Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

The Cost of Food as Bike Fuel vs Gas for Cars

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

The Cost of Food as Bike Fuel vs Gas for Cars

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-04-08, 04:14 PM
  #51  
Senior Member
 
JTGraphics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 2,678
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't see it that way I'm going to eat no mater what.
If I drive a car I must put gas in it and eat.
__________________
It may not be fancy but it gets me were I need to go.
https://www.jtgraphics.net/cyclist_bicycles.htm
JTGraphics is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 04:21 PM
  #52  
Senior Member
 
ottawa_adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 448

Bikes: kona dew hybrid, MEC shadowlands

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I don't snack anymore than I did before I started commuting. I have never been one to have to munch on snacks during the day. If I have a hankering for something, I'll have a fresh apple or orange. Less processed and easy to digest.
ottawa_adam is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 04:22 PM
  #53  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,505

Bikes: Specialized Tricross Sport 2009

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by JugglerDave
$4.00 per gallon gas.
My car gets approx. 23.5 MPG, (this is $0.17 / mile for gas).
Biking is approx. 30-40 calories per mile (I'll use 35).
That's 35 * 23.5 = 822 calories for "gallon of gas distance equivalence".

So any snack that costs $4.00 for 822 calories costs the same as gasoline.
Starchy snacks (e.g. pretzels) are 100 or 110 calories per ounce.
Ow. Why can't you all just learn to use metric

Steve
stevage is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 05:03 PM
  #54  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by girljen
And then there's the consideration of the enjoyment level of the food. There is no emotional or sensual benefit to putting gasoline in a car. However, food can have emotional benefits. Think of the difference between 500 calories of granola with milk (tasty but nothing special; inexpensive) vs. 500 calories of filet mignon and fresh steamed veggies (WANT!!; expensive).
actually, there is a big enjoyment out of putting gas in our cars; especially when gas price is off the roof. it is a patriotism we hold so dear, knowing that the higher the price the more patriotic we are. plus, there is also that fear that if we don't pay and stop buying gas guzzlers, the terrorists have won. it is sorta like the old say "i am a god fearing christian;" you're not a christian by choice but rather by force because if you're not the devil wins and you goes straight to hell.

speaking of gas, it is one of those tricky product that is very hard to save. it evaporates and goes bad over time so one constantly have to top it off and put stabilizer chemical in it. as sweat as the patriotic fumes may smell, we won't want to kill the environment by our fume, so top off and stablelizer we slave ourself to achieve.

NOTE: THIS HUMOR IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY G.W. BUSH; OUR FEARLESS LITTER (OR IS IT LEADER I CAN'T TELL BY HIS BROKEN ENGLISH)
nick__45 is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 06:13 PM
  #55  
i won't f us over
 
Vodalus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dublin, OH
Posts: 100

Bikes: Raleigh Detour 3.0, Specialized Allez SE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't think I eat that much more in a usual day than I would otherwise. The difference, though, is that I spread it out more throughout the day. Instead of eating one "lunch" I find myself eating a little bit right after work, then snacking on my sandwiches/veggies/etc that I'd always have in my lunch in hour or two increments after that.

An important thing I can toss into this calculation is the fact that there were 3-5 drives per week when i was in my car where i would stop and get some sort of snack or meal, and that doesn't even count the pack (or more) a day of cigs that i was burning through at the time. Now that I'm biking I have basically kicked both habits I can afford to eat a little more and still come out way ahead.
Vodalus is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 08:00 PM
  #56  
Banned
 
dynodonn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: U.S. of A.
Posts: 7,466
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1268 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 67 Posts
I don't care if I spend more money on food than gasoline, it's a lot more enjoyable to eat my hard earned dollars than pump them into the gas tank of my SUV.
__________________
Prisoner No. 979




dynodonn is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 08:14 PM
  #57  
RT
The Weird Beard
 
RT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: COS
Posts: 8,554
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by stevage
Ow. Why can't you all just learn to use metric

Steve
They told us in 2nd grade that by high school we'd be speaking metric. That was 1972. I think we're set in our ways
RT is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 09:28 PM
  #58  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 4,556
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Try 1075 calories per gallon of gas. I used https://www.my-calorie-counter.com/Calories_Burned.asp, at a 11-14mph pace, and 175lbs.

1% milk has 110 calories per cup. A gallon has 16 cups, so 1760 calories. And it's a much better snack for high energy users than salty pretzels or pasta.

A gallon of milk is similar in price to a gallon of gasoline. So, you get about 38.5 miles to one gallon of milk.


However, milk tastes good. Gas smells bad.
Cycling, as an aerobic exercise, helps reduce the risk of heart disease and diabetes.
The average person consumes a few hundred extra calories without exercise, why not turn those into 6 miles of travel?

Don't take this too literally. Drinking that much milk has its own health problems. I just find it to be an incredibly good unit, since it's sold by the gallon.
crhilton is offline  
Old 06-04-08, 09:37 PM
  #59  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 4,556
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Tails2k5
Keep in mind cars (and bikes) cost more than their fuel. The IRS considers it costs $.50/mi to drive a car. This would make a commute of 23 miles come out to $11.50 in cost. This includes the cost of the vehicle/depreciation, gas, insurance, etc. So if you avoid owning a car in favor of a bicycle, this is what you save.

What becomes VERY interesting is that for me to travel home from college, around 260 miles, I can buy a bus ticket for $50, which is FAR less than the $130 the IRS rate suggests. So without carpooling, buses/biking/whatever is cheaper for even long distances, unless you value your time relatively highly.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...176030,00.html
https://www.edmunds.com/apps/cto/CTOintroController

It varies by car, I find this tool helpful. It's only useful for new cars, used cars are quite a bit cheaper due to less depreciation, lower licensing, etc.
crhilton is offline  
Old 06-05-08, 06:59 AM
  #60  
Senior Member
 
lil brown bat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston (sort of)
Posts: 3,878

Bikes: 1 road, 1 Urban Assault Vehicle

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by 545h4
Boston, and coastal NH for that matter, have gotten some rain, but with the exception of 2 or 3 days in the last month, every rain cloud has gone out to sea and skipped over southern Maine. The fire alerts have been extremely high, etc. So, yeah, we got a drought...
From NOAA: A drought is defined as "a period of abnormally dry weather sufficiently prolonged for the lack of water to cause serious hydrologic imbalance in the affected area." -Glossary

High fire alerts or not, we don't got a drought in New England. Really, ask the folks down south what a drought is if you don't believe me -- we're a long way from "serious hydrologic imbalance". BTW, I don't live in Boston, I just commute here. I live in the Berkshires of western Mass.
lil brown bat is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 03:11 PM
  #61  
Senior Member
 
jaa1085's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dynodonn
I don't care if I spend more money on food than gasoline, it's a lot more enjoyable to eat my hard earned dollars than pump them into the gas tank of my SUV.
+1
jaa1085 is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 04:35 PM
  #62  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 98
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If you want a high density energy source: olive oil. It is a fat. Fats normally have an energy density 10 times higher than any carbohydrates.

Before you start trying to connive that 'driving a car is cheaper than biking' trying including maintenance of the car or bike, and cost of full replacement.

Car: 13,000 base line Smart Car. Cheap and legal in the US.
Six oil changes in a year: $200
Change of tires: $300
Odds and ends repairs: $500 (average)
Insurance: $750 (lots of variance)
Annual operating (without gas): $1750

Bike: 1,000 reasonable bike of your choice.
Bike parts/maintenance: $500
elfich is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 05:07 PM
  #63  
Barbieri Telefonico
 
huhenio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 3,522

Bikes: Crappy but operational secondhand Motobecane Messenger

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I am cooking some more fuel

It was trucked from somewhere else to the store

Now it is turning into cyclist fuel
__________________
Giving Haircuts Over The Phone
huhenio is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 07:04 PM
  #64  
Commuter First
 
newbojeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,286
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
All I know is that since I've been riding as much as I do, I've been hoovering up every baked good that comes within arms reach, I eat a dessert after every lunch and dinner, and I'm the thinnest I've ever been.

I'm 37 years old and waiting for this to all come to a sudden halt one of these years.

Just have to ride more, I guess.
newbojeff is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 07:14 PM
  #65  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 521
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
if i had the money i'd spend about $350 a month on the best, most natural, whole organic foods. that's about $150 more a month than i spend now. so, $350 a month for the finest food vs whatever gawdawful amount one may spend on gas is a good investment IMO.
goldfishin is offline  
Old 06-09-08, 07:45 PM
  #66  
Senior Member
 
lil brown bat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston (sort of)
Posts: 3,878

Bikes: 1 road, 1 Urban Assault Vehicle

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by huhenio
I am cooking some more fuel

It was trucked from somewhere else to the store

Now it is turning into cyclist fuel
I am growing some fuel in my garden It ain't there yet, though.
lil brown bat is offline  
Old 06-10-08, 09:15 PM
  #67  
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: KCMO
Posts: 37
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've read in several sources that the average american eats anywhere from 30-40% more calories on a daily basis then required. (which explains our overweight problems.) These simple statistics show you should be able to bike commute and cut down on food. A double savings.
Moonshiner is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.