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Old 05-17-08, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Irregardless
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Old 05-19-08, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
Absolutely! I'm 5'7", and have ridden road bikes with 700c wheels forever. Every one of them has toe overlap problems because of the wheel size. I just bought a 1993 Bridgestone XO-2, which is specced with 26 inch wheels but has road geometry. I LOVE IT. No overlap. The tires absorb a lot of shock, and I don't notice much of a performance hit. More small bikes should come with smaller wheels. Period.
That sounds like a frame design difference, not a wheel size difference.
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman View Post
That's weird. I haven't seen hardly any 26" wheel commuters in the bike shops. Most of the bike shops have 700c commuters. What brands have a 26" wheel purpose-built commuter?

Trek has 700c commuters
Specialized 700c commuters.
Swobo 700c commuters
Electra 700c commuters
where are the 26" commuters?

Oh and really wide 26" tires are good. I tried some Schwalbe fat apples in a 26x2.3" and they are sooooo comfy. Floating over any rough pavement is a breeze.
I don't know of too many bicycle brands that offer "purpose-built commuters" with 26 in wheels and I question how that would be an advantage with a commuter bike with a higher profile that has 700c wheels. I really don't comprehend how a 26er commuter bike will allow its rider to benefit from the same type of visibility that a 700c or 29er commuter would enjoy. Other than the advantage of possibly having a wider width of tire, I just don't quite see any major benefit of commuting on a 26er.

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Old 05-07-13, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike H View Post
How about the Novara Safari. I'm loving mine. Might look sluggish, but ask a few roadies I smoked the other day how quick it can be(panniers and all).
My girlfriend has a Safari. It seems unnecessarily heavy. I just built her up a rigid mountain bike from the 90's for around town use that is much lighter (although it is aluminum). I commute every day on a '93 GT Outpost set up for city use.

IMO the way to go in city is a rigid fork mountain bike from the early 90's. Roads are awful and you are stopping every five blocks at least anyway, do it on comfy tires and an upright riding position where you can see the hazards, approaching cars and they can see you.

Also, unless the Safari's have changed, they are 26" in the smaller sizes and 700c in the larger.
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Old 05-07-13, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Buglady View Post
I have a mid-eighties Japanese sport touring bike, which has a lightweight steel frame, 26" wheels, and gearing that is midway between mountain bike and road. I'm really happy with it - the fact it cost $5 at a church bazaar is a bonus (We won't talk about the $200 worth of new parts.... heh.) Eyelets everywhere, and triple ring that saved my sorry ass in a hilly ride into a headwinds today...
That's nothing! I've put $2K into a low end early 90's mountain bike, that I picked up for $10!
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Old 05-07-13, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pgoat View Post
What they said

My commuter is a '93 Marin, all steel, no shocks, 1" slicks pumped up to 95-105 psi. Heavy compared to a road bike of course, but it's under 30 pounds with rack. I can live with that....long as there's a granny ring on there!!
Yep, old mtbs with rigid forks make great commuters; you have great choices on tires and they're cheap. My 1988 specialized stumpjumper comp was a CL find. I overhauled the bike, bought new tires, and replaced the brake and derailleur cables but the bike was otherwise in fine shape:
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Originally Posted by pgoat View Post
they're close enough.


but even pumped up to the max of 60 psi or so, no way a fat 26" knobbie (or slick for that matter) rides/feels like a good 700 wheel for my money.
Wouldn't know to compare as I've never ridden skinny 700c tires, but 26" slicks come in high pressures too. Several posters have mentioned running 1" at 100 PSI. I used to run 1 & 1/8 Conti Gatorskins at 120 PSI (recommended PSI 116), but the ride was harsh and after about 6 months they were shredded from the streets here.

26 x 1.5 Marathons: 100 PSI, 26 x 1.5 Vittoria Randoneur Pros 90 PSI, nominally 26 x 1.5* Panaracer T-Serv Protex's 75 PSI, I run all these regularly, 60 PSI is not the max for 26" slicks at all.

* These Panaracers run small, the ones labeled 26 x 1.75 " are somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6"
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Why do you people dredge up these 5-year-old threads and respond to them as if it's an on-going discussion? The OP might be dead by now for all you know or, even worse, not commuting any more.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
OP might be dead by now for all you know or, even worse, not commuting any more.
Either way he's dead to us
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Made my own using a 27 1 1/4 roadie that was about to be scrapped. Live those 27s super comfy at 32c.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
Why do you people dredge up these 5-year-old threads and respond to them as if it's an on-going discussion? The OP might be dead by now for all you know or, even worse, not commuting any more.
I dunno...People die daily. That doesn't mean that their previous interests expired right along with them. IMO, the OP raised an interesting point concerning the practicality of 26er commuters versus 700c commuters. While I personally prefer a 700c wheeled commuter, I think that I'm slowly beginning to see some of the advantages of commuting on a 26er. However, I'm not sure...

Therefore, I just thought I'd resurrect an old thread that still addressed some of the same issues with regards to 26er commuter mtbikes. Since the elapse of time has occurred, I was just wondering if most commuters still feel the same or differently.

I was also hoping to infuse perhaps another thought or question:

Are 26er commuter bicycle platforms as safe and efficient as 700c or 29er bicycle platforms?

What about visibility?

Can a 26er mtb commuter see approaching traffic as well as a 700c or 29er mtb commuter?

Which commuter is more easily observed by approaching drivers, a 26er or a 700c commuter?

Is a 26er more or less manuerverable in traffic than a 700c or 29er?

Or for that matter, do any of these questions actually make any sense?

Are these relevant questions?

If so,

Why? ..or Why not?

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Originally Posted by bkrownd View Post
That sounds like a frame design difference, not a wheel size difference.
I think this might be the case with certain bicycles like the average 26er mtb geomerty versus bikes like the Townie and the Giant Sedona.
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Originally Posted by Cfiber View Post
I was also hoping to infuse perhaps another thought or question:

Are 26er commuter bicycle platforms as safe and efficient as 700c or 29er bicycle platforms?

What about visibility?

Can a 26er mtb commuter see approaching traffic as well as a 700c or 29er mtb commuter?

Which commuter is more easily observed by approaching drivers, a 26er or a 700c commuter?

Is a 26er more or less manuerverable in traffic than a 700c or 29er?

Or for that matter, do any of these questions actually make any sense?

Are these relevant questions?

If so,

Why? ..or Why not?
None of the questions are relevant. The differences between the height or efficiency of 26" versus 700c wheels is dwarfed by the different types of bikes that have all of those wheels.

If you want a bike with 26" wheels, get one. If you want a bike with 700c wheels, get one.

Hope that clears things up.

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Originally Posted by Cfiber View Post
I dunno...People die daily. That doesn't mean that their previous interests expired right along with them. IMO, the OP raised an interesting point concerning the practicality of 26er commuters versus 700c commuters. While I personally prefer a 700c wheeled commuter, I think that I'm slowly beginning to see some of the advantages of commuting on a 26er. However, I'm not sure...

Therefore, I just thought I'd resurrect an old thread that still addressed some of the same issues with regards to 26er commuter mtbikes. Since the elapse of time has occurred, I was just wondering if most commuters still feel the same or differently.

I was also hoping to infuse perhaps another thought or question:

Are 26er commuter bicycle platforms as safe and efficient as 700c or 29er bicycle platforms?

What about visibility?

Can a 26er mtb commuter see approaching traffic as well as a 700c or 29er mtb commuter?

Which commuter is more easily observed by approaching drivers, a 26er or a 700c commuter?

Is a 26er more or less manuerverable in traffic than a 700c or 29er?

Or for that matter, do any of these questions actually make any sense?

Are these relevant questions?

If so,

Why? ..or Why not?
All fine and dandy, but why not just create a new thread? You've got people responding to questions in a 5-year old post. The OP and many people who were contributing to the original thread are long gone.
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Originally Posted by cplager View Post

None of the questions are relevant. The differences between the height or efficiency of 26" versus 700c wheels is dwarfed by the different types of bikes that have all of those wheels.

Charles
This statement makes no sense to me....

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This statement makes no sense to me....
You can find efficient bikes and bikes with excellent visibility in a variety of wheel sizes. For example folders have small wheels but can put their riders in a position where they have good visibility.

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Originally Posted by Cfiber View Post
This statement makes no sense to me....
He means that other factors such as flat bar vs. drop bar make more of a difference than what size the wheels are.

On topic though, I don't think manoeverability is a big factor in many people's commuting. And on pretty much all other fronts except cost, it's hard to argue with 700c wheels.

I use a 29er mtb with big apple tires, converted to single chainring with a road cassette in the back. It is very comfortable, and plenty fast.
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Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
You can find efficient bikes and bikes with excellent visibility in a variety of wheel sizes. For example folders have small wheels but can put their riders in a position where they have good visibility.
Well that makes sense for sure!
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Originally Posted by xlDooM View Post


.....And on pretty much all other fronts except cost, it's hard to argue with 700c wheels.
Agreed!
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Okay, either somebody else is OVERthinking this, or I'm UNDERthinking it....

"Dedicated commuter bike" -- what IS that? It's a BIKE, an inherently GOOD thing, the BEST invention produced by the mind of man! You find one that FITS you, does what you want it to DO, and you buy it and ride it 'til it dies! If you want ONE for one purpose, and another for something else 'cause that's how you "ROLL" (no pun), then buy up, player. To ME, a "dedicated commuter" is the bike you have CHOSEN to BE the one you ride for COMMUTING.

I'm not the guy (right now) who feels the need for more than one bike. (I'm looking, down the line, to pick up an Electra Rat Rod for play) The bike for me right now is a Kona Coiler Supreme, full-suspension MTB. I will replace it when it dies (as I did its predecessor, the Jamis Dakar XLT). It rolls wonderfully, handles whatever silliness comes to mind while I'm riding, fits me, and protects my 'poor old bad back'. I commute on it, do fun rides with the kids, run errands, and do some distance by myself every now and again (50 miles is about the limit).

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Originally Posted by DX-MAN View Post

"Dedicated commuter bike" -- what IS that? It's a BIKE, an inherently GOOD thing, the BEST invention produced by the mind of man! You find one that FITS you, does what you want it to DO, and you buy it and ride it 'til it dies! If you want ONE for one purpose, and another for something else 'cause that's how you "ROLL" (no pun), then buy up, player. To ME, a "dedicated commuter" is the bike you have CHOSEN to BE the one you ride for COMMUTING.
Yep! Well, that's how I roll then, player!

N+1 forever...

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I don't know of too many bicycle brands that offer "purpose-built commuters" with 26 in wheels and I question how that would be an advantage with a commuter bike with a higher profile that has 700c wheels. I really don't comprehend how a 26er commuter bike will allow its rider to benefit from the same type of visibility that a 700c or 29er commuter would enjoy. Other than the advantage of possibly having a wider width of tire, I just don't quite see any major benefit of commuting on a 26er.
Specialized offers the Globe San Francisco (and others in the Globe line) as 26" commuters or "city" bikes. I had a Globe that I used in Seattle for about a year--26" wheels, shod with slicks, and Sram X5 running gear. I know they make it with an Alfine 8 speed rear hub and a dynamo front hub too--very decent, lightweight commuters. Visibility in traffic wasn't an issue--it was a fairly tall bike with a large head tube. Coupled with the lights, I don't see how it was any less visible than any other type of bike. Although I like the way my slick-shod 26" commuter rolls now (its a mountain bike), I am going to "upgrade" to a 700c bike.

A pic of the Globe:



Here is the bike parked outside a Seattle Grocery store (in the Ravenna area, next to the wife's Cannondale B-Boy):


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Originally Posted by Erwin8r View Post
Specialized offers the Globe San Francisco (and others in the Globe line) as 26" commuters or "city" bikes. I had a Globe that I used in Seattle for about a year--26" wheels, shod with slicks, and Sram X5 running gear. I know they make it with an Alfine 8 speed rear hub and a dynamo front hub too--very decent, lightweight commuters. Visibility in traffic wasn't an issue--it was a fairly tall bike with a large head tube. Coupled with the lights, I don't see how it was any less visible than any other type of bike. Although I like the way my slick-shod 26" commuter rolls now (its a mountain bike), I am going to "upgrade" to a 700c bike.

A pic of the Globe:



Here is the bike parked outside a Seattle Grocery store (in the Ravenna area, next to the wife's Cannondale B-Boy):


Now those are some really nice bikes!

I didn't even know about the San Francisco...That's one awesome steed, for sure!

...Always did like that Bad Boy 9!

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