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Old 07-09-07, 01:37 PM
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Buzzed by an angry car on my commute

I was commuting like I do every day today in downtown traffic. I normally keep up with traffic (20-25 mph) and share the road at times when necessary. Along the way, this one driver was trying to do 35 mph + and kept buzzing me closely as well as cutting me off after passing. I'd catch up to her at lights and little traffic jams. I really didn't think much of it until she passed me one more time closely and gave me the finger.

I got the plates and reported the incident to the PD, but of course, they couldn't do anything. They told me to call them within a minute of an incident in order for them to take action. As a result, their phone number is in my cell phone the next time something like this happens.
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Old 07-09-07, 01:38 PM
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It happens, I'd say just ignore them, unless by cut off, you mean moving in front of you and hitting the brakes, or if by buzzing close by, you mean under 6-10 inches.
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I'm curious whether you were in a bike lane or filtering?
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Old 07-09-07, 01:47 PM
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It is unfortunate that the police don't like to do anything about it. I'd think someone who is intentionally buzzing you is technically guilty of assault with a deadly weapon (battery too, if they hit you). If brandishing a conventional weapon is enough to get you jail time, why is swerving at someone in a 3,000 pound vehicle not worth pursuing? In reality, they're doing the same thing -- threatening you with something that can kill.

I know nothing will change, but it would be nice if the police actually enforced the assault statutes. If motorists realized that their aggression could have consequences, perhaps they would think twice before acting aggressively.
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Old 07-09-07, 01:50 PM
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It is unfortunate that the police don't like to do anything about it. I'd think someone who is intentionally buzzing you is technically guilty of assault with a deadly weapon (battery too, if they hit you). If brandishing a conventional weapon is enough to get you jail time, why is swerving at someone in a 3,000 pound vehicle not worth pursuing? In reality, they're doing the same thing -- threatening you with something that can kill.

I know nothing will change, but it would be nice if the police actually enforced the assault statutes. If motorists realized that their aggression could have consequences, perhaps they would think twice before acting aggressively.
I agree. It's like someone shooting at you from their car and missing. You call the police and they say...we really can't do anything until they hit you, but if they do hit you make sure you call.
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What?


That's assualt with a deadly weapon, my friend. If someone shoots at you, even with a BB gun, and misses. Assault. With a deadly weapon. Hah.
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I'm not sure it was 6 inches, but it did feel like it was in my "personal" space. After biking for a while, you get a feel for what that is.

I was filtering. There was no bike lane. Most people have no problem with this as long as you're not slowing them down, but this person was obviously speeding, and was probably pissed that a bicyclist was in their way.

The PD said that only if actual contact was made could they do anything further. I caught up with this person at a stoplight, and instead of yelling at her, I pointed to her license plate to make sure she knew this was going to be reported. I hope this makes her think twice next time.
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Originally Posted by snowranger
I was filtering. There was no bike lane. Most people have no problem with this as long as you're not slowing them down, but this person was obviously speeding, and was probably pissed that a bicyclist was in their way.
I filter pretty regularly, especially if I won't make it through in one cycle of the light. There are no bike lanes where I commute. I ask because many people say they refrain from filtering to keep drivers from having to pass them multiple times and getting pissed at them. Though I don't recall anyone ever getting aggressive with me because they had to pass me more than once. Maybe some have gotten irritated and just have been able to contain themselves? I don't know.
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I don't think many motorists have a problem with being passed and then passing later as long as you're not impeding their progress. If someone has an ego about having to be faster just because they are in a car, then I would try to stay the heck out of their way.
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After the first car passes too close I immediately move left to occupy more of the lane for a few hundred feet. Give me no room and I'll take it.
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I'm about to go completely psycho on the next person who honks or rev the engine at me. Some people are complete a$# hole when they're anonymous behind the steel and glass. I want to give 'em a blast of my pepper spray!
 
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Originally Posted by sdime
I'm about to go completely psycho on the next person who honks or rev the engine at me. Some people are complete a$# hole when they're anonymous behind the steel and glass. I want to give 'em a blast of my pepper spray!
Use brake fluid. It does a much better job of removing the paint from a car.
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^^ Indeed it does. Discreet too. But at the end of the day what good does it do? None, and your catharsis is short lived. Ignore it and move on, otherwise you're both the ******* in the equation with different conveyances.
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Old 07-09-07, 05:40 PM
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Hey I am new to bicycling for commuting, but I've got to tell you in life you should trust your instincts. I remember one time I was walking to my favorite hole the the wall, a rough place, and I saw a jeep with its headlights on in the parking lot. It was dark and the headlights blinding, and I had to cross its path. As I'm walking some part of my brain is saying "be ready if he accelerates". And you know what happened? I almost reached the building and he guns it, coming within inches of me, obviously drunk and trying to intimidate me. So anyway don't be afraid to look at a situation and say to yourself "what if?" or "be ready" is what I have learned.
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If someone in a car passes you more than a few times, maybe they should think about biking themselves...

I've had the same thing happen to me once, with a cab going down a street for about 2 or 3 miles that had lots of traffic lights. Narrow street, cars parked on both sides with two way traffic, he'd squeeze by, then I'd pass him at a light, he'd squeeze by and I'd pass and so on. After the lights ended, he buzzed me and honked.
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Mirrors tend to break off easily. Sends a message and gives you 6-8" more space!
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That sucks but ya know some people are just angry drivers. They will endanger their whole family by driving recklessly on the highway, buzzing a cyclist probably doesn't even faze their moral responsiblity. The best thing you can do is just blow it off if they didn't hit you.
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Originally Posted by sdime
I'm about to go completely psycho on the next person who honks or rev the engine at me. Some people are complete a$# hole when they're anonymous behind the steel and glass. I want to give 'em a blast of my pepper spray!
Don't misinterpret the engine revving. There are reasons that might have nothing to do with you.
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Originally Posted by 1ply
Use brake fluid. It does a much better job of removing the paint from a car.
Does that really work? Have you tested it?
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
Mirrors tend to break off easily. Sends a message and gives you 6-8" more space!
Hehe

Instead of physical damage, which can quickly escalate out of control. Psyching them out is much more fun. I pull out my phone/camera, start clicking pics of their plate, stare into their backseat like your scoping out what to steal later. Placing your hands and face against their rear side windows always make them think their dealing with a whacko. And once you convince them your crazed, no one wants to mess with you
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Originally Posted by Brianwh
Does that really work? Have you tested it?
If by "tested it" you mean allowed a tiny droplet to touch the fender of my car for half a second, then yes, I have tested it. That spot developed a haziness from then on. Worse was a floor jack that I stored with a leaky bottle of brake fluid (why I was keeping an open bottle of brake fluid is anyone's guess). The paint bubbled up, and looked like it wanted to drip right off.

I hate brake fluid. I hate the way it feels on my hands, I hate the way it smells. I hate everything about the vile, disgusting stuff.


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That's a very good idea.

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Instead of physical damage, which can quickly escalate out of control. Psyching them out is much more fun. I pull out my phone/camera, start clicking pics of their plate, stare into their backseat like your scoping out what to steal later. Placing your hands and face against their rear side windows always make them think their dealing with a whacko. And once you convince them your crazed, no one wants to mess with you
 
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Originally Posted by Brianwh
Does that really work? Have you tested it?
No it doesn't work. I've tried it, not on purpose though. I overpoured brake fluid, and it got all over the side of the engine compartment and that firewall. I do not see any paint come off.
 
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Originally Posted by shumacher
I hate brake fluid. I hate the way it feels on my hands, I hate the way it smells. I hate everything about the vile, disgusting stuff.
You shouldn't let brake fluid touch anything, especially your hands, except for its intended use, inside a brake system.
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Brake fluid takes some time, but it most definitely does work. My boss seen me inadvertantly dribble a little on a car bumper and flipped out. As long as you get it with windex immediatley usually cool though. If the over coat is thinned then it'll mess it up real quick. You can put it in a squirt gun and everyone thinks its water, things I did when I was immature. I'd go for moving elbows out to catch a mirror, then make a police report go to the hospitol and make them pay for the jersey they ruined also. Took off a mirror once when I was walking, doesn't hurt to much, and if your lucky it'll smash thier window too. Don't know if that'd be assault, most definetly failure to yeild, maybe careless or reckless driving though. Make sure not to reach out and hit with fist, unless signaling, or you might get the ticket.
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