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Old 06-04-08, 12:09 PM
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Opinions on new bike (not what you think)

So I need (wink, wink) a new bike.

As background, I commute 14 miles each way, each day, all year. The ride is mostly flat'ish, I have 300 ft up and 300 ft down over the total distance. Right now, I have a commuterized, hardtail, 1X9 MTB (Cannondale F500) and a Cannondale CAAD9 for the sunny, dry days. I can carry anything and every thing on the MTB and the road bike is more comfortable and faster overall. But, it carries nothing.

I am looking to buy something that has the best of both. It will be road style, have a rack, room for fenders, lights, wider'ish tires that are high pressure. Basically a high speed commuter/slow road bike.

So here is where I am looking for opinions, would you add a SS/FG or another 1X9 to the fleet? I have never tried a SS so I dont know what I'm missing (or getting myself into.) I do know that for this bike I have no use for a FD, so I made it that far.

I am not really looking for names but, if you think of something that would easily flip between the two (like daily kinda easily) I would like to hear about it.

What do you all think?
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Old 06-04-08, 12:17 PM
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best of both words, SS with internal 9sp hub.
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Old 06-04-08, 12:24 PM
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So something like a touring bike? The first thing that comes to mind is a Surly Long Haul Trucker, since that seems to be -the- favorite for that sort of use. But i'm sure there are others.
No input from me on gearing, I can't even visualize a ride that doesn't contain at least one instance of gaining 200-300+ feet in a single mile, not spread evenly over the distance. Accordingly, I sneer at anything that isn't 3x8, probably with some sort of ultra-low granny gearing.
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Old 06-04-08, 12:26 PM
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My commute is totally flat= Fixed steel IRO with panniers.
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Originally Posted by cdalefan View Post
So here is where I am looking for opinions, would you add a SS/FG or another 1X9 to the fleet? I have never tried a SS so I dont know what I'm missing (or getting myself into.) I do know that for this bike I have no use for a FD, so I made it that far.
How many cogs out of the 9 do you normally use? I was running a 1X8, but spent most of my time in only 2-3 of the cogs. I have since migrated to a SS (all weather) and a FG (nice weather). Occasionally, I spin out trying to draft a minivan or something, or wish I could downshift to push into a strong headwind, but for 99% of my commuting I really don't miss the extra ratios. The quiet simplicity is very rewarding.
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Old 06-04-08, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cdalefan View Post
So I need (wink, wink) a new bike.

As background, I commute 14 miles each way, each day, all year. The ride is mostly flat'ish, I have 300 ft up and 300 ft down over the total distance. Right now, I have a commuterized, hardtail, 1X9 MTB (Cannondale F500) and a Cannondale CAAD9 for the sunny, dry days. I can carry anything and every thing on the MTB and the road bike is more comfortable and faster overall. But, it carries nothing.

I am looking to buy something that has the best of both. It will be road style, have a rack, room for fenders, lights, wider'ish tires that are high pressure. Basically a high speed commuter/slow road bike.

So here is where I am looking for opinions, would you add a SS/FG or another 1X9 to the fleet? I have never tried a SS so I dont know what I'm missing (or getting myself into.) I do know that for this bike I have no use for a FD, so I made it that far.

I am not really looking for names but, if you think of something that would easily flip between the two (like daily kinda easily) I would like to hear about it.

What do you all think?
300 foot change is more than I face and I need my 7 speeds on my IGH Nexus hub. I'd get a 1x9 or an internal hub.

But, I'd look at replacing the MTB tires with thinner slicks and see what it does to your speed. I bet it improves nicely.
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Old 06-04-08, 01:00 PM
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Would you be willing to build your own?

IRO Rob Roy. I got one and threw a Nexus 8sp hub on it. Works great as a commuter, with fenders, rack, and lights. Currently running 28mm tires with plenty of room for larger. If I had a FG/SS wheel, I suppose I could swap over if I wanted, just by tying the shifter cable up somewhere out of the way, like zip-tying it to the chainstay.

If you prefer a 1x9 derailleur setup, go with the Surly Cross Check--the Pacer and LHT mentioned above have vertical dropouts, the X-Check has semi-horizontal which would work better if you want to swap over to SS/FG. Or the Steelwool Tweed frame w/ eccentric bb. Or the Salsa Casseroll
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Have you looked at the Salsa Casseroll? You can go SS/FG, derailleur, or internal gear.
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Old 06-04-08, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the ideas

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But, I'd look at replacing the MTB tires with thinner slicks and see what it does to your speed. I bet it improves nicely.
If I go any thinner than my 26X1" i might cut through the pavement with the weight, but I get the idea, thanks.

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Would you be willing to build your own?

IRO Rob Roy. I got one and threw a Nexus 8sp hub on it. Works great as a commuter, with fenders, rack, and lights. Currently running 28mm tires with plenty of room for larger. If I had a FG/SS wheel, I suppose I could swap over if I wanted, just by tying the shifter cable up somewhere out of the way, like zip-tying it to the chainstay.

If you prefer a 1x9 derailleur setup, go with the Surly Cross Check--the Pacer and LHT mentioned above have vertical dropouts, the X-Check has semi-horizontal which would work better if you want to swap over to SS/FG. Or the Steelwool Tweed frame w/ eccentric bb. Or the Salsa Casseroll
Is the Nexus 120mm? The IRO is the top of my SS list, but maybe the jamie roy.

And, Yup, the CC is the top of the list for the 1x9. I didn't think about it as a SS.

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How many cogs out of the 9 do you normally use? I was running a 1X8, but spent most of my time in only 2-3 of the cogs. I have since migrated to a SS (all weather) and a FG (nice weather). Occasionally, I spin out trying to draft a minivan or something, or wish I could downshift to push into a strong headwind, but for 99% of my commuting I really don't miss the extra ratios. The quiet simplicity is very rewarding.
I also only use 2 or 3. Thats why I think I can get away with a SS. i have riden the MTB in a 42X16 both ways and have to push a little more but I can get it done.
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I think the Cross Check would make a great single speed commuter. The horizontal dropouts will allow you to easily remove the wheels without messing with the fenders (which wouldn't be as easy with track ends), and it has rack bosses on it.
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I almost bought a cross check to build into a fixed commuter. I got an IRO markV instead to enjoy this california weather while I'm still here. Its red and I got a great deal on a barely used 2008 on ebay.

When I do my big move to Boulder I will get a cross check. Cross bike, commuter, tourer, ETC. Good for bad weather.
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Originally Posted by cdalefan View Post
Is the Nexus 120mm? The IRO is the top of my SS list, but maybe the jamie roy.
The nexus 8 is somewhere around 133mm (135 if you add the roller brake), which matches up perfectly with the Rob Roy's 132.5 spacing, like one was made for the other. Only thing you don't get out of the deal is the ability to go 1x9 if IGH or SS doesn't work out for you--no derailleur hanger on the RR.
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Originally Posted by cdalefan View Post
I am not really looking for names but, if you think of something that would easily flip between the two (like daily kinda easily) I would like to hear about it.

What do you all think?
You want to switch between SS and 1X9 daily? That sounds like a pain in the arse to me! Just set-up a 1X9 and on the days you want to run it SS, don't shift.
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get a 135mm like a surly 1x1 and put the nexus spacing to 135mm as well as get a 135mm spaced SS wheel.
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I don't really think of SS as fast bikes since you can go faster pushing a bigger gear. If your commute is mostly flat you might find that you can go faster when you have the option of a big chainring.

I'd go for something ranging from a touring bike to a sport-touring/club-racing bike or a cross bike with slick tires. My sister-in-law just bought a Jamis cross bike and put slick tires on it for her 22-mile round trip commute. She loves it. I'd go for something similar: A fast-ish bike with 700x27 tires and clearance for fenders, rack mounts, triple chainring, and drop handlebars raised to a comfortable height. It will be great for anything from light touring to fast road-riding and the occasional dirt/gravel road or trail.
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Thanks to everyone for the input.

I think I am still right were I startted, I "need" two new bikes! At the verry least, one bike and two wheels sets.

No I just have to decide which one is first-
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best of both words, SS with internal 9sp hub.
If it's got an internal 9 speed hub, how is it Single Speed?
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>I am looking to buy something that has the best of both. It will be road style, have a rack, room for fenders, lights, wider'ish tires that are high pressure. Basically a high speed commuter/slow road bike.

I'm really getting sick of replying "cyclocross" to every "what bike should I get" post. You just defined the thing, though "slow road bike" is being rude. Tricross sport with stock wheels for me, no real urge to get thinner wheels/tyres here.

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