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AEO 09-28-08 10:16 PM

I was about to add my review of bebops, since I finally got some and got around to using them :p:innocent:

they're pretty good, just be sure you buy a can of dry ptfe/teflon lube so you can lube your cleats once a week.

you have to step in decently hard otherwise you might get only half the cleat in. It's dangerous to be clipped in half way only as you can accidentally pull out. You can tell if you're only half way in by rotating your foot. If it's smooth, then you are in, if you feel some resistance you are not.
that's about the only down side I could feel with them.
Otherwise I prefer these over crank brothers, speedplay frogs and shimano SPD.

IMO, best to worst for commuting purposes
Bebop
Shimano SPD, tie, crank brothers
speedplay frogs

here they are compared to crank brothers
Canadian Toonie pictured to illustrate size. Toonie is 28mm, or 1 1/8in" in diameter

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops01.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops02.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops03.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops04.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops05.jpg

paulwwalters 09-28-08 10:31 PM

What shoes do you have there? how much are they? they look less like soccer star shoes and more like something you'd wear normally.

And I may have been sold on Time ATACs.

AEO 09-28-08 10:34 PM

that shoe is a specialized tahoe. I had to cut down the inner sole a bit to allow the pedal spindle to clear the shoe.

I'd try Time ATACs too, but I'm loving the bebops too much to play around with another clipless pedal :p

maybe when they wear out...

AEO 09-28-08 10:42 PM

yeah, I wouldn't worry about 'breaking' crank brother pedals, especially the C and SL models.

they're pretty good, but the only issue that you might get is 'clicking' because of the poor manufacturing tolerances on the cheaper models.

RedC 10-26-08 07:40 PM

I'm using Nike MTB shoes with my Trek Navigator and I'm about to buy a road bike. Is there any reason I can't continue to use SPD s with my new bike? I have shimano 520's and I think I might like a little more float. Is there anyway I can use the same shoes and clips and get peddles with more float?

AEO 10-26-08 07:52 PM

yep, you can continue to use your spd pedals on a road bike, no problem with that.

The one major difference between road clipless and mtb clipless is that the road pedals offer a larger platform area so your feet don't get 'hot spots'.

bebops offer a nice, large cleat to pedal engagement platform and offer plenty of float.
next best thing would be crank brothers candy or smarty

BarracksSi 10-26-08 08:42 PM

AEO, nice pic of the Bebop cleat installed in the shoe --

How do they compare to CB when they get dirty?

AEO 10-26-08 09:22 PM

they seem to hold up fine in dirt, but I haven't tested them out in mud, wet gravel and the likes yet.

I didn't want to put my foot down in a pool of muddy water, or mud last Saturday in the rain when I was already miserable and wet :lol:

hopperja 12-23-08 10:08 PM

I once had SPD pedals on my mountainbike. They clogged with mud often, and then once on a frigid January day, the mud froze while I was clipped in. I came to a slow, controlled stop on a fire road, but I couldn't get unclipped.

This wouldn't have been too big of a problem, except that I was recovering from a knee dislocation. I happened to fall on that knee when I couldn't get unclipped.

I gave my SPDs away and switched to Eggbeaters. I've never had a problem with mud clogging since. I've got 8000+ miles on Eggbeaters and I've never once had a problem with them (I've had to regrease them once or twice). They work as they should every time. In my experience, they define reliability.

Anogar 12-24-08 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by hopperja (Post 8069628)
I once had SPD pedals on my mountainbike. They clogged with mud often, and then once on a frigid January day, the mud froze while I was clipped in. I came to a slow, controlled stop on a fire road, but I couldn't get unclipped.

This wouldn't have been too big of a problem, except that I was recovering from a knee dislocation. I happened to fall on that knee when I couldn't get unclipped.

I gave my SPDs away and switched to Eggbeaters. I've never had a problem with mud clogging since. I've got 8000+ miles on Eggbeaters and I've never once had a problem with them (I've had to regrease them once or twice). They work as they should every time. In my experience, they define reliability.

Other than the knee problem, this is exactly my story. I'm way happier with my Eggbeaters. 4 way clipping is great, mud / show / debris shedding is perfect, and if I walk around in mud for a while I can still clip in without any issues.

+1 for Eggbeaters. The Behops look interesting, but I'm not into having moving parts on my shoe, especially if you want to be able to run while wearing them. (Cyclocross and such.)

gcbbike 11-12-11 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by AEO (Post 7565379)
I was about to add my review of bebops, since I finally got some and got around to using them :p:innocent:

they're pretty good, just be sure you buy a can of dry ptfe/teflon lube so you can lube your cleats once a week.

you have to step in decently hard otherwise you might get only half the cleat in. It's dangerous to be clipped in half way only as you can accidentally pull out. You can tell if you're only half way in by rotating your foot. If it's smooth, then you are in, if you feel some resistance you are not.
that's about the only down side I could feel with them.
Otherwise I prefer these over crank brothers, speedplay frogs and shimano SPD.

IMO, best to worst for commuting purposes
Bebop
Shimano SPD, tie, crank brothers
speedplay frogs

here they are compared to crank brothers
Canadian Toonie pictured to illustrate size. Toonie is 28mm, or 1 1/8in" in diameter

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops01.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops02.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops03.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops04.jpg
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/bebops05.jpg

This thread needs pics back!

also, i'm between the Bebop, Atac, Candy.

care to elaborate why you find the bebop so much better, please?

I also use the bike for city commute, so i plan to walk around with the shoes. Did you take that into account? anyone else can trhow their opinions on walking with the different cleats?

Drew Eckhardt 11-12-11 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by gcbbike (Post 13485507)
This thread needs pics back!

also, i'm between the Bebop, Atac, Candy.

care to elaborate why you find the bebop so much better, please?

I also use the bike for city commute, so i plan to walk around with the shoes. Did you take that into account? anyone else can trhow their opinions on walking with the different cleats?

Genuine SPD cleats are short front to back and can be completely recessed in shoes.

Bebop cleats go around the pedal, are much longer, and hang out beyond where the shoe sole curves upward so they're not as walkable.

gcbbike 11-14-11 02:07 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianwi...n/photostream/

i got a pair of original bebops on ebay... $10 plus $11 for the rebuild kit.

now i have to decide if i waste $40 on the bebop cleats or buy a brand new candy with cleats for $39!

i may get both and experiment :(

Seattle Forrest 11-14-11 02:12 PM

I wish these comparisons listed the weight for the different pedals. It can't be any harder to find than the number of degrees of float ... and the whole list really isn't useful to me without it. :o


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