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Old 07-12-07, 12:18 PM
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Bike Lane To Go

I saw this on commutebybike and think it's a great idea. It's basically a bike lane that follows your bike which hopefully lets motorists know how far to keep away from you. From the looks of it, it just shoots out a long beam of light onto the street to simulate a bike lane. I wonder how well this would work in the day time with full sun.

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Old 07-12-07, 01:03 PM
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I.... want.... one....

I hope that guy has patented this, he's going to get rich

Although for me two feet isn't enough space to protect you from a cager who thinks they can hug their wheel on that line. And we all know they're out there. I'd make it three feet, and it would also be useful if there were lasers on both sides.
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Very cool idea. I'm curious about the size of this contraption, though.
Why is it so huge? (large metal stanchions)
What's the functionality of that rear part? (is it just a tail light?)

I think a smaller unit which attached to the bottom of the chainstay would sell better.
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Originally Posted by threephi
I.... want.... one....
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...Although for me two feet isn't enough space to protect you from a cager who thinks they can hug their wheel on that line. And we all know they're out there. I'd make it three feet, and it would also be useful if there were lasers on both sides.
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Looks like it needs a lot of power. The one at the back of the wheel looks like a battery pack. It may be better to be dynamo powered since you need it while you are moving anyway.
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Doesn't look like 2 feet to me, and even if it is, 2 feet isn't enough. I only get passed that close maybe once a year.
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Old 07-12-07, 02:57 PM
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According to here:

The Sideline prototype operates on a 3.0 volt pile lithium battery, commonly used in cameras, and an LED bulb. The body is fabricated from a single piece of .125 aluminum and contains both the lane pod and LED taillight, which are injection-molded out of high impact polystyrene. The small parts are all replaceable in the event of damage and the entire product looks very sleek.
Most guidelines say 3' is the recommended minimum passing distance, greater above car speeds of 45 MPH.
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Very cool idea!!
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OMG, why didn't i think of that?! that's simply brilliant!
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Sweet! Crank that thing out to 3' like it's supposed to be and I'll be all over it
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very cool!
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That guy looks really goofy.
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It should be designed to permanently blind drivers who pass too closely.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
OMG, why didn't i think of that?! that's simply brilliant!
It's a great idea , and I WANT ! AS WELL

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yeah, but if you blind them, animals including drivers, they will go towards the light, not away from it.
(only applies if you have a drivers license) Didn't they teach you not to use highbeams when you can see any light at all?

But if I can get one of these, I would. Really cool. :-D
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I saw this on Commute By Bike as well. I'm not impressed. A simple, 10 dollar Flash Flag works MUCH better to keep motorists away. I will admit that it's a very neat piece of design, but it's not going to work. People respect a physical barrier more than a light---and that's assuming people are paying attention to a faint red light two feet to the left of a bicyclist. Much better to have a flapping blaze orange flag that might scratch their car if they get too close.
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I saw this on Commute By Bike as well. I'm not impressed. A simple, 10 dollar Flash Flag works MUCH better to keep motorists away. I will admit that it's a very neat piece of design, but it's not going to work. People respect a physical barrier more than a light---and that's assuming people are paying attention to a faint red light two feet to the left of a bicyclist. Much better to have a flapping blaze orange flag that might scratch their car if they get too close.
Sure, but using a Flash Flag is like trying to ride while dragging a parachute.

I think the SideLine is an ingenious idea. As already mentioned, I have to wonder how visible it is during daylight hours.
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I'd have to see it to believe it's going to work. You'd have to use an HID to make it visible in the daylight. Maybe that might not even work.

It's pointed at asphalt, which only reflects at best maybe 20% of the light that hits it.

An "LED Bulb" as they say might work in the pitch black, but I doubt it would be highly visible even under streetlights, let alone daylight. I think the photos they have there are clearly photoshopped.
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Originally Posted by MMACH 5
Sure, but using a Flash Flag is like trying to ride while dragging a parachute.

I think the SideLine is an ingenious idea. As already mentioned, I have to wonder how visible it is during daylight hours.
Like most light sources, that line will most likely be diffused during the day time. But then again most cyclists are already very visibly during the day. It will probably be most helpful at night when visibility is much less and drivers are more likely to notice that red line on the road warning them about the cyclist in front of them.
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Originally Posted by MMACH 5
Sure, but using a Flash Flag is like trying to ride while dragging a parachute.

I think the SideLine is an ingenious idea. As already mentioned, I have to wonder how visible it is during daylight hours.
MMACH5 if you wanna see someone dragging a parachute wait till I start riding past your work on royal next month. Arkel T42s stick out about 9" when filled for my commute. People do give me room with em, and don't when I leave em home.

It's a great idea and I might pick one up along with a flash flag if the price was reasonable. Pile on the weight and wind resistance just burns more calories
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[QUOTE=MMACH 5]Sure, but using a Flash Flag is like trying to ride while dragging a parachute.



I don't think so. This is the "commuting" forum, right? This is where we wear helmets with visors, and ride bikes with fenders and panniers. A dinky little spring mounted flag isn't gonna make a difference. I appreciate the brainpower and design of the Sideline, but an 18 inch long piece of PVC wrapped in reflective tape and bedecked with LEDs mounted to the left chainstay would work better. People aren't going to respect a red light on the road---but they will respect something that might scratch the car.
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Originally Posted by Schwinnrider
I don't think so. This is the "commuting" forum, right? This is where we wear helmets with visors, and ride bikes with fenders and panniers.
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This is true. But I would think we still try to trim weight and wind drag, where possible.

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but an 18 inch long piece of PVC wrapped in reflective tape and bedecked with LEDs mounted to the left chainstay would work better. People aren't going to respect a red light on the road---but they will respect something that might scratch the car.
Have you patented this idea? You'd very likely have some takers here.
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I applaud the ingenuity, but I don't think it'll be very effective for several reasons:

Headlights will drown out the red light in the dark. Bright sun will overpower it during the day. Motorists overtaking you will only see a very small spot because of the angle that they're seeing it.

The law in Florida is for 3 feet of clearance, not just 3 feet from the centerline of the cyclist, btw.

I'd rather use a flag mast, sideways, attached to an automotive electrical coil. Hit 'em with 40,000 volts & fry the electronics in their car....
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Originally Posted by mtnwalker
Like most light sources, that line will most likely be diffused during the day time. But then again most cyclists are already very visibly during the day. It will probably be most helpful at night when visibility is much less and drivers are more likely to notice that red line on the road warning them about the cyclist in front of them.

Will it show up at night? Yes. But a cyclist would be better served with a reflective vest and some bright blinkies.
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