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Old 07-20-07 | 09:12 AM
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Panaracer T-Serv

I am just about to buy a pair of these. I want either the 700x32 or 700x35. Can some one who has these tell me if the actual width measurment is larger or smaller than the listed size. Also, do you like yours?
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:08 AM
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I never measured mine but it flatted once or twice a week until I threw the tire in a corner of my garage.
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:14 AM
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sounds like data junkie has some more issues with his than mine - I use them for fire road touring and long hauls - they take to dirt and gravel roads like a pig to slop-
I like them very much. great rolling, flat resistant high pressure fat tires.

I roll the 700x35s. they measure about 37mm wide.
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:39 AM
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I think I may have had a bad tire.
Most people I have talked with love that tire.
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:40 AM
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I rode 25mm T-serv's for about a year. I had a few flats, nothing unusual I thought, and then a I got terrible rip in the sidewall rendering the front tire unusable. I ditched them and got some Conti Ultra Gatorskins after reading good reviews here and elsewhere.

So far no flats in 1200 miles, they are lighter, easier to mount, and they roll better and corner better than the T-servs ever did. They really are more like a traditional road tire which appeals to me, but may not to you.

I used to think the T-serv's were good when I had them on, but honestly I've had way better luck and performance from the Conti Ultra Gatorskins.
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:46 AM
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Ditto on the gatorskins comment. I love mine.
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Old 07-20-07 | 10:56 AM
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I've got the T-Servs in a 28, and they've been the best tire I've ever had. I think they're very similar to the Panaracer Pasela Tour Guard with the aramid (Kevlar) belt, and that tire is a tried and true classic. In fact, I think it's the same tread pattern, and I'd be interested to know what the difference is between the two if anyone knows. Anyway, ringing endorsement of the T-Serv.
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Old 07-20-07 | 11:45 AM
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The width measurement runs significantly smaller than the quoted size. I use T-serv's on my Surly LHT in 28-mm size. They're definately skinnier than other 28-mm tires I have used, but I have not measured them.

As for the tires - I love them. They are very flat resistant and long-wearing. I believe that they corner and ride a bit better than Conti Gatorskins, but there's really not a big difference between the two... unless it rains, then the T-servs are definately superior. Conti Gatorskins seem to roll a little faster... so if speed is a major consideration, I would go with those.
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Old 07-20-07 | 12:46 PM
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I've got the T-Servs in a 28, and they've been the best tire I've ever had. I think they're very similar to the Panaracer Pasela Tour Guard with the aramid (Kevlar) belt, and that tire is a tried and true classic. In fact, I think it's the same tread pattern, and I'd be interested to know what the difference is between the two if anyone knows. Anyway, ringing endorsement of the T-Serv.
I run the Pasela TG folding (in 26 size) -- agree, Panaracer makes great fast light-touring tires. Far as I know, I think the main difference between the T-Serv and Pasela is just sidewall toughness; could be wrong, but I think that's it -- T-Serv is a little tougher; it might have a different tread compound, not sure (as you say, the tread patterns are definitely the same). I take it they're basically two versions of the same tire, one (T-Serv) oriented toward heavy-duty messenger/urban slop, the other (Pasela) toward less rugged open-road light touring. Both are light, fast, and grippy.
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Old 07-20-07 | 02:37 PM
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I run the Pasela TG folding (in 26 size) -- agree, Panaracer makes great fast light-touring tires. Far as I know, I think the main difference between the T-Serv and Pasela is just sidewall toughness; could be wrong, but I think that's it -- T-Serv is a little tougher; it might have a different tread compound, not sure (as you say, the tread patterns are definitely the same). I take it they're basically two versions of the same tire, one (T-Serv) oriented toward heavy-duty messenger/urban slop, the other (Pasela) toward less rugged open-road light touring. Both are light, fast, and grippy.
Thanks for the info Badger. That makes a lot of sense -- if you were looking to make a tough tire for commuting and messenger, you would start out with a battle-tested classic like the Pasela and beef it up to stand up to the city streets.

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Old 07-20-07 | 03:42 PM
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I had some T-Servs too. I had two flats in almost one whole season. Decent, light weight tire, pretty fast. Replaced them with Marathon Pluses and have had no flats yet this year.
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Old 07-20-07 | 06:21 PM
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OK! I appreciate ALL the info, BUT.....what I realy want to know.....Can some one who has these tell me if the actual width measurment is larger or smaller than the listed size?

I need something in the 32-35 width range. Gatorskins are TOO skinny. I live in FL and sand is everywhere. It is like a beach ride when I go off of pavement/asphalt. I am not going to get off my bike and walk it if I can help it.

BTW the difference between T-Servs and Pasela is mostly rubber hardness. T-servs are softer rubber and do not give you the mileage. Paselas are harder and give higher mileage, less traction.

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" I use T-serv's on my Surly LHT in 28-mm size. They're definately skinnier than other 28-mm tires I have used, but I have not measured them."

Has anyone , measured a 32 or 35????
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Old 07-20-07 | 06:52 PM
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Old 07-20-07 | 11:10 PM
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the 35c measures out to 37. I actually measured mine this morning for you before I posted to this thread.
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Old 07-21-07 | 12:51 AM
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Thanks for the information Bekologist
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Old 07-21-07 | 08:02 AM
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I have 32-559 T-Servs. I just measured across using a digital caliper. Actual measurement was 29.49mm.
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Old 07-21-07 | 12:42 PM
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I have 32-622's and they are 31.26mm @ 90PSI on a 19mm rim. As Bekologist has said, "once you go fat, you'll never go back".
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