Disturbing interview with DOT Secretary
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17 of Bikes Belong's 21 grants last year were for paths & trails.
Complete the Streets pushes for bike lanes.
The League awards "bike friendly community" status based on paths, lanes and separate facilites.
America Bikes favors separate facilites & trail networks.
Rails to Trails funds trails.
Interesting that the Department of Transportation Secretary sides with Critical Mass in believing that the bicycle's proper place is in the general mix of traffic and not segregated off on to a sketchy and haphazard infrastructure.
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Complete the Streets pushes for bike lanes.
The League awards "bike friendly community" status based on paths, lanes and separate facilites.
America Bikes favors separate facilites & trail networks.
Rails to Trails funds trails.
Interesting that the Department of Transportation Secretary sides with Critical Mass in believing that the bicycle's proper place is in the general mix of traffic and not segregated off on to a sketchy and haphazard infrastructure.
TCS
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hmmm this might just be semantics but a bike path is not the same thing as "bike lanes"... bike paths usually are localized and as such aren't really part of the infrastructure like a bike lane would be...
I would consider a bike path similar to a park where you can go to enjoy a leisurely ride.
I would consider a bike path similar to a park where you can go to enjoy a leisurely ride.
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The majority of Americans are ambivalent at best regarding bikes as a serious means of transport. It is an easy target as such. It is no suprise that the current administration would take this tack. Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq etc. they (the administration) are primarialy reactionary, more so than visionary. It take vision to see a future reality different that what exisits currently. The Bush administration has always been short on vision in my opinion and this type of behavior is just another example how politicians in general (Republican & Democratic) are sorely lacking in true leadership and measure thier success in terms of re-election only.
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It's simple really: Bicycle commuters tend to be either poor or liberal, not part of this administration's core constituency.
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MARY PETERS: Gwen, some of them are, but many of them are not. There are museums that are being built with that money, bike paths, trails, repairing lighthouses. Those are some of the kind of things that that money is being spent on, as opposed to our infrastructure."
"GWEN IFILL: Who is spending the money inappropriately?
MARY PETERS: Well, there's about probably some 10 percent to 20 percent of the current spending that is going to projects that really are not transportation, directly transportation-related. Some of that money is being spent on things, as I said earlier, like bike paths or trails. Some is being spent on museums, on restoring lighthouses, as I indicated."[/B]
"GWEN IFILL: Who is spending the money inappropriately?
MARY PETERS: Well, there's about probably some 10 percent to 20 percent of the current spending that is going to projects that really are not transportation, directly transportation-related. Some of that money is being spent on things, as I said earlier, like bike paths or trails. Some is being spent on museums, on restoring lighthouses, as I indicated."[/B]
What does she mean by "not transportation" or "directly transportation related" and where did she get the 10 to 20 pecent figure from? Most likely she pulled it out of thin air. What defines "transportation" related. If I was a commercial sea freight captain, I would view light houses or other aids to navigation absolutely transportation related. I doubt very seriously that any of the items she mentions even register into the high single digit percentages of our total transportation expenditures, I'm also pretty sure this Peters lady is quite aware of what the numbers are, she is engaging in the default behavior for any Bush administration official and that is to spin, spin, spin and try and put the blame on someone else or find some lame concocted strawman to point to, no matter how tenuous the actual facts of the matter have to reality
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Cato was bashing transit projects as soon as that bridge collapsed.
Bike facilities ease traffic for motorized traffic, are clearly a relevant use of gas tax $$.
Bike facilities ease traffic for motorized traffic, are clearly a relevant use of gas tax $$.
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From 1932, when Congress first enacted an excise tax on gasoline, until 1956, the proceeds of the gas tax went into general revenues, although the amount raised each year was used as an informal benchmark for Federal highway spending. The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 established the Highway Trust Fund and stipulated that 100% of the gas tax be deposited into the fund. From 1956 to 1982, the Highway Trust Fund was used solely to finance expenditures from the federal highway program.
Highway Trust Fund revenues were first allocated to mass transit in the Surface Transportation Act of 1982, when Congress raised the gas tax from four cents per gallon to nine cents per gallon and dedicated one cent, or 20 percent, of the increase to the newly-established Mass Transit Account. Each time there has been an increase in the amount of gas tax going into the Highway Trust Fund—1990, 1993 and 1997—20 percent of the increase has been allocated to the Transit Account and 80 percent to the Highway Account. Of the current gasoline tax of 18.3 cents per gallon, 2.86 cents per gallon is allocated to the Mass Transit Account.
Highway Trust Fund revenues were first allocated to mass transit in the Surface Transportation Act of 1982, when Congress raised the gas tax from four cents per gallon to nine cents per gallon and dedicated one cent, or 20 percent, of the increase to the newly-established Mass Transit Account. Each time there has been an increase in the amount of gas tax going into the Highway Trust Fund—1990, 1993 and 1997—20 percent of the increase has been allocated to the Transit Account and 80 percent to the Highway Account. Of the current gasoline tax of 18.3 cents per gallon, 2.86 cents per gallon is allocated to the Mass Transit Account.
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There is no hope.
Next, the govt. new way to treat alcoholism is to give an addict unlimited supplies of liquor
You will be taxed accordingly.
Next, the govt. new way to treat alcoholism is to give an addict unlimited supplies of liquor
You will be taxed accordingly.
Maybe you're refering to this......?
Actually there was a city that was doing just that; taking homeless acoholics off the streets and giving them free housing and a monetary allowance for booze, via tax payers' dime.
https://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/05/news/booze.php
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My response:
August 16, 2007
Dear Secretary Peters,
I would like to comment on your statement about bicycles not being
'transportation'
That does seem to be the prevailing attitude in this country,
unfortunately. Maybe that's why we have so much pollution and so many
traffic problems. Perhaps if more people would look into the usefulness
of bicycles as more than just 'toys' our cities would be a nicer place to
live. Let's not forget the obesity 'epidemic' that this country is
experiencing.
50% of all trips in cars in this country are less than three miles. That
distance is trivial for any person in even moderately good health. Those
miles are that much worse, because the cars barely have time to warm up...
and the catalytic converters never reach their proper operating
temperatures. Think how much less smog there would be if those cars were
left at home, and people walked or rode a bike down to the corner to pick
up cigarettes or soda.
Personally, I put over 10,000 miles on my bike in the last year... and 200
on my truck. Not all of those miles were transportation, but at least
half were. I rode my bike to and from work every day... half of the trip
on one of those bike paths that you claim don't serve for 'transportation'
We're blessed here in Denver to have a fairly extensive system of paths
and on-street bike routes, as well as a fairly bike-friendly culture. The
more extensive and better planned the paths, the more use they'll get for
transportation.
I work hard for my money, I pay my taxes. I pay WAY more than my fair
share of road maintenance expenses. I deserve to use those roads without
having to deal with the bad attitudes and misconceptions that statements
such as your's generate.
Sincerely,
Bill McLaughlin
Dear Secretary Peters,
I would like to comment on your statement about bicycles not being
'transportation'
That does seem to be the prevailing attitude in this country,
unfortunately. Maybe that's why we have so much pollution and so many
traffic problems. Perhaps if more people would look into the usefulness
of bicycles as more than just 'toys' our cities would be a nicer place to
live. Let's not forget the obesity 'epidemic' that this country is
experiencing.
50% of all trips in cars in this country are less than three miles. That
distance is trivial for any person in even moderately good health. Those
miles are that much worse, because the cars barely have time to warm up...
and the catalytic converters never reach their proper operating
temperatures. Think how much less smog there would be if those cars were
left at home, and people walked or rode a bike down to the corner to pick
up cigarettes or soda.
Personally, I put over 10,000 miles on my bike in the last year... and 200
on my truck. Not all of those miles were transportation, but at least
half were. I rode my bike to and from work every day... half of the trip
on one of those bike paths that you claim don't serve for 'transportation'
We're blessed here in Denver to have a fairly extensive system of paths
and on-street bike routes, as well as a fairly bike-friendly culture. The
more extensive and better planned the paths, the more use they'll get for
transportation.
I work hard for my money, I pay my taxes. I pay WAY more than my fair
share of road maintenance expenses. I deserve to use those roads without
having to deal with the bad attitudes and misconceptions that statements
such as your's generate.
Sincerely,
Bill McLaughlin
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Maybe you're refering to this......?
Actually there was a city that was doing just that; taking homeless acoholics off the streets and giving them free housing and a monetary allowance for booze, via tax payers' dime.
https://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/05/news/booze.php
Actually there was a city that was doing just that; taking homeless acoholics off the streets and giving them free housing and a monetary allowance for booze, via tax payers' dime.
https://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/05/news/booze.php
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Ok I’m not sure if her comments are being taken out of context but I think that people in the U.S. should understand that bicycles are becoming transportation more and more every day. I still have a gas vehicle to do certain jobs but I rely on my bike for my main transportation to and from work. To lessen my reliance on oil and for the benefit it has on my health. So far this year I have ridden 1200 miles, which may be very little compared to many commuters, and I have saved an average $40 per week plus an untold amount of greenhouse gases