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San Rensho 08-01-07 03:50 PM

Get a brake, and learn to go around corners with the pedals spinning. Its really easy to get a pedal strike and go down on a fixie.

And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.

I love riding my fixie, on the track. I don't get riding a fixide on the street.

Jeronimo_ 08-01-07 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho (Post 4981634)
Its really easy to get a pedal strike and go down on a fixie.

For you, I'd wager that's 100% correct.

slvoid 08-01-07 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho (Post 4981634)
And yes, no brake is a hipster thing. Don't forget the checkerboard Vans, mens capri pants and mess bag.
.

They're not man capri's, they're manpris.
And it's not a purse, it's a european carry all!

aMull 08-01-07 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by SingingSabre (Post 4977021)
Your current stopping system is only that chain.

It's a very, very good idea to get a secondary stopping system.

Pretty much says it all. Having a brake is a must, fixed bike or not.

MrCjolsen 08-01-07 07:35 PM

If you have to ask, you need a brake.

Tabor 08-01-07 08:21 PM

1. I won't ride a brakeless fixie after my friend had his chain fail backpedaling down a hill (he had a front brake, thankfully).
2. In this litigious day and age why would you ever ride on the street without a brake? If you hit someone, whether or not it was your fault, you are looking to get sued.

Tabor 08-01-07 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho (Post 4981634)
I don't get riding a fixide on the street.

It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.

M_S 08-01-07 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jeronimo_ (Post 4981621)
They probably already told your mommy, even though you are probably older than they are. People who act knowledgeable on the internet crack me up. "I read somewhere..." (probably in some lame ragazine or written by some other 'net forum idiot) They need to just shut the hell up and ride.

You're just a regular old barrel of fun.

To the OP: Get some brake levers (yes, two, so you can get a flip flop hub) and two brakes to go with them. I agree with whoever said that they're practically worth it for the ability to ride on the brake hoods.

moxfyre 08-01-07 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by M_S (Post 4983641)
To the OP: Get some brake levers (yes, two, so you can get a flip flop hub) and two brakes to go with them. I agree with whoever said that they're practically worth it for the ability to ride on the brake hoods.

I have to admit that I personally *never* used the freewheel on my flip-flop hub. But when I eventually sold that fixie on craigslist (had to reduce my stable to 3 bikes due to moving to a smaller place :'(), I think I got a lot more interest and a higher price because it had two brakes and a flip-flop hub.

I had a previous fixie with only one brake, and I liked the two-brake version a lot better because of the hoods AND because the feeling of braking the rear wheel on a fixie is weirdly cool.

Seems like the consensus on this thread is:
* Get the brake(s). You'll be glad you have 'em when you occasionally NEED them.
* Having brakes available won't hinder you in using a fixie to strengthen your legs and improve your cadence
* The only reason not to have brakes is for style.

unkchunk 08-02-07 12:36 AM

I think a lot of people responding "get a brake" are making that recommendation based on the assumption that you are a relatively decent human being. Since none of us know you personally, that may not be valid. You could be a complete malignant schm*ck. In that case, I would pass on the whole front brake idea if I were you. First, your friends wouldn't think you were cool and second, being a Junior there is a very good chance that you haven't reproduced yet.

So to recap. If you are a decent person, get a front brake. If you are a malignant schm*ck, go without the front brake. Either way, go out and ride!

San Rensho 08-02-07 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by slvoid (Post 4982315)
They're not man capri's, they're manpris.
And it's not a purse, it's a european carry all!

:beer:

San Rensho 08-02-07 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Jeronimo_ (Post 4981764)
For you, I'd wager that's 100% correct.

Race you around a corner any day, you fixed, me road bike.

Cromulent 08-02-07 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Tequila Joe (Post 4976371)
.... and chics really dig scars

Right. Chics love guys that fall down a lot. ;) :D

Az B 08-02-07 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Tabor (Post 4983233)
It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.

I paid $10 for my front brake. How much is your life worth?

Wait, that was a little dramatic. How about, How much would you pay to avoid pain?

Az

moxfyre 08-02-07 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Tabor (Post 4983233)
It was pioneered by bicycle messengers. They put A LOT of miles on their bikes and don't get paid much. It was more cost effective to ride fixed gear bikes.

Yeah, riding a fixed gear on the street actually DOES make sense, though only in relatively flat areas in my opinion:
* the bike is mechanically simple, and thus cheap and reliable (no worries about derailers, shifters, freewheels, etc.)
* a fixed gear provides EXCELLENT traction feedback on slippery surfaces. I find that I cannot ride my thin-tire road bike on snow at all, and slick pavement is very tricky, but can handle them well with a fixie.
* in city traffic, you can speed up and slow down very smoothly just with your knees, so you're not always braking and then struggling to get up to speed again. And you can trackstand at stop signs and stoplights with just a bit of traffic.
* it's a lot of fun for many people!
* it's good for training to improve your cadence

So riding fixed on the street can actually be very practical I feel. So not having gears may be worth it. But not having a brake is very foolish.

donnamb 08-02-07 05:34 PM

My housemate's boyfriend is a bike messenger in Seattle. He and his buddies have a name for inexperienced FG riders who insist on having no brake - "The Jokers". It's not meant to be a compliment.

Tabor 08-02-07 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Az B (Post 4987000)
I paid $10 for my front brake. How much is your life worth?

If you read my posts I am clearly on the pro-brake side. :rolleyes:
I was merely explaining why fixed gear bikes are popular with bicycle messengers.

TrackGuy 08-02-07 07:05 PM

Get a brake and you won't have to worry about losing your stop stick. And tuck in your shoelaces.

NormanF 08-03-07 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by richmondracer (Post 4973973)
i just got my first fixie, a cayne uno and the only way my parents will let me ride it (i'm a junior in high school) is if i get a front brake installed. so my question is this: does it matter if it's there as long as i'm still using my feet to slow down and i don't use the break?

I'm building one and you should really have a front brake on the road. Having to be constantly vigilant takes all the fun out of fixed gear riding. In the velodrome, you dont need brakes because no one else can go faster than you and you can always slow the bike down to a stop. In the real world, that extra margin of safety doesn't exist. So yeah, put on a least a front brake on your bike. If you ride with with a flip flop hub and singlespeed on the other side, you'll need two brakes.

Sammyboy 08-03-07 03:25 AM

I've got a brake on my track bike, and two on the conversion I built. I can't think of any conceivable reason not to, other than looks. I love bare bars with no levers, but not enough to risk my stopping ability - I'd be riding around at 10 mph if I had not brakes. A cross-top lever or goldfinger gets close to the look without sacrificing the stopification.

acroy 08-03-07 06:18 AM

please
please
please
kill this thread...........

Jeronimo_ 08-03-07 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho (Post 4986789)
Race you around a corner any day, you fixed, me road bike.

Do you live in Southern California? I have a nice, twisty street circuit in mind and you can put your money where your mouth is.

Jeronimo_ 08-03-07 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by NormanF (Post 4992070)
Having to be constantly vigilant takes all the fun out of fixed gear riding.

So let me get this straight, you aren't constantly vigilant when riding on the street with your fixed gear bike that has brakes?

Please, don't kill this thread. It's only getting better.

zoltani 08-03-07 05:38 PM

Why does a conversation about fixies always turn into some kind of pissing contest between geared riders and fixie riders?

Get over yourselves!

San Rensho 08-04-07 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by zoltani (Post 4996844)
Why does a conversation about fixies always turn into some kind of pissing contest between geared riders and fixie riders?

Get over yourselves!

Hey, I ride fixed, but I do it on the track. I'm just trying to inject some reality into what riding fixed on the street is about, especially to warn a newbie asks about something as critical as brakes and pedal strikes. Just a foil to some in the hipster crowd that advocate no brakes.

Satyr 08-05-07 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by zoltani (Post 4996844)
Why does a conversation about fixies always turn into some kind of pissing contest between geared riders and fixie riders?

Get over yourselves!

I wouldn't consider it so much a pissing contest between people, but more akin to a situation where enviro-hippies are heckling shoppers at a mall.

Markok765 08-05-07 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Az B (Post 4987000)
I paid $10 for my front brake. How much is your life worth?

Wait, that was a little dramatic. How about, How much would you pay to avoid pain?

Az

I think the man should put discs on his fixie!

I've seen fixie MTB at the skate park.

CBBaron 08-06-07 09:26 AM

I know I'm late to this conversation but put a brake on the bike. You can stop faster and easier with a brake than you can with back pedaling alone.
The only reason not to have a brake is image.

As for pedal strikes in corners, it is possible with fixed gears, however track bikes (vs. converted road bikes) have higher bottom brackets, shorter crank arms and narrower Q-factors which all greatly increase the lean angle one can achieve in a corner without having pedal strike. So basically track bikes do not generally have a big problem with pedal strike.

Craig

Jeronimo_ 08-06-07 12:06 PM

And the hits keep coming.


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