounted off the top like a gladiator helmet's crest, would provide a LOT of traffic visibility.

It might make riding feel like you're on the dance floor in the seventies, when the strobes came on....

RonH 01-27-07 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
After yesterday's screaming near miss, I'm seeking a helmet that lights when you put it on...the whole helmet, all the way around.

Hi VR. Sorry to hear about your near miss. Glad it was a miss.
Have you thought about putting a few Planet Bike Blinky 3H blinkies on the back and sides?
Not the cheapest solution but cheaper than a visit to the ER.

2manybikes 01-28-07 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by vrkelley
Because of the uniform width, Bailey's collar would probably work better.

Edited: Wow Visability up to 1 mile! Not too shabby. Right now from the front, they don't seem to see strobes, headlights, and 3-M. So maybe if one works, I'll buy a 2nd and slide the widest parts @about a 45Degree angle.

When you say "the front" do you mean a car coming at you from the other direction?

If that's what you mean, a good powerfull HID light is thousands of times easier for a car to see than any LED blinkers or even LED headlights. It's easier to see than a car headlight, the wide beam pattern is unique. There is nothing available on the market today that will be as visible to a driver, nothing remotely bike related or smalll enough to go on a bike. And the view from an angle less than, say 90-80 degrees is better than any LED blinkers in the world. When you get to 90 degrees the bulb on some HID's are hidden and some are visible, but the ground and everything in front of the bike is lit up like a car headlight, that's very easy to see. The wide beam of the HID lights up things higher up, like a sign, post, house, etc, than a car light. Lotsa $$$ yes.

There is a strap just like Bailey's on the way to the bike shop now.

vrkelley 01-28-07 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Would a fully lit helmet mess with night vision the same way as having the dome light in the car does?

Good point. 3 flashing Bike Planets LEDs on the front and a couple on the back might be pretty distracting for the rider.


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