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Old 07-14-07, 07:44 AM
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Double leg kickstand

Hello all,

I'm thinking of picking up a double-leg kickstand because I'm tired of balancing my bike while mounting my panniers. Right now I ride with: (1) Arkel bug, mounted rider's left (2) Arkel briefcase mounted riders right and (3) A ghetto bag I put on the top of the rack (lunch). Normally I'm loaded with my laptop and some files in the briefcase (~20-25 lbs) and the bug is my clothing/raingear/lights/toolbox at ~10-20 lbs, so I may run some different weights in each side. Sometimes I skip the bug for quick coffeehouse trips. All this on an old large Rockhopper frame (~1992). I don't use front panniers and have fenders installed (if it makes a difference).

I did a board search and found some old posts that definitely leaned toward the ESGE 2-leg kickstand. I was wondering if there's anything new out there that people love.

I want something that I can throw down and will stabilize my ride with possibly 15-20 pounds of asymmetric loading. I'm tired of the instability/balance game I'm presently playing while I adjust rain gear, add lights, etc.

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Old 07-14-07, 08:13 AM
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I hear that, but wouldn't mind going one further, and buying one similar to:



Here's a monster.

An insanely priced little alloy job.

Sheldon's offering.

$44.00 unit... ...and another. Seems to be the going price!

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Old 07-14-07, 08:18 AM
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That's some great work! Any experience with these? That last "sheldon's offering" is the one that had prior posts, some complained about incompatibility.
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Don't own any of them, but do want a couple. The normal type would probably suit me, and I'm sure I could make it work, but I'd hate to pay $40+ dollars for an item I have to modify. I'll be keeping my eye out for a cheaper version...

Edit: Cool UNICO ESGE images, offered by LEXCO dealers.

Just called my "Local Dealer" to get a price. He looked it up in his book and said, "Holy crap!" I asked, "What, about $40.00?" He said, "Yeah, $44.00, that's a lot for a kickstand." I had to agree, and thanked him for his trouble. Not sure I'll ever own one of those buggers now!

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Old 07-14-07, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ornery
I hear that, but wouldn't mind going one further, and buying one similar to...

What brand/model of bike is that?
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Old 07-14-07, 11:07 AM
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Kinda wondering what it would cost to ship here...
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Old 07-14-07, 11:12 AM
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There's a Hebie stand that looks nice. Don't know how much it is but my LBS has some. I'll be looking for one once I get my touring bike

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Old 07-14-07, 11:27 AM
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I also have the Hebie two-legged stand. Need to have one when you use a Bob Yak.
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I wonder why no one makes cheap roadster-style bikes in America (or imports them), like they do in the Netherlands. I'm sure I'd own a few...
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I find it ironic that the man who practically wiped "commuter style bikes" off the face of the US, was the one to bring them back... not cheap by any means!

Reminds me of Chrysler being the first to completely abandon RWD cars, then being the first to revive them two decades later!
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http://www.dutchbikes.us/
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Those guys are in Florida. They can get you bikes or parts. Pricey though.
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Thanks Allen, that's bookmarked!

Thank you too Donna, also bookmarked.

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No prob. There is another Dutch bike dealer in Portland, I can't find the url with a quick search. Donna lives within a mile or so of the Portland dealer though, she knows.
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No prob. There is another Dutch bike dealer in Portland, I can't find the url with a quick search. Donna lives within a mile or so of the Portland dealer though, she knows.
For all of the LBSes in Portland, I had never been in one before that I truly felt "at home" in like so many BF members describe. Not even the LBS who sold me my Breezer. Now I have one.
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One caveat I've heard with double kickstands is that they can be pretty unstable on terrain that's not smooth or flat.
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Originally Posted by Ornery
Yes, I have used those types of kickstands for many years. They are WONDERFUL. They are absolutely the best kind of stand for folks who load up their bicycles with lots of heavy stuff.

However, they are heavy and then look a little geaky.

$44.00 seems expensive. I bought some in Japan last year (which is an expensive place), for about $15.00 each.
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That Pashley- Moulton is HOT!!!!!!!

Scorchin!!!

Mrreeow!

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Bek, time you made another trip south and visit Clever Cycles...
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headed that way in October, most likely. Still good weather for riding to the Rose City.

As if I really need another bike!

but that Pashley is honestly making me swoon....

back on topic, the ESGE-Pfletcher two legged kickstand is solid, reliable, and catches the eye of other bicyclists when deployed - even had a young, downhilling BMX'er type at the bike shop calling it 'Rad' today (I rode the heavy tourer to work, had to stop at the farmers' market on the way to pick up veggies...)

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Old 07-15-07, 08:11 AM
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However, they are heavy and then look a little geaky.

Um, have you seen what I use for "panniers"?
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I see you have a Breezer, Ornery. I do, too. If you check out your owner's manual, you will see that it specifically recommends the ESGE/Pletcher double-legged kickstand as a replacement for the stock kickstand on Breezer bikes for those of us who carry heavy loads. That's a good indication to me that it will fit well on our bikes.

I see that Alfred E. Bike is carrying it for just under $40.
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You're an angel, but I can't throw that kind of money at these bikes for something I don't truly need. As you know, I already paid a pretty penny for this substitute of the Raleigh Sports I really wanted. I'll cough up $20, but that's about it. Thank you very much, though!
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Old 07-15-07, 06:23 PM
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Thanks everyone. I absolutely need double leg for the loading. Looks like I'll be getting a ESGE.
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i have two of the ESGEs on two different bikes,LOVE them bike never falls over great fot changing a flat
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I have the Pletscher double leg kickstand on my touring/commuter. I too ride with the Arkel Briefcase on one side, and I have an Arkel T-42 Pannier on the other. The kickstand holds the bike stable when loading the panniers (although if they are heavily loaded, it is not super-stable), it folds easily and is not as heavy as some of the options out there.
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