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One of these links caused me to read about a jostle sensitivity alarm, I actually have one, forgot all about it. Funny enough I bought it back when I used to backpack, I set it to scare of any animals wanting to get into my pack. I'll have to look for it. Couldn't hurt to add to the current system, being that I already own it.
Anybody got any non-childhood experience with one? Is it a good idea, or will it just annoy the smokers? My workplace bike rack is right next to a smoke pit, which I like for the high traffic area part, I might lose a seat to a hot ash fire though, lol. I mean I don't want people damaging my bike because its annoying. Thoughts? |
Originally Posted by Dottywine
(Post 6896956)
Also, I am still confused. Is it good to put your bike with other bikes or is it good to put your bike by itself in a high traffic area?
But...someone on here put it best...if someone wants anything, they are going to take it...just like a car. With modern technology this holds even more true. There are small, powerful, cordless tools that someone can walk around with, saw off a lock so fast no one would ever even notice and be gone looking like it was their bike the whole time. I've always kept high end stereo components in my cars with this knowledge always in the back of my mind. It held true for me once. I had about 400 bucks worth of stereo equipment stolen out of my car with another ~500 bucks worth of damage done to my car in the process a few years ago and I STILL am paranoid about my car. It gets better but it won't go away, man. It is a horrible feeling and, more or less the sole reason I would never do something like this to someone. You just have to do what you can and you have gotten every good bit of advice on how to do just that that anyone could ever want in this thread. |
Originally Posted by EliteTempleton
(Post 6917808)
One of these links caused me to read about a jostle sensitivity alarm, I actually have one, forgot all about it. Funny enough I bought it back when I used to backpack, I set it to scare of any animals wanting to get into my pack. I'll have to look for it. Couldn't hurt to add to the current system, being that I already own it.
Anybody got any non-childhood experience with one? Is it a good idea, or will it just annoy the smokers? My workplace bike rack is right next to a smoke pit, which I like for the high traffic area part, I might lose a seat to a hot ash fire though, lol. I mean I don't want people damaging my bike because its annoying. Thoughts? |
I agree with getting a beater bike at Goodwill or a garage sale for under $100. And don't get the bike that looks nice, get a crappy looking one, or make it crappy looking; and don't clean it.
As far as locking goes, I understand the idea behind a small U Bolt being harder to pry but with those you can only lock the rear wheel and the stay to a post. In reality the better way to do it is to get a U lock that is long enough so you can take the front wheel off move it to the rear alongside the rear wheel and lock the front, rear wheel and stay to a post with very little space on the lock left over. If the U lock as very little space left after the bike is locked in this manner prying is still difficult. Then get a second lock, either a large diameter cable or better yet a heavy chain, and lock the entire bike wheels and frame using a Discus lock because those leaver no room for a bolt cutter to get at the shackle. Use cheap components so they won't hopefully steal those. |
Originally Posted by Dottywine
(Post 6898200)
I didn't think people would care that a bike is being stolen, but I just meant that in a high traffic area, there is more chance for a police man to see it, right?
At my school the police is always there so bikes are rarely stolen. DART is supposed to have police every now and then. Ernest |
Originally Posted by whatsmyname
(Post 6911551)
On uglifying, Lifehacker has a post about this today: http://lifehacker.com/396527/ugly-yo...-deter-thieves
You don't need a special tool to bust open (many) U-locks - you just need a pole, the longer the better, and a space to jam it in and use as a lever. You don't put an extension chain/cable on to secure a wheel in case the frame gets stolen, you do it to stop the wheel being stolen on its own. It's like putting window locks on a bank: if the thief can blow crack the safe, the window locks aren't going to stop them. But at least it's going to stop the casual burglars. There are two types of thieves, more or less: casual/opportunistic thieves that go after whatever is lying around and poorly secured who don't really have a clear idea of costs or brands and just want a cheap buck, and there are professional bike thieves who know what everything costs, see through camouflage, and know how to get around expensive locks. You can "outlock" or inconvenience the first type, but not the second. Luckily, there are many of the first but few of the second. |
Originally Posted by amjones
(Post 6914887)
Dottie, which station was the bike stolen from? A friend of mine had his bike taken from Galatyn Park a few weeks ago -- no U-lock, just a cable lock. He also said it was not a particularly nice bike, I guess they'll steal anything.
I normally bring my bike on the train but in the evening it can be tough because the trains are so full. Also, I understand that if someone really wants something they will take it. I am really tired of getting locking advice that consists of "Get a lock. It doesn't matter because if they want it they will take it." I lock my dorm room, but if someone really wanted to get into my dorm, they will get into it. This is a fact of life about everything. Stop using it as a replacement of actual advice. That is my opinion.But also thanks for the advice that you did put there. Also, I did not leave my bike over night. I put it there at 6 pm and came back at 12 am. Also, I don't understand skewers still (to whoever was trying to explain them. I don't understand what skewers do, so telling me about the different kinds confused me a bit). Thanks for telling me HOW a Ulock is broken into. I was wondering wtf everyone meant by "leverage". |
If you use the same DART station consider renting a bike locker from DART.
http://www.dart.org/riding/bike.asp Also you can take your bike on DART anytime as long as their is room, and by year end they will have racks on all the busses. |
Originally Posted by Dottywine
(Post 6934851)
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Also, I don't understand skewers still (to whoever was trying to explain them. I don't understand what skewers do, so telling me about the different kinds confused me a bit). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Quick_release_ad.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_release_skewer If this is still unclear visit your local bike shop and ask someone to show you how it works. |
Our cities are literally infested with drug addicts, these people need money even if it is just a couple of bucks. Myself I wouldn't bother leaving something I care about at a train station but... if I had to I would get a beater specifically for it. Ideally it would be a dumpster bike with only enough maintenence to make it rideable. A couple of heafty locks, but I wouldn't worry to much about them: they are only to keep the honest people honest. When parking your bike be sure to take all attatchments with you.
I park mine on a college campus and my criteria for location are in order of most important to least: secure lockage, cover from rain, bikes worth more than mine, bikes not as well locked as mine, observable from my destination, no car traffic, lots of foot traffic I would never leave a valuable or semi-valuable bike out in the open at night. Never underestimate the tornado of destruction that is a bored teenager. They won't try to steal your bike, they will just destroy what they can (tacoing the rear wheel seems popular). I would avoid using your renters insurance to cover a small claim like a bike, you'll regret it when you go to get homeowners insurance and they give you a higher rate because of a claim history. |
Originally Posted by Dottywine
(Post 6934846)
Can't they cut through the cable, though, just like you can cut through a chain lock?
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Originally Posted by freako
(Post 6952630)
Whoa boy; cables are easier to cut then chains especially those heavy chains from Krypto. The problem here is that if you’re already locking the bike with a U-Bolt do you really need to be lugging around a heavy chain as well? Not necessarily, a thick cable would also work because it requires a second tool to cut the cable that most thieves are not going to bother carrying, but you need a lock that would hinder cutting the shackle like the Discus.
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Originally Posted by freako
(Post 6919546)
I agree with getting a beater bike at Goodwill or a garage sale for under $100. And don't get the bike that looks nice, get a crappy looking one, or make it crappy looking; and don't clean it.
As far as locking goes, I understand the idea behind a small U Bolt being harder to pry but with those you can only lock the rear wheel and the stay to a post. In reality the better way to do it is to get a U lock that is long enough so you can take the front wheel off move it to the rear alongside the rear wheel and lock the front, rear wheel and stay to a post with very little space on the lock left over. If the U lock as very little space left after the bike is locked in this manner prying is still difficult. Then get a second lock, either a large diameter cable or better yet a heavy chain, and lock the entire bike wheels and frame using a Discus lock because those leaver no room for a bolt cutter to get at the shackle. Use cheap components so they won't hopefully steal those. ------------------------------------------------ Remember, if it's not a scientific law then it's a theory, and if it's a theory then all theory is taken on faith, just as God is. |
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