Would you wear a motorcycle helmet?
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CF roll cage ftw.
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Too hot, too heavy, unable to hear as much, etc. I'll settle for a rounder-shaped bike helmet with rear coverage that's deeper than normal; usually MTB-marketed helmets fit this style.
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I don't buy the premise that bicycle helmets aren't effective in preventing most head injuries.
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Also takes away from your peripheral vision unless you wear a non full-face helmet.
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I recall reading a bit ago about some new material that absorbs impact in a special way... and that perhaps might be used for newer helmets... but that is for the future. The material is much thinner... perhaps coupled with a CF hardshell and the thinner material, helmets might be quite a radial departure from the mushroom head things we have today.
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Too hot, comparatively poor ventilation, potentially leading to heat injuries.
Too heavy, possibly contributing to neck and spinal injuries.
Reduced peripheral vision.
Reduced ability to hear, particularly from the rear.
More expensive.
No, I would not wear one. Not even if they were free.
The Bell Metro (Citi) fits this description. I have one and have to say that it's the first helmet I have had that I truly like. But truth be told, I usually only wear it at night (which is every commute to work) because it makes a convenient place to mount my helmet light and a tertiary taillight. Otherwise I wear a ballcap, depending on which style bike I'm on.
Too heavy, possibly contributing to neck and spinal injuries.
Reduced peripheral vision.
Reduced ability to hear, particularly from the rear.
More expensive.
No, I would not wear one. Not even if they were free.
The Bell Metro (Citi) fits this description. I have one and have to say that it's the first helmet I have had that I truly like. But truth be told, I usually only wear it at night (which is every commute to work) because it makes a convenient place to mount my helmet light and a tertiary taillight. Otherwise I wear a ballcap, depending on which style bike I'm on.
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I've got one of those, too. I also have a Giro Xen that I use most of the time; I've usually got the Metro with its rain cover snapped on.
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I wouldn't wear a motorcycle helmet, my neck would spasm in a couple of miles. I don't even wear a bicycle helmet all that often. I don't ride much faster than I can run and I use my brakes on hills when I get going too fast, unless I have a good surface and no traffic. I average 15 mph on most rides and that doesn't seem fast enough to make a helmet necessary. If I get hit by an auto I figure a helmet won't help much either way.
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A motorcycle helmet gets hot just standing still and I can barely stand my super vented Bell in the summer, this would be a bad idea.
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I wouldn't wear a motorcycle helmet, my neck would spasm in a couple of miles. I don't even wear a bicycle helmet all that often. I don't ride much faster than I can run and I use my brakes on hills when I get going too fast, unless I have a good surface and no traffic. I average 15 mph on most rides and that doesn't seem fast enough to make a helmet necessary. If I get hit by an auto I figure a helmet won't help much either way.
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Probably not. It'd look goofy for one, and it's way too bulky. Also would impare my vision somewhat, requiring mirrors and such. And yeah, sounds like I would generate a lot of sweat like many others have stated. Maybe you're asking to get in a crash, but I try my best to avoid them, so a normal bicycle helmet would be most efficient.
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hmmm
The one collision I had with a car and the couple near misses were when the auto was traveling at low speed (turning, pulling out, etc). Bike helmets are a good thing. Your head hitting the pavement at 15 mph is plenty fast enough to do serious damage. We had a friend who forgot her helmet one day when she took her bike to her favorite (paved) trails. She fell and hit her head. She was out cold. Doesn't even remember how she crashed. Ended up missing a couple of weeks of work and is very lucky she's not going to have permanent damage. My guess is that she was going < 15 mph.
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You would need the rest of the outfit to go with that one.
Imagine tights, cycling jersey, and a boba fett helmet.
One could alternate between Darth Vader as well.
Imagine tights, cycling jersey, and a boba fett helmet.
One could alternate between Darth Vader as well.
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No. The biggest helmet I might wear for bicycling would be a full face freeriding/downhill helmet. And I think that's overkill.
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1. Crashing a bike is NOT the same as tripping over a root
2. Anybody who AVERAGES 15 mph running down a bike lane for 7 MILES should be wearing a helmet too.
Most people I know are lucky to top 10 to 15 mph running, couldn't manage to sustain it for more than a few seconds and are on grass while they're doing it.
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I also had this in mind when I posted:
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-safety/369980-must-read.html
Mainly tells of how very experienced cyclists were hit by inattentive or drunk drivers. There was nothing they could to avoid the collisions and they mostly ended up dead or with massive head/neck/spine injuries. I'm thinking that even though there's nothing we could do to prevent being hit, there might be something we could do to minimize the injury.
But I think the consensus is clear. Motorcycle helmets in their current form would be too bulky and hot to wear on a consistent basis. What we really need is a much better cycling-oriented helmet, like the Giro Xen for example. From personal experience I've found skating helmets (pro-tec, triple 8, etc.) to be vastly superior to cycling helmets in minimizing head injury. I fell very badly many times while skating where the only part of my body not hurt was my head and neck. The difference is the very thick elastomeric padding inside skate helmets that absorb most of the impact. Contrast to cycling helmets that are rock hard (in order to support multiple vents) and transfer quite a bit of momentum to the head before crushing. Motorcycle helmets are more similar to skate helmets in this regard, with softer padding inside surrounded by a hard shell.
I think I'll probably end up going with the very best ventilated skate helmet I can find.
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-safety/369980-must-read.html
Mainly tells of how very experienced cyclists were hit by inattentive or drunk drivers. There was nothing they could to avoid the collisions and they mostly ended up dead or with massive head/neck/spine injuries. I'm thinking that even though there's nothing we could do to prevent being hit, there might be something we could do to minimize the injury.
But I think the consensus is clear. Motorcycle helmets in their current form would be too bulky and hot to wear on a consistent basis. What we really need is a much better cycling-oriented helmet, like the Giro Xen for example. From personal experience I've found skating helmets (pro-tec, triple 8, etc.) to be vastly superior to cycling helmets in minimizing head injury. I fell very badly many times while skating where the only part of my body not hurt was my head and neck. The difference is the very thick elastomeric padding inside skate helmets that absorb most of the impact. Contrast to cycling helmets that are rock hard (in order to support multiple vents) and transfer quite a bit of momentum to the head before crushing. Motorcycle helmets are more similar to skate helmets in this regard, with softer padding inside surrounded by a hard shell.
I think I'll probably end up going with the very best ventilated skate helmet I can find.
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I also had this in mind when I posted:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=369980
Mainly tells of how very experienced cyclists were hit by inattentive or drunk drivers. There was nothing they could to avoid the collisions and they mostly ended up dead or with massive head/neck/spine injuries. I'm thinking that even though there's nothing we could do to prevent being hit, there might be something we could do to minimize the injury.
But I think the consensus is clear. Motorcycle helmets in their current form would be too bulky and hot to wear on a consistent basis. What we really need is a much better cycling-oriented helmet, like the Giro Xen for example. From personal experience I've found skating helmets (pro-tec, triple 8, etc.) to be vastly superior to cycling helmets in minimizing head injury. I fell very badly many times while skating where the only part of my body not hurt was my head and neck. The difference is the very thick elastomeric padding inside skate helmets that absorb most of the impact. Contrast to cycling helmets that are rock hard (in order to support multiple vents) and transfer quite a bit of momentum to the head before crushing. Motorcycle helmets are more similar to skate helmets in this regard, with softer padding inside surrounded by a hard shell.
I think I'll probably end up going with the very best ventilated skate helmet I can find.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=369980
Mainly tells of how very experienced cyclists were hit by inattentive or drunk drivers. There was nothing they could to avoid the collisions and they mostly ended up dead or with massive head/neck/spine injuries. I'm thinking that even though there's nothing we could do to prevent being hit, there might be something we could do to minimize the injury.
But I think the consensus is clear. Motorcycle helmets in their current form would be too bulky and hot to wear on a consistent basis. What we really need is a much better cycling-oriented helmet, like the Giro Xen for example. From personal experience I've found skating helmets (pro-tec, triple 8, etc.) to be vastly superior to cycling helmets in minimizing head injury. I fell very badly many times while skating where the only part of my body not hurt was my head and neck. The difference is the very thick elastomeric padding inside skate helmets that absorb most of the impact. Contrast to cycling helmets that are rock hard (in order to support multiple vents) and transfer quite a bit of momentum to the head before crushing. Motorcycle helmets are more similar to skate helmets in this regard, with softer padding inside surrounded by a hard shell.
I think I'll probably end up going with the very best ventilated skate helmet I can find.
I have a Shoei RF1000 I wear when I ride my motorcycle but there is no way I'd be even remotely comfortable wearing it on a bicycle. I wore it once during a go-kart race and was sweating inside the helmet after just a few laps muscling a go-kart around the track (these karts do over 40 mph and have racing harnesses and helmets are mandatory). Not to mention this particular helmet costs $350...I can't imagine the smell inside after only a few rides. Also, the visor is prone to fogging in cooler air when you're not moving so if you were sweating inside it you'd probably always have problems with it fogging up.
I'll stick with my Bell Sweep R.
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I dunno about skate helmets, but moto helmets are NOT just "elastomeric padding" inside a hard shell. Between the foam rubber used for fit inside the helmet and the outer, hard layer, there's a layer of the same expanded foam that makes up bicycle helmets. This deforms when crashed and provides the bulk of impact absorbtion in the event of a motorcycle crash, not the soft foam used on the inside of the helmet for fit.
Everyone already mentioned the reasons, but tops for not using a moto helmet:
1. Heat (or in the Winter, fogging of full face shield)
2. Weight
3. Loss of peripheral vision
4. Loss of hearing
However. There's this padding used in some moto armor that is soft and pliable, but on impact, stiffens up. Not sure the impact absorbtion ability is to the point that it could be used in helmets, but I'd buy something with that stuff in it, that was certified to at least the same minimums as regular helmets, in the form of the old leather hairnets. Muy retro!
Everyone already mentioned the reasons, but tops for not using a moto helmet:
1. Heat (or in the Winter, fogging of full face shield)
2. Weight
3. Loss of peripheral vision
4. Loss of hearing
However. There's this padding used in some moto armor that is soft and pliable, but on impact, stiffens up. Not sure the impact absorbtion ability is to the point that it could be used in helmets, but I'd buy something with that stuff in it, that was certified to at least the same minimums as regular helmets, in the form of the old leather hairnets. Muy retro!
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no it wouldn't because you would not be able to breathe. Unless motorcycle helmets are more breathable than fullface bike helmets, i have to take mine off every couple of minutes to catch my breath