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Old 07-02-07, 08:50 PM
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Well, I guess I need water proof panniers.

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Old 07-02-07, 08:57 PM
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saran wrap and trash bags inside the panniers.

duct tape lining.
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Spacebag/ziplocks do wonders. I have waterproof covers for my arkels but never use them because everything that is important is in spacebags or ziplocks and the arkels themselves will dry out really fast.
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Save up for Ortleib. Nothing compares.

https://www.thetouringstore.com/ORTLI...OME%20PAGE.htm
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I agree with the post about putting all contents in ziplock or other bags. This has saved me many times. But, just yesterday, I ordered the Nashbar Waterproof Panniers. They are pretty big, and were 50% off ($49.99). My other pair of Panniers are Nashbar, and I have been using them for about 16 years with no problems.
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Originally Posted by Makoa
I agree with the post about putting all contents in ziplock or other bags. This has saved me many times. But, just yesterday, I ordered the Nashbar Waterproof Panniers. They are pretty big, and were 50% off ($49.99). My other pair of Panniers are Nashbar, and I have been using them for about 16 years with no problems.
I think you'll find that the quality has gone dramatically. They attach with just two flimsy hooks and a very cheap bunji cord.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
I think you'll find that the quality has gone dramatically. They attach with just two flimsy hooks and a very cheap bunji cord.
Oh. I guess you get what you pay for. Oh well, I won't hesitate to send them back if that is the case. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by Makoa
Oh. I guess you get what you pay for. Oh well, I won't hesitate to send them back if that is the case. Thanks for the info.
I can give you a heads up about those panniers because I bought a pair last year. As stated the bunji is chintzy but it does hold, I've never had one fall off. I've commuted in some torrential downpours & everything always stayed as dry as I originally packed them, never a drop of rain inside the panniers.

As roomy as the panniers are do not plan on packing more than 6-7 pounds or so or the cheap rivets & I do mean CHEAP rivets that hold the hooks onto the plastic/nylon? backing will break off. I read about that in an other review so I was prepared, got mine half off through Nashbars "returned goods" sale.

I went down to Home Depot and bought a packet of small screws and lock washers, you'll need 4 for each pannier about 5/8 th in size. I tore the hooks off, they come off real easy, too easy. From there I just replaced the chintzy rivets with the lock nuts and screws and the panniers are a hundred times sturdier than new.

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Any leads on a decent waterproof rack bag? There's the Arkel Tailrider, but what else is available?
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Originally Posted by jeff-o
Any leads on a decent waterproof rack bag? There's the Arkel Tailrider, but what else is available?
Ortleib bike box. There are several to choose from.

https://www.ortleib.com/_prod.php?lan...odukt=bikebox3
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Get a rain cover for your current bag. Inexpensive, effective and light.
Ofcourse Ortleib panniers are excellent and worth the money, but they are expensive.

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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Save up for Ortleib. Nothing compares.

https://www.thetouringstore.com/ORTLI...OME%20PAGE.htm
Amen, if you look them up in the Touring forum there are stories about people using their Ortleibs as water sacks (as in, filling them with water) when they can't camp close enough to water to filter and use at the source.
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I use dry bags made for kayaking in my pack and trunk bag. I get caught in downpours all the time and nothing important has ever gotten wet. They are really durable.
I imagine they would also work as a form of life preserver if I ever get knocked into the river from the stupid bridge I have to cross on my commute.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse

I got caught in the rain this evening. It was the classic monsoon rain.
Thunda!! Whitning! Wind Fwom Awww Diwections!@

Anyhow, when I got home, my panniers had 2 inches of water INSIDE them.

So, I need large waterproof panniers. Price is an object unfortunately.
Suggestions?

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Is price a 2 figure object? A pair of ortliebs can be had for closer to $100 than $200, though probably not closer to $50...
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Save up for Ortleib. Nothing compares.

https://www.thetouringstore.com/ORTLI...OME%20PAGE.htm
That's my plan. I don't quite need the panniers yet, but when I'm ready, I'm going with Ortlieb.

A suggestion for now....buy a $7 can of scotchguard at the grocery store and scotchguard the bejesus out of those panniers. I don't know if it will waterproof them from a monsoon like that, but should at least reduce the damage done.

May also be worth carrying trashbags or grocery bags (depending on the size of your panniers) to try to cover them if that happens again.
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I have panniers on the old commuter and use a backpack when I take the roadie. On both of these I've gone out to a outdoor supply store and bought some water proofing spray for it. If you get them real good it does a nice job. Just in case, I wrap my clothes in several plastic bags so they stay dry from any water that seeps in.

That's one way to do it if you're operating on the cheap like me
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Sea-to-Summit makes really nice Sil-nylon drybags. They're lightweight, and have a rolltop waterproof closure because they're designed as kayak/boat bags. Seattle Venture Sports makes vinyl drybags which are cheaper and heavier, but sturdier. Unfortunately they're also prone to damage in very low freezing temperatures.

If you're handy with a sewing machine, you can make a pair of fitted drybag liners for your panniers in one evening. Sil-nylon, side-release buckles, and seam sealant can be found online for reasonably cheap.
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I bought a cheapy set of Axiom Appalachian bags for $29. As I do with all my outdoor gear from camping to shoes and coats, I spray them liberally with water proofing spray before use, and yearly there after. It works wonders. I was caught in a 20 minute torrential downpoor. My shoes filled up with water since the socks were wicking in the water, but the gear in my bags stayed absolutely perfectly dry.

Happy riding,
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+1 for the garbage bags and string.
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Ziplocks. I use them backpacking to keep gear and clothing organized and waterproof, and they work just as well on the bike as on my back They make really big zip bags nowadays!
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Every set of waterproof panniers I've ever seen are really heavy (of course, since I repurposed a dog pack for my bike, ALL panniers seem heavy to me).

I always keep a couple of 1-Gallon ziplock bags in my panniers. If it looks like rain, I can put everything into those. They are light weight and VERY waterproof.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Ortleib bike box. There are several to choose from.

https://www.ortleib.com/_prod.php?lan...odukt=bikebox3
Me likey! And cheaper than the Arkel. With a hard base, would all my stuff rattle around in there?
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
WOW!

20 something responses!
Thanks for the input!

The trash bag option will likely be the short term solution. It will work for the time
being but I transport a uniform that can NOT be wet along with paperwork, books
and the occasional electronic component.
The Ortleib bags are interesting (I need more research).
Boy that is expensive!

I'll be searching the forums for additional info
(or a link or 3 from the helpful bikeforum users?)

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Check out the touring forum for more info on Ortleib.

FWIW my wife and I both commute rain or shine, and we get very heavy downpours here in Riga. Never have our things gotten wet while using Ortleib panniers. They are amazing, and the hook system couldn't be better designed.

Call Wayne at The Touring Store if you have any questions about Ortleib products. He is very knowledgeable and a super nice guy. He'll answer any question you might have, no matter how strange!


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