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Old 04-16-07, 09:27 AM
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what color tape with shellack to match honey brooks?

whats up everyone,

I just installed a new saddle on my single speed I used a Brooks B17 honey (I was afraid black would stain clothes)

anyway I put on leather mudflaps (company I work for sells conveyor belting) I put on leather mudflaps

and would like to do the bars , the only color tape I ever used was yellow and used bullseye "Amber"

over it! it comes out good except it takes as many as 6 coats of shellack to get the yellow base the right color.

would starting with orange make a quicker/better match. My saddle bag on the SS is a carradice barley in Green the straps are more orange than honey .

I never tried using orange because none of the LBS had any They have orange in staock at the moment.

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There must be a "show bike" forum around here somewhere you can ask in...
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Originally Posted by JeffS
There must be a "show bike" forum around here somewhere you can ask in...


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I have always used yellow with amber shellac, as well.

Here is a good link from the nice fellow at Velo Orange:
http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2006...basics_22.html
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Originally Posted by barba
I have always used yellow with amber shellac, as well.

Here is a good link from the nice fellow at Velo Orange:
http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2006...basics_22.html
many thanks, looks like ill stick with yellow.

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That's interesting - what does the shellaced cloth bars feel like? Is it tacky to the touch or just like a hard shell?

How about cork wrap then cloth wrap and shellac? Any reason that can't be done?
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I'd go with the Brooks leather bar tape in Honey. That would be the perfect match. It's kind of spendy, but it's really nice. I'm hoping they might make some in british racing green to match my B17 champion special.
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Originally Posted by modernjess
I'd go with the Brooks leather bar tape in Honey. That would be the perfect match. It's kind of spendy, but it's really nice. I'm hoping they might make some in british racing green to match my B17 champion special.

I was thinking at one time of using tennis raquet leather tape but its too short and didnt want to use 3- 4 rolls to do my bars.

the brooks is probably the same on the short side"John" and its way too pricey to use 3 or 4 rolls per bar.

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Originally Posted by JOHN J
the brooks is probably the same on the short side"John" and its way too pricey to use 3 or 4 rolls per bar.
Huh? The Brooks bar tape comes in pretty standard sized rolls. One roll should be enough for one side of regular width bars, not 3-4 rolls worth.

Yellow cloth tape with amber shellac is really the best way to do it. Orange ends up with a reddish (orange) tint.

The Velo Orange elk hide bar tape makes a very nice honey color, plus a different smooth feel than wrapped cork or leather tape. It does require some DIY effort to stitch, but it's not hard.
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Originally Posted by dalmore
That's interesting - what does the shellaced cloth bars feel like? Is it tacky to the touch or just like a hard shell?

How about cork wrap then cloth wrap and shellac? Any reason that can't be done?
Shellac feels pretty hard. It looks slick or tacky but it really isn't once it dries.

Yea, you can shellac cork tape. I believe the owner of this bike is a BF member...
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc...llins1206.html

I think cloth tape looks a lot better than shellacked cork but that's just my opinion.
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Well, yellow is a faster color than amber, so I'd go with that. I mean, it's all about speed, right?
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I have heard unpleasant things about the look of aged Brooks leather bar tape, but I have no direct experience. Has anyone ridden it long enough to see how it holds up? Another interesting (and much cheaper) option is this (again from Velo Orange):

It comes in a range of colors, as well. Link:
http://www.velo-orange.com/elsebarco.html
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[QUOTE=GTcommuter]Huh? The Brooks bar tape comes in pretty standard sized rolls. One roll should be enough for one side of regular width bars, not 3-4 rolls worth.

I meant 3 - 4 rolls per whole bar (both sides).

Ive used cloth tape before and Like it but none of My LBS have it and I dont need any other stuff so Internet order is out.

getting back to the roll length I need 4 rolls of cloth to do my 48cm noodle bars.

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Originally Posted by JustBrowsing
Well, yellow is a faster color than amber, so I'd go with that. I mean, it's all about speed, right?

Huh?? I meant what would be qucker to get the color right (less coats of shellack)

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I posted photos of several different colors & brands of cork bar tape with bullseye shellac but it may have been lost in the server crash. The closest match to the honey Brooks was with yellow Cinelli cork tape and 3 or 4 coats of amber shellac. Torelli orange cork tape with amber shellac was also a close match but somewhat darker. Haven't found anything yet that comes close to the Brooks dark green or Maroon saddles though. If I can find the old photos, I will repost them here.

edit: here are the pics, Cinelli yellow cork tape first, Torelli orange cork tape 2nd. I like the way the 4th & 5th examples turned out. This was Cinelli cork tape in a hot pink (or magenta?) & after several coats of amber shellac, you get a warm red. The tape on the Austro Daimler was old & worn but after I cleaned it up & added 3 coats of shellac it was rejuvenated. The shellaced tape is a bit slick when wet with the exception of the Cinelli tricolor, world champ tape on the Titan. It has a texture no longer found on Cinelli tape, & isnt slick when wet. I got it on e-Bay from Jones Bikes. The last pic is what you get with amber shellac over black & white tape, not so hot but looks ok on an orange bike! Don
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I recently bought yellow cloth tape from Hiawatha, then borrowed a buddy's amber bullseye. In three coats, the color match is almost perfect with my honey team pro. I'm not sold on the seat yet and less so on the tape. It looks dope but the tape is very slippery. It has almost no shock absorption but it's the slickness that's really annoying. Wrapping cloth tape is like washing a cat. It's a fun project to shellac the bars though. I did a twine wrap at the stem and shellaced everything. Having such a slippery surface makes bar angles more critical for me (I had to rotate the bars toward me to have the tops horizontal adn the drops - Nitto Noodles - angled closer to the rear axle.
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I used Soma thick and zesty beige wrap and shellacked it w/ amber shellac. Not exactly the same shade as the Brooks, but close enough to look good IMO.

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Originally Posted by doppiodan
It has almost no shock absorption but it's the slickness that's really annoying.
yeppers cloth tape has no cushion, what I do is use a cork or foam tape then wrap over that with cloth.


as for shellack being slippery well it starts off that way when you first put it on but then it wears and is quite comfortable.

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Originally Posted by barba
I have heard unpleasant things about the look of aged Brooks leather bar tape, but I have no direct experience. Has anyone ridden it long enough to see how it holds up? Another interesting (and much cheaper) option is this (again from Velo Orange):

It comes in a range of colors, as well. Link:
http://www.velo-orange.com/elsebarco.html
Anyone use this stuff before? Seems like an interesting alternative...
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