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Old 06-02-08, 10:53 AM
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Bicycle SuperHighway Now!

I feel it is time to build separate highway system dedicated to bicyclists! I mean true elevated highways hovering over city streets like automobile highways with off/on ramps .
I am tired and fed up of dealing with stoplights as you know that it is most energy intensive to start roling from a dead stop. I often skirted around the intersections in order to keep it rolling free. I dont think it is fun doing upslope as far as daily commuting is concerned.
I live 30 miles from San Francisco or Oakland and I would love to see one superhighway built all way there from my hometown. I would bypass the rapid transit system and cycling with full gusto over the level elevated superhighway!!
The superhighway can be paved with special surfacing optimized for cycling to eliminate roling resistance. You cant do that on regular streets as it would be worn out fast by automobiles and buses.
this is the idea!!
Lets write to your Congress! Huh?
What better way to cut down on global warming climate change than to ride on a ultra smooth bicycle superhighway???
yeah yeah right on!
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Old 06-02-08, 10:57 AM
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Plano, TX has a rather nice separate bicycle infrastructure and is adding and improving it. ( http://pdf.plano.gov/parks/Bluebonne...dge_Legacy.pdf )

Many cities in the metroplex have and are adding to their own trail system with the goal of connecting all the cities in the greater DFW area and have a DFW Veloweb. I'm quite happy with this
 
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I recall reading that in the early 1900's there was an elevated bike path from downtown LA to Pasadena but it was later scrapped and that route eventually became the 110 freeway.
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I recall reading that in the early 1900's there was an elevated bike path from downtown LA to Pasadena but it was later scrapped and that route eventually became the 110 freeway.
Figures. That LA freeway system is a pile of crap-- I hate it-- and I'm going to have to go down there again in a couple of weeks.
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Originally Posted by Gumby View Post
I feel it is time to build separate highway system dedicated to bicyclists!
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Old 06-02-08, 11:56 AM
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Yea... that's just what we need - more highways
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Old 06-02-08, 12:31 PM
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In places, that's what our rail-trail is. Goes 46 miles from the Potomac river across from DC out to the Appalachian mountains. Near the city, the trail gets overpasses, also over the more major roads in the suburbs. It makes up the majority of my commute, and it certainly is nice.
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A super-expensive highway infrastructure only for bicycles will just give cagers more reason to lobby for banning cyclists from regular roads.

I'm all for multi-use-paths, but it's still often necessary to use the regular roads to get around. I do think it would be cool to ride many of the country's rail-trails. I often use roads to get from A to B quickly, but for joy-riding and bicycle camping I love a good MUP or rail-trail:
http://www.traillink.com/
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Oh man, by the time I got to the end of the OP, I was full-on hearing Austin Powers.

Great post. Glad Gumby forgot his meds this morning.
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Shouldn't this be in VC?
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If you want to save energy then building such a project would waste way more energy than it would save. If there were enough cyclists to make the elevated highway save energy in the long run then there would be no need for an elevated cycle path because there wouldn't be many motorists on the roads.

This ninety minute video shows what is possible for cycling infrastructure; http://www.sfu.ca/city/city_pgm_video020.htm. I would prefer this to your elevated structures.
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Originally Posted by Gumby View Post
What better way to cut down on global warming climate change than to ride on a ultra smooth bicycle superhighway???
yeah yeah right on!
No; it wouldn't take any fossil fuels to build the thing!

I can’t stand the trend in home improvement shows… They are tearing down perfectly sound houses to consume a crap load of natural resources to build a “Green” home! Apparently no trees are cut down to make said improvements; nor fossil fuels used to transport said building materials to the home improvement mega plex…
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Figures. That LA freeway system is a pile of crap-- I hate it-- and I'm going to have to go down there again in a couple of weeks.
Actually, the 110 would make a fine bike path. Just remove the cars. (And sweep it clean.)
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No thanks. Don't need it. Don't want it.



Oh ..... and can you just imagine the wind on something like that???

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Actually, the 110 would make a fine bike path. Just remove the cars. (And sweep it clean.)
Perhaps the 110 in particular, but navigationally, the whole freeway system from Ventura to Irvine and east to San Bernardino is a navigational mess for anyone who doesn't live there (or didn't grow up there, like me). My wife "lets" me drive that half when we go see my parental units.
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I like biking at ground level too. But I won't complain if the number of cars goes down.
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There are definitely benefits to riding at ground level.

If the OP ever crossed the Tasman Bridge (Hobart, Tasmania, Australia) by bicycle .... and I have done ... he'd never ask for a raised superhighway again.

http://www.parliament.tas.gov.au/history/brd5.htm
http://www.parliament.tas.gov.au/history/brd4.htm
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Bike paths

I just did a bike tour down the California coast and went through San Francisco. I just wish there were that many bike paths where I live. Be thankful for what you have. But I do see a need for more of what you have down there.

With the increase of bike riders in my area I can see more bike friendly bike paths being build and used on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by Smallwheels View Post
If you want to save energy then building such a project would waste way more energy than it would save. If there were enough cyclists to make the elevated highway save energy in the long run then there would be no need for an elevated cycle path because there wouldn't be many motorists on the roads.
Really? I should call my local government and tell them to cancel the Claclamas <---> Portland electric commuter train (light rail). I will inform them that for it to have a net positive effect, everyone must stop driving their car and that will never happen .
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