Stranger in a strange land?
04-02-08, 12:51 PM
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No specific story comes to mind, but I don't really notice much. I figure if people think I'm strange, then I'm probably on the right track.
To whit, I might respond in a couple of ways (depending upon how ornery I feel):
1. [pause to look them over] "So you're normal, huh? How's that workin' out for ya?"
2. "If you think I'm dressed like a clown, it's because so many of y'all drive like clowns."
To whit, I might respond in a couple of ways (depending upon how ornery I feel):
1. [pause to look them over] "So you're normal, huh? How's that workin' out for ya?"
2. "If you think I'm dressed like a clown, it's because so many of y'all drive like clowns."
I especially like #2 for all the "clowns" that call into radio shows or write into newspapers about how silly we look... no doubt they fail to realize that our looks are due to the need to get their attention.
04-02-08, 12:57 PM
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Getting stared at like you're from another planet? My wife and I get that a lot just being ourselves. 
04-02-08, 01:11 PM
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I felt like that when I lived in North Carolina. Like when I'd say no to bags and say I have my own, they think "what an idiot". Biking, people just thought I was poor or a drunk.
I moved to Portland, OR and it's a breath of fresh air. So many commuters, so many utility cyclist, so nice! Now I feel bad if I DON"T use my own bag.
I moved to Portland, OR and it's a breath of fresh air. So many commuters, so many utility cyclist, so nice! Now I feel bad if I DON"T use my own bag.
When living in Richmond VA, I often shopped by putting groceries in my shoulder bag, cleaning it out at the register, then put the stuff back in. Once I made the same mistake in Petersburg - the store manager approached me as I was shopping and said not to bring in a bag, because he could have me arrested for shoplifting!
04-02-08, 07:36 PM
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+1. In my area of Durham, I always get weird looks when I bring in bags.
When living in Richmond VA, I often shopped by putting groceries in my shoulder bag, cleaning it out at the register, then put the stuff back in. Once I made the same mistake in Petersburg - the store manager approached me as I was shopping and said not to bring in a bag, because he could have me arrested for shoplifting!
When living in Richmond VA, I often shopped by putting groceries in my shoulder bag, cleaning it out at the register, then put the stuff back in. Once I made the same mistake in Petersburg - the store manager approached me as I was shopping and said not to bring in a bag, because he could have me arrested for shoplifting!
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04-02-08, 07:54 PM
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Sorry, I don't grok it.
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04-02-08, 08:29 PM
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Actually, he absolutely can't. They have to observe you taking stuff, then you have to leave the property without paying for it. What he's actually saying there is that he doesn't want your business, and I'd have said so, dumped everything from my bag on the spot and not come back.
04-02-08, 09:32 PM
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Actually, I've found my local supermarket up here in LBB to be surprisingly supportive when I show up with my messenger bag or shopping bag. They'll even put my fish in a separate thermal bag I carry with a freezer pack. They never even bat an eye.
I did get a momentarily strange look from the sacker at the xtracycle I was riding that day. But he covered it up pretty quickly and just calmly handed me stuff from the cart so I could load it in the freeloaders.
I did get a momentarily strange look from the sacker at the xtracycle I was riding that day. But he covered it up pretty quickly and just calmly handed me stuff from the cart so I could load it in the freeloaders.
04-02-08, 09:52 PM
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One guy I knew, (sadly died recently
), would call me it all the time.Guy: "You look like a Christmas tree! hee hee"!
I replied quick as a flash: "Well you can be the fairy that sits on top!"
Cue awkward silence over the vaguely *****exual propostion I had just made
Me: "Erm that didn't really work did it?"
I get on bike and peddle off.
My other standard reply to people is: "I know I look a **** but at least I'm alive"
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04-02-08, 10:02 PM
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Most places around here give you a nickel for every bag you don't use. More people than bicyclists take advantage of this.
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04-02-08, 10:17 PM
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There's been a couple of quick grocery runs to the nearby Safeway when I've not bothered to take the bags off the bike. Just run the whole bike inside, stuff a couple of gallons of milk, fruit, etc in the panniers and take it through the express checkout. Don't remember any overly odd looks, but my forgettory is legendary. Maybe I'll have to try harder.
04-03-08, 05:31 AM
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All the stores up here have reusable bags.
Tellers are all the same. I show them my backpack and ask for no bag. I've learned to slightly raise my voice so they comprehend otherwise I end up standing there with a plastic bag I have to unpack into my backpack.
The plastic gets recycled though. It's used for cleaning out the cat's litter box. So while I'm all for the reusable bags I still ask for plastic when I'm running low.
Tellers are all the same. I show them my backpack and ask for no bag. I've learned to slightly raise my voice so they comprehend otherwise I end up standing there with a plastic bag I have to unpack into my backpack.
The plastic gets recycled though. It's used for cleaning out the cat's litter box. So while I'm all for the reusable bags I still ask for plastic when I'm running low.
04-03-08, 06:34 AM
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I sometimes stop at the bank (which is inside the supermarket) to cash my check. I get a few stares from customers and store employees. Occasionally the teller can tell I'm a cyclist by my attire. S/he says something like, "I should start exercising..."
I tell them how much fun cycling is, etc. They reply with comments about the heat, the cold, sweating, no place safe to ride, etc.
The next time they see me there's no mention of cycling or exercising.
Yesterday I had this conversation.
store clerk: Wow. You sure have big calves. You must work out a lot.
me: No, not at all. I'm a cyclist. I ride my bike to work and on errands and on the weekend.
store clerk: * blank stare *
S/he says something like, "I should start exercising..."I tell them how much fun cycling is, etc. They reply with comments about the heat, the cold, sweating, no place safe to ride, etc.
The next time they see me there's no mention of cycling or exercising.
Yesterday I had this conversation.
store clerk: Wow. You sure have big calves. You must work out a lot.
me: No, not at all. I'm a cyclist. I ride my bike to work and on errands and on the weekend.
store clerk: * blank stare *
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04-03-08, 07:44 AM
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I wear regular clothes when riding, so I look completely normal when I go in stores. However, everyone looks at me like I'm a martian any time I'm riding, loading, or locking my bike.
04-03-08, 07:54 AM
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My coworker (who also rides regularly) had to run over to the bank during his lunch break back in January. He walks into the bank and after a few seconds realizes he is still wearing his balacava
... he took it off in a REAL hurry before anyone paniced and called the cops or worse yet pull out a gun (thankfully not so likely here).
Neither of us cared about looking like a Martian... but you DO NOT want to look a bank robber at a bank.
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... he took it off in a REAL hurry before anyone paniced and called the cops or worse yet pull out a gun (thankfully not so likely here). Neither of us cared about looking like a Martian
... but you DO NOT want to look a bank robber at a bank.Happy riding,
André
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Sorry long, but it is good, at least I think so.
About 6 month ago I hook up the bob and make a run to wally world. As I check out I tell the cashier “I DO NOT WANT BAGS, put them in the cart”, after taking about the 3rd thing out she gets the hint. I bout 10 cans of fruit and veggies, a gallon of milk, some cereal, 2 cuts of meat, and a loaf of bread(I'll explain exactly how I know that in a min). As I walk past the "greeter" she says “have a nice day” and I continue out the door. Just as I hit the parking lot some pony tailed little punk grabs my shoulder and swings me around, (fyi I bounced for several years and he was real close to going down with a fist to the jaw but I restrained) He then proceeds to grab and cart and starts back in the store telling me I stole the stuff, he is a security officer for wally and I have to come inside now. . I grab the cart and shove him about 10 ft telling him it is mine and to back off. He starts some rant about how I didn't pay, they have witnesses, and how I HAVE to come back in the store and grabs my wrist. At that point I shake loose and tell him to call the cops I want to report and assault. Now by this point we have a crowd watching and some little old women is yelling for me to hit him, and how wally world discriminates….. He keeps talking yap yap yap, I keep telling him to call the police....He reaches for me one more time and I tell him if he does he will end up one the parking lot, and charged with assault, and go the hospital for his troubles if he touches me. Now I am still fairly calm and honestly having a little fun because I know I am in the right when about this time a suit walks out and gets between us (come to find out he is the GM). He ask the guy “what's going on”, he lies and says I stole the stuff and I hit him ( I never had), I say “no I did neither and to please call the police”, and I want copies of the cameras I can see now and I want everyone hers name because I plan to file assault and any other charge I can figure out. Now the manager is a little scared, and says to calm down he ask if I have a receipt, and if we can talk inside. I say yes I have one, but no I will not go inside, I explain how if that punk had asked I'd have been glad to give it to him, but instead he choose to assault me. He looks at the receipt, goes through my buggy and says "ok you can leave." I stand my ground and say call the police I am filing assault charges against the punk, and the store(never planning to but the look in his eyes and the crowds cheers were worth every second). His eyes got so big he is now in full standing panic, and all but beggs me to come inside. Again I decline, and tell him my demands. 1st fire the punk, he turns and tells him, and his 4-5 cronies who are standing around to go back inside. He says they will be delt with. I proceed to tell him I will file charges if I ever see him again. From there I explain why I choose not to get a bag, and how hard it was for me to park my bike and trailer at the store and tell him I want something done. And he give me a card with his info and tells me he will deal with security, and “look” into the bike parking. When I get home I had time on the ride to think about the whole thing. So I call the guys cell and ask him 1st if he had yet reviewed the tapes he says yes and agrees that the guy was wrong. Opps now I have him. So I tell him to lock the tapes up incase my lawyer want’s them (don’t have one never planned on it) He stutters for awhile and give me some mubo jumbo, but I now know he has tapes and he has seen them. So I say look, I’ll agree not to do anything if they put in a bolted down bike stand with a bench and make sure it is if a clear visible area within 2 weeks, otherwise I will proceed……to wrap up I now have a bike rack with a bench at our local wally world. The one down side is occasionally some manager thinks it’s a good place to park their over inventory of bikes, I just get out the cell and make one call and tell the GM I am in the parking lot and to please get a guy with a key out their Now. It usually works if the GM is there, not sure what I’ll do if he transfers. .
About 6 month ago I hook up the bob and make a run to wally world. As I check out I tell the cashier “I DO NOT WANT BAGS, put them in the cart”, after taking about the 3rd thing out she gets the hint. I bout 10 cans of fruit and veggies, a gallon of milk, some cereal, 2 cuts of meat, and a loaf of bread(I'll explain exactly how I know that in a min). As I walk past the "greeter" she says “have a nice day” and I continue out the door. Just as I hit the parking lot some pony tailed little punk grabs my shoulder and swings me around, (fyi I bounced for several years and he was real close to going down with a fist to the jaw but I restrained) He then proceeds to grab and cart and starts back in the store telling me I stole the stuff, he is a security officer for wally and I have to come inside now. . I grab the cart and shove him about 10 ft telling him it is mine and to back off. He starts some rant about how I didn't pay, they have witnesses, and how I HAVE to come back in the store and grabs my wrist. At that point I shake loose and tell him to call the cops I want to report and assault. Now by this point we have a crowd watching and some little old women is yelling for me to hit him, and how wally world discriminates….. He keeps talking yap yap yap, I keep telling him to call the police....He reaches for me one more time and I tell him if he does he will end up one the parking lot, and charged with assault, and go the hospital for his troubles if he touches me. Now I am still fairly calm and honestly having a little fun because I know I am in the right when about this time a suit walks out and gets between us (come to find out he is the GM). He ask the guy “what's going on”, he lies and says I stole the stuff and I hit him ( I never had), I say “no I did neither and to please call the police”, and I want copies of the cameras I can see now and I want everyone hers name because I plan to file assault and any other charge I can figure out. Now the manager is a little scared, and says to calm down he ask if I have a receipt, and if we can talk inside. I say yes I have one, but no I will not go inside, I explain how if that punk had asked I'd have been glad to give it to him, but instead he choose to assault me. He looks at the receipt, goes through my buggy and says "ok you can leave." I stand my ground and say call the police I am filing assault charges against the punk, and the store(never planning to but the look in his eyes and the crowds cheers were worth every second). His eyes got so big he is now in full standing panic, and all but beggs me to come inside. Again I decline, and tell him my demands. 1st fire the punk, he turns and tells him, and his 4-5 cronies who are standing around to go back inside. He says they will be delt with. I proceed to tell him I will file charges if I ever see him again. From there I explain why I choose not to get a bag, and how hard it was for me to park my bike and trailer at the store and tell him I want something done. And he give me a card with his info and tells me he will deal with security, and “look” into the bike parking. When I get home I had time on the ride to think about the whole thing. So I call the guys cell and ask him 1st if he had yet reviewed the tapes he says yes and agrees that the guy was wrong. Opps now I have him. So I tell him to lock the tapes up incase my lawyer want’s them (don’t have one never planned on it) He stutters for awhile and give me some mubo jumbo, but I now know he has tapes and he has seen them. So I say look, I’ll agree not to do anything if they put in a bolted down bike stand with a bench and make sure it is if a clear visible area within 2 weeks, otherwise I will proceed……to wrap up I now have a bike rack with a bench at our local wally world. The one down side is occasionally some manager thinks it’s a good place to park their over inventory of bikes, I just get out the cell and make one call and tell the GM I am in the parking lot and to please get a guy with a key out their Now. It usually works if the GM is there, not sure what I’ll do if he transfers. .
04-03-08, 08:06 AM
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Sorry long, but it is good, at least I think so.
About 6 month ago I hook up the bob and make a run to wally world. As I check out I tell the cashier “I DO NOT WANT BAGS, put them in the cart”, after taking about the 3rd thing out she gets the hint. I bout 10 cans of fruit and veggies, a gallon of milk, some cereal, 2 cuts of meat, and a loaf of bread(I'll explain exactly how I know that in a min). As I walk past the "greeter" she says “have a nice day” and I continue out the door. Just as I hit the parking lot some pony tailed little punk grabs my shoulder and swings me around, (fyi I bounced for several years and he was real close to going down with a fist to the jaw but I restrained) He then proceeds to grab and cart and starts back in the store telling me I stole the stuff, he is a security officer for wally and I have to come inside now. . I grab the cart and shove him about 10 ft telling him it is mine and to back off. He starts some rant about how I didn't pay, they have witnesses, and how I HAVE to come back in the store and grabs my wrist. At that point I shake loose and tell him to call the cops I want to report and assault. Now by this point we have a crowd watching and some little old women is yelling for me to hit him, and how wally world discriminates….. He keeps talking yap yap yap, I keep telling him to call the police....He reaches for me one more time and I tell him if he does he will end up one the parking lot, and charged with assault, and go the hospital for his troubles if he touches me. Now I am still fairly calm and honestly having a little fun because I know I am in the right when about this time a suit walks out and gets between us (come to find out he is the GM). He ask the guy “what's going on”, he lies and says I stole the stuff and I hit him ( I never had), I say “no I did neither and to please call the police”, and I want copies of the cameras I can see now and I want everyone hers name because I plan to file assault and any other charge I can figure out. Now the manager is a little scared, and says to calm down he ask if I have a receipt, and if we can talk inside. I say yes I have one, but no I will not go inside, I explain how if that punk had asked I'd have been glad to give it to him, but instead he choose to assault me. He looks at the receipt, goes through my buggy and says "ok you can leave." I stand my ground and say call the police I am filing assault charges against the punk, and the store(never planning to but the look in his eyes and the crowds cheers were worth every second). His eyes got so big he is now in full standing panic, and all but beggs me to come inside. Again I decline, and tell him my demands. 1st fire the punk, he turns and tells him, and his 4-5 cronies who are standing around to go back inside. He says they will be delt with. I proceed to tell him I will file charges if I ever see him again. From there I explain why I choose not to get a bag, and how hard it was for me to park my bike and trailer at the store and tell him I want something done. And he give me a card with his info and tells me he will deal with security, and “look” into the bike parking. When I get home I had time on the ride to think about the whole thing. So I call the guys cell and ask him 1st if he had yet reviewed the tapes he says yes and agrees that the guy was wrong. Opps now I have him. So I tell him to lock the tapes up incase my lawyer want’s them (don’t have one never planned on it) He stutters for awhile and give me some mubo jumbo, but I now know he has tapes and he has seen them. So I say look, I’ll agree not to do anything if they put in a bolted down bike stand with a bench and make sure it is if a clear visible area within 2 weeks, otherwise I will proceed……to wrap up I now have a bike rack with a bench at our local wally world. The one down side is occasionally some manager thinks it’s a good place to park their over inventory of bikes, I just get out the cell and make one call and tell the GM I am in the parking lot and to please get a guy with a key out their Now. It usually works if the GM is there, not sure what I’ll do if he transfers. .
About 6 month ago I hook up the bob and make a run to wally world. As I check out I tell the cashier “I DO NOT WANT BAGS, put them in the cart”, after taking about the 3rd thing out she gets the hint. I bout 10 cans of fruit and veggies, a gallon of milk, some cereal, 2 cuts of meat, and a loaf of bread(I'll explain exactly how I know that in a min). As I walk past the "greeter" she says “have a nice day” and I continue out the door. Just as I hit the parking lot some pony tailed little punk grabs my shoulder and swings me around, (fyi I bounced for several years and he was real close to going down with a fist to the jaw but I restrained) He then proceeds to grab and cart and starts back in the store telling me I stole the stuff, he is a security officer for wally and I have to come inside now. . I grab the cart and shove him about 10 ft telling him it is mine and to back off. He starts some rant about how I didn't pay, they have witnesses, and how I HAVE to come back in the store and grabs my wrist. At that point I shake loose and tell him to call the cops I want to report and assault. Now by this point we have a crowd watching and some little old women is yelling for me to hit him, and how wally world discriminates….. He keeps talking yap yap yap, I keep telling him to call the police....He reaches for me one more time and I tell him if he does he will end up one the parking lot, and charged with assault, and go the hospital for his troubles if he touches me. Now I am still fairly calm and honestly having a little fun because I know I am in the right when about this time a suit walks out and gets between us (come to find out he is the GM). He ask the guy “what's going on”, he lies and says I stole the stuff and I hit him ( I never had), I say “no I did neither and to please call the police”, and I want copies of the cameras I can see now and I want everyone hers name because I plan to file assault and any other charge I can figure out. Now the manager is a little scared, and says to calm down he ask if I have a receipt, and if we can talk inside. I say yes I have one, but no I will not go inside, I explain how if that punk had asked I'd have been glad to give it to him, but instead he choose to assault me. He looks at the receipt, goes through my buggy and says "ok you can leave." I stand my ground and say call the police I am filing assault charges against the punk, and the store(never planning to but the look in his eyes and the crowds cheers were worth every second). His eyes got so big he is now in full standing panic, and all but beggs me to come inside. Again I decline, and tell him my demands. 1st fire the punk, he turns and tells him, and his 4-5 cronies who are standing around to go back inside. He says they will be delt with. I proceed to tell him I will file charges if I ever see him again. From there I explain why I choose not to get a bag, and how hard it was for me to park my bike and trailer at the store and tell him I want something done. And he give me a card with his info and tells me he will deal with security, and “look” into the bike parking. When I get home I had time on the ride to think about the whole thing. So I call the guys cell and ask him 1st if he had yet reviewed the tapes he says yes and agrees that the guy was wrong. Opps now I have him. So I tell him to lock the tapes up incase my lawyer want’s them (don’t have one never planned on it) He stutters for awhile and give me some mubo jumbo, but I now know he has tapes and he has seen them. So I say look, I’ll agree not to do anything if they put in a bolted down bike stand with a bench and make sure it is if a clear visible area within 2 weeks, otherwise I will proceed……to wrap up I now have a bike rack with a bench at our local wally world. The one down side is occasionally some manager thinks it’s a good place to park their over inventory of bikes, I just get out the cell and make one call and tell the GM I am in the parking lot and to please get a guy with a key out their Now. It usually works if the GM is there, not sure what I’ll do if he transfers. .
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert A. Heinlein
04-04-08, 10:46 AM
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Get on your bikes & ride!
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My coworker (who also rides regularly) had to run over to the bank during his lunch break back in January. He walks into the bank and after a few seconds realizes he is still wearing his balacava... he took it off in a REAL hurry before anyone paniced and called the cops or worse yet pull out a gun (thankfully not so likely here).
Neither of us cared about looking like a Martian... but you DO NOT want to look a bank robber at a bank.
Happy riding,
André
... he took it off in a REAL hurry before anyone paniced and called the cops or worse yet pull out a gun (thankfully not so likely here). Neither of us cared about looking like a Martian
... but you DO NOT want to look a bank robber at a bank.Happy riding,
André
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04-04-08, 11:06 AM
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Seeing things
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LOL! That's good stuff! Too bad it's Walmart. If it'd been your LBS, you'd be rolling!
04-04-08, 12:08 PM
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My favorite is the same line I've gotten for years riding my motorcycles. Somebody will see my gear(bike or motorcycle) or see me on the bike and comment how nice a day it is to be out riding.
Cause you can't ride two-wheeled vehicles in the rain. They're made of sugar.
Cause you can't ride two-wheeled vehicles in the rain. They're made of sugar.
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