The Cost of Food as Bike Fuel vs Gas for Cars
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I don't see it that way I'm going to eat no mater what.
If I drive a car I must put gas in it and eat.
If I drive a car I must put gas in it and eat.
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I don't snack anymore than I did before I started commuting. I have never been one to have to munch on snacks during the day. If I have a hankering for something, I'll have a fresh apple or orange. Less processed and easy to digest.
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$4.00 per gallon gas.
My car gets approx. 23.5 MPG, (this is $0.17 / mile for gas).
Biking is approx. 30-40 calories per mile (I'll use 35).
That's 35 * 23.5 = 822 calories for "gallon of gas distance equivalence".
So any snack that costs $4.00 for 822 calories costs the same as gasoline.
Starchy snacks (e.g. pretzels) are 100 or 110 calories per ounce.
My car gets approx. 23.5 MPG, (this is $0.17 / mile for gas).
Biking is approx. 30-40 calories per mile (I'll use 35).
That's 35 * 23.5 = 822 calories for "gallon of gas distance equivalence".
So any snack that costs $4.00 for 822 calories costs the same as gasoline.
Starchy snacks (e.g. pretzels) are 100 or 110 calories per ounce.
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And then there's the consideration of the enjoyment level of the food. There is no emotional or sensual benefit to putting gasoline in a car. However, food can have emotional benefits. Think of the difference between 500 calories of granola with milk (tasty but nothing special; inexpensive) vs. 500 calories of filet mignon and fresh steamed veggies (WANT!!; expensive).
speaking of gas, it is one of those tricky product that is very hard to save. it evaporates and goes bad over time so one constantly have to top it off and put stabilizer chemical in it. as sweat as the patriotic fumes may smell, we won't want to kill the environment by our fume, so top off and stablelizer we slave ourself to achieve.
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I don't think I eat that much more in a usual day than I would otherwise. The difference, though, is that I spread it out more throughout the day. Instead of eating one "lunch" I find myself eating a little bit right after work, then snacking on my sandwiches/veggies/etc that I'd always have in my lunch in hour or two increments after that.
An important thing I can toss into this calculation is the fact that there were 3-5 drives per week when i was in my car where i would stop and get some sort of snack or meal, and that doesn't even count the pack (or more) a day of cigs that i was burning through at the time. Now that I'm biking I have basically kicked both habits I can afford to eat a little more and still come out way ahead.
An important thing I can toss into this calculation is the fact that there were 3-5 drives per week when i was in my car where i would stop and get some sort of snack or meal, and that doesn't even count the pack (or more) a day of cigs that i was burning through at the time. Now that I'm biking I have basically kicked both habits I can afford to eat a little more and still come out way ahead.
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I don't care if I spend more money on food than gasoline, it's a lot more enjoyable to eat my hard earned dollars than pump them into the gas tank of my SUV.
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Try 1075 calories per gallon of gas. I used https://www.my-calorie-counter.com/Calories_Burned.asp, at a 11-14mph pace, and 175lbs.
1% milk has 110 calories per cup. A gallon has 16 cups, so 1760 calories. And it's a much better snack for high energy users than salty pretzels or pasta.
A gallon of milk is similar in price to a gallon of gasoline. So, you get about 38.5 miles to one gallon of milk.
However, milk tastes good. Gas smells bad.
Cycling, as an aerobic exercise, helps reduce the risk of heart disease and diabetes.
The average person consumes a few hundred extra calories without exercise, why not turn those into 6 miles of travel?
Don't take this too literally. Drinking that much milk has its own health problems. I just find it to be an incredibly good unit, since it's sold by the gallon.
1% milk has 110 calories per cup. A gallon has 16 cups, so 1760 calories. And it's a much better snack for high energy users than salty pretzels or pasta.
A gallon of milk is similar in price to a gallon of gasoline. So, you get about 38.5 miles to one gallon of milk.
However, milk tastes good. Gas smells bad.
Cycling, as an aerobic exercise, helps reduce the risk of heart disease and diabetes.
The average person consumes a few hundred extra calories without exercise, why not turn those into 6 miles of travel?
Don't take this too literally. Drinking that much milk has its own health problems. I just find it to be an incredibly good unit, since it's sold by the gallon.
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Keep in mind cars (and bikes) cost more than their fuel. The IRS considers it costs $.50/mi to drive a car. This would make a commute of 23 miles come out to $11.50 in cost. This includes the cost of the vehicle/depreciation, gas, insurance, etc. So if you avoid owning a car in favor of a bicycle, this is what you save.
What becomes VERY interesting is that for me to travel home from college, around 260 miles, I can buy a bus ticket for $50, which is FAR less than the $130 the IRS rate suggests. So without carpooling, buses/biking/whatever is cheaper for even long distances, unless you value your time relatively highly.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...176030,00.html
What becomes VERY interesting is that for me to travel home from college, around 260 miles, I can buy a bus ticket for $50, which is FAR less than the $130 the IRS rate suggests. So without carpooling, buses/biking/whatever is cheaper for even long distances, unless you value your time relatively highly.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...176030,00.html
It varies by car, I find this tool helpful. It's only useful for new cars, used cars are quite a bit cheaper due to less depreciation, lower licensing, etc.
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High fire alerts or not, we don't got a drought in New England. Really, ask the folks down south what a drought is if you don't believe me -- we're a long way from "serious hydrologic imbalance". BTW, I don't live in Boston, I just commute here. I live in the Berkshires of western Mass.
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If you want a high density energy source: olive oil. It is a fat. Fats normally have an energy density 10 times higher than any carbohydrates.
Before you start trying to connive that 'driving a car is cheaper than biking' trying including maintenance of the car or bike, and cost of full replacement.
Car: 13,000 base line Smart Car. Cheap and legal in the US.
Six oil changes in a year: $200
Change of tires: $300
Odds and ends repairs: $500 (average)
Insurance: $750 (lots of variance)
Annual operating (without gas): $1750
Bike: 1,000 reasonable bike of your choice.
Bike parts/maintenance: $500
Before you start trying to connive that 'driving a car is cheaper than biking' trying including maintenance of the car or bike, and cost of full replacement.
Car: 13,000 base line Smart Car. Cheap and legal in the US.
Six oil changes in a year: $200
Change of tires: $300
Odds and ends repairs: $500 (average)
Insurance: $750 (lots of variance)
Annual operating (without gas): $1750
Bike: 1,000 reasonable bike of your choice.
Bike parts/maintenance: $500
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I am cooking some more fuel
It was trucked from somewhere else to the store
Now it is turning into cyclist fuel
It was trucked from somewhere else to the store
Now it is turning into cyclist fuel
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All I know is that since I've been riding as much as I do, I've been hoovering up every baked good that comes within arms reach, I eat a dessert after every lunch and dinner, and I'm the thinnest I've ever been.
I'm 37 years old and waiting for this to all come to a sudden halt one of these years.
Just have to ride more, I guess.
I'm 37 years old and waiting for this to all come to a sudden halt one of these years.
Just have to ride more, I guess.
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if i had the money i'd spend about $350 a month on the best, most natural, whole organic foods. that's about $150 more a month than i spend now. so, $350 a month for the finest food vs whatever gawdawful amount one may spend on gas is a good investment IMO.
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I've read in several sources that the average american eats anywhere from 30-40% more calories on a daily basis then required. (which explains our overweight problems.) These simple statistics show you should be able to bike commute and cut down on food. A double savings.