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one_beatnik 06-15-08 02:45 PM

OK, so from the definitions given so far, I'm either a roadie with a commuting problem, a commuter who's a cross dresser, or just confused. I think I'm mainly just a cyclist. I ride the roads wearing lycra (hey it's functional!), I ride some MUPs, I have a road bike, I pull a BOB and tour, I run errands on the bike, I don't run into other bikes...ever...well I did have a dude pass me Thursday evening on my commute. He didn't talk to me even when I said Hi, but I found out later he was hammering training for a triathalon coming up. He's the first bicyclist I've ever seen on my commute in 3 years. It gets lonely, but not by my choice.

A rose is a rose I guess.

tomg 06-15-08 02:53 PM

i am a (VB) Bicyclist!

i am a "roadie" (cannondale sx600)
i tour (b/nash 6000t)
i commute (performance vitesse)
i mtb (raleigh technium)
i have been "bent with bikeE ct (have broken sweet-seat, needs welds)

hold your lane and spin safe!

t

Hickeydog 06-15-08 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 6885721)
A roadie is a person who rides a road bicycle on the road. Simple.

I am a roadie. I'm also a commuter, a cycletourist, and a randonneur.

FINALLY someone makes a post that has an ounce of sense.

charles vail 06-15-08 04:36 PM

o.k.
 
Thanks folks........just wanted to get a feel for your definitions, since one was done regarding the proverbial 'Fred'. I suppose I fit somewhere in between. I ride a Single speed commuter to work, a tour bike on group rides, a vintage racing show bike, on sunny days only , a performance recumbent because its fun and fast and finally a mustache bar 'road' bike because I always wanted to try those bars and they are nice in heavy traffic. All but one have drop bars (except the recumbent) and all but one has fenders. I ride in sandals mostly with no retention and wear wool but I own and use Lycra shorts on long, hot, rides. I like to ride fast and usually push myself since thats what I am used to from years of riding short 10 mile one way commutes. Sixty miles is a long day for me these days but I'm old and fat and don't particularly have the time to train for anything much longer. Not sure where I fit in but really, I could care less. ;) :roflmao2:

I-Like-To-Bike 06-15-08 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Treespeed (Post 6886237)
Example of a roadie "woofing" post please?

Two for the price of one, a Father's Day Special, just for you! :)

http://67.201.16.77/showpost.php?p=6792841&postcount=76

http://67.201.16.77/showpost.php?p=6795957&postcount=86

I-Like-To-Bike 06-15-08 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Rex G (Post 6886132)
Mountie? :)

Sexie?

Jarery 06-15-08 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by charles vail (Post 6883878)
I always ride on the road and rarely off road. I put in enough miles in the last few years to wear out three sets of tires. I don't race nor do I wear the racer costume. Am I not a road rider/roadie also? What defines a roadie?

The fact that you refer to apparel appropriate to a specific task as a 'costume' means your not a roadie, your a fred :p

It reminds me of when im doing 4 man and 8 man skydiving competitions, people ask how many 'tricks' were doing in the 30 second time limit.....

aley 06-15-08 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 6885721)
A roadie is a person who rides a road bicycle on the road. Simple.

I am a roadie. I'm also a commuter, a cycletourist, and a randonneur.

+1. I got (back) into riding road bikes in the early '90s, when mountain bikes were just about all you could find in the local shops and nobody seemed to want to admit that they'd ever ridden a bike with drop bars. I called myself a roadie then, because it was a more accurate way to describe what I did than saying I was a cyclist (which, at the time, would have carried the presumption that I rode a mountain bike). Just because Lance won a few Tours, road bikes became fashionable again (much to my chagrin - I hate doing things that are fashionable!), and you started seeing pacelines of riders wearing matching jerseys and shorts in team colors, doesn't change what I am.

Pig_Chaser 06-16-08 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Rex G (Post 6886132)
Mountie? :)

Watch out, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police are known to sue for copyright infringement.

Pig_Chaser 06-16-08 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 6885721)
A roadie is a person who rides a road bicycle on the road. Simple.

I am a roadie. I'm also a commuter, a cycletourist, and a randonneur.

Not buying it. I commute on a road bike. A road bike equipped with rack and pannier, trunk rack and a home-brew LED lighting system front and back. My helmet has a mirror attached. My favorite 'cycling wear' is the costco convertible cargo pants. I'm no roadie, i'm a Fred.

garysol1 06-16-08 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Pig_Chaser (Post 6884359)
Roadies wear the complete costume, roadies ride high end road bikes, roadies don't wave back... but you should always smile and wave at them, they love it.

Posers (poseurs) share all the above qualities except i can drop them, a roadie not so much.

I wear the "costume"..... I ride a high end bike.....I am very competitive on the bike.....I ride a couple hundred miles every week... if someone is having a mechanical I always stop to lend assist..I ALWAYS WAVE and usually the firstwave. Am I a roadie? We really need to stop stereotyping riders. Not everyone fits into a nice neat little catagory. There are commuters who never wave back and thats there choice. No need to bash them over it.

CCrew 06-16-08 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Treespeed (Post 6886237)
And oh the humanity when a "roadie" won't wave at you. How many motorists do you wave at when your driving? If your so set on being noticed and acknowledged by a group of roadies then join a club.

Sounds like a "roadie" response to me. Kinda like "Why should I, no one else does".

Google "Jeep Wave" or ride with some motorcyclists. You'll see about acknowledging someone else that shares a common passion. It's just that in most "roadies" case that passion seems to be themselves.

Personally, I ride a MTB. They don't wave or acknowledge one I give them the one finger salute! :lol::lol::lol:

Jarery 06-16-08 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by CCrew (Post 6889274)
Google "Jeep Wave" or ride with some motorcyclists. You'll see about acknowledging someone else that shares a common passion. It's just that in most "roadies" case that passion seems to be themselves.

Personally, I ride a MTB. They don't wave or acknowledge one I give them the one finger salute! :lol::lol::lol:

Oh you ride a mtb on the streets.. Try riding a moped and then wave at the motorcyclists, i bet not as many wave back :p

HardyWeinberg 06-16-08 10:25 AM

I think of a roadie as a 'fitness biker' not someone who wants to get anywhere. Athletic owner of one LBS told me he was more of a fitness biker than a utility biker in framing what kind of services his shop might be able to provide (it's not a good place to bring a daily driver if you need a repair quickly).

aley 06-16-08 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by CCrew (Post 6889274)
Google "Jeep Wave" or ride with some motorcyclists. You'll see about acknowledging someone else that shares a common passion. It's just that in most "roadies" case that passion seems to be themselves.

Heh. Try riding a sportbike and see how many cruiser riders wave, or vice versa.

Better yet, try riding a moped on a bike path and see how many Freds wave. :D

Treespeed 06-16-08 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 6886923)

Links no workie.

Treespeed 06-16-08 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by CCrew (Post 6889274)
Sounds like a "roadie" response to me. Kinda like "Why should I, no one else does".

Google "Jeep Wave" or ride with some motorcyclists. You'll see about acknowledging someone else that shares a common passion. It's just that in most "roadies" case that passion seems to be themselves.

Personally, I ride a MTB. They don't wave or acknowledge one I give them the one finger salute! :lol::lol::lol:

I wave to plenty of people, but I don't go for a ride to wave at people. I wave to the regulars I see on my commute, sidewalk cyclists and roadies alike. But when I'm out on a fast ride on the weekends I easily pass 100+ cyclists. I'm riding to work my legs, not my arms. But I'll always say, "Hello" to anyone I pass or that passes me.

Someone who feels the need to flip off other riders because they don't wave at them has a few issues to be sure. After a bit of time you need to ask, "maybe it's me?"

caloso 06-16-08 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Rex G (Post 6885336)
Looking at it from the outside, I don't think there is a distinct line separating roadies from cyclists who just ride road bicycles on the road, but just as with everything from running to kayaking, there will be a group who see themselves as truly serious and elite. They will see those will all the latest and greatest gear, but who are not in top physical shape, as posers, or poseurs. Even roadies seem unable to agree on the definition of a Fred.

There is even a book out now, on Roadies. I found it entertaining, and learned some things about the Roadie culture. I know I cannot be a true Roadie, with my current job and schedule, because I cannot get enough sleep to recover from the intensity level of training rides needed to be a true Roadie. I also tend to like retro bikes, without the latest/greatest gruppos, and wear looser pants and shorts over my lycra most of the time, so I don't look like a Roadie. A Roadie would be likely to see me as a Fred. For that matter, I am not a commuter, either, but I learn much from reading this part of BF, keeping up to date on commuting issues, finding stuff relevant to my police patrol job. (I may start commuting in cooler weather, if I can build a rig that will discreetly haul all of my equipment back and forth; discretion is an issue, with a shotgun and perhaps a rifle being part of that equipment.)

When I lived by the water, I guess I would have been the sea kayaking equivalent of a Roadie, as I have a very fast boat, three high-end paddles, and had a very low resting pulse of about 40, indicating a quite high level of fitness at the time. (You paddle with your whole body, not just the arms.) Before my knees wore out, I was a serious runner, too. Perhaps, someday, I will have the time to get enough rest to recover from cycling workouts, and can aspire to being a Roadie. If they don't like my choice of pants, though, they might still see me as a Fred. As if I care. :) I want belt loops and pockets.

http://www.amazon.com/Roadie-Misunde...3641371&sr=8-1

You may, or may not, know that this was written by a BF member. He posts under the name of EventServices and hangs out in the Road and Road Racing forums, naturally.

CastIron 06-16-08 12:55 PM

A roadie is what I do on the weekends.
Commuter is what I do when I'm going somewhere with something to do.

Either way I'm the same dude on a bike.

Treespeed 06-16-08 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by CastIron (Post 6891001)
A roadie is what I do on the weekends.
Commuter is what I do when I'm going somewhere with something to do.

Either way I'm the same dude on a bike.

+1

rando 06-16-08 01:15 PM

Roadies are the guys who move amps for rock bands.
those guys who dress up in special clothes and ride in a pack? Dorks.

tjspiel 06-16-08 01:50 PM

I commute on a road bike and ride in a couple of triathlons a year but don't consider myself a "roadie". There's a whole roadie subculture and since I don't really participate in that culture at all, I don't count myself as one of them. I've got nothing against roadies and all that's really standing in the way of my considering myself one is starting to do regular club rides. I may or may not ever do that.

By the same token, a lot of people might call me a Catholic since I regularly attend a Catholic church (though it's a very liberal one), went to a Catholic school, and was even an alter boy. But I believe that significant parts of the Bible are pretty much fiction, or at best a bad translation, so I don't consider myself a Catholic.

DataJunkie 06-16-08 02:03 PM

Our incessant need for labels is bordering on the point of ridiculousness. My answer is "who cares?".

capolover 06-16-08 04:50 PM

I ride a single speed.
Always on the road.
23 miles to work to save money, stick it to the man, and get in better shape.
I don't wear super hero outfits.
I nod and smile.
I got fast and coast.

On the weekend I have tight jeans and bright white shoes baby!

What's that make me?

And please don't say, "gay" that demeans us both.

CCrew 06-16-08 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Treespeed (Post 6890236)
Someone who feels the need to flip off other riders because they don't wave at them has a few issues to be sure. After a bit of time you need to ask, "maybe it's me?"


That's ok, y'all never see it because you're so self absorbed :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

CCrew 06-16-08 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by aley (Post 6890006)
Heh. Try riding a sportbike and see how many cruiser riders wave, or vice versa.

That's ok. If you're on a donorcycle I want ya to keep both hands on the bars...:p:p:p:p:p:p

caloso 06-16-08 05:32 PM

Okay, enough with the scooter talk. Go to VespaForums.net if you want to arge about that.

Anyway, what I find amusing and wrong about this whole thread is the premise that Those People Wearing Lycra aren't commuters.

Go to the Road Racing forum and do a search on mileage. Those guys are posting some pretty high figures. Most of them work and have families. How do you think they're able to get in the kind of mileage necessary to be competitive if not for riding to work?

Longfemur 06-16-08 05:38 PM

Maybe "roadies' don't wave because they are aren't newbies, and seeing some other person on a bike is not a big deal.

DataJunkie 06-16-08 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by capolover (Post 6892548)
On the weekend I have tight jeans and bright white shoes baby!

What's that make me?

And please don't say, "gay" that demeans us both.

How about the Scissor Sisters?
Or a hipster with saddle sores?
or....
you got me. How about a bicycle rider? Does that work for you?

capolover 06-16-08 06:01 PM

I prefer cyclist.


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