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Commuters on the sidewalk.
I see guys with helmets and full commuting gear on the goddamn sidewalk. It pisses me off for several reasons.
1. Other motorists will be encouraged to think that bikes shouldn't be on the road. "Why aren't you on the sidewalk like that guy?" 2. Why would you have so much gear and put the time into a bike, but not ever ride in the road? 3. Its illegal and dangerous for everybody. 4. They look like little pricks. So what attitude should I have? I guess I should pull over and encourage them to try the road, but I don't have the time. Usually I just feel disgust and want to ignore their presence. Does that make me a jerk? Yes it does. |
Advocacy and Safety.
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Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894492)
I see guys with helmets and full commuting gear on the goddamn sidewalk. It pisses me off for several reasons.
1. Other motorists will be encouraged to think that bikes shouldn't be on the road. "Why aren't you on the sidewalk like that guy?" 2. Why would you have so much gear and put the time into a bike, but not ever ride in the road? 3. Its illegal and dangerous for everybody. 4. They look like little pricks. I guess I should pull over and encourage them to try the road, but I don't have the time. Usually I just feel disgust and want to ignore their presence. |
The internet is all about exaggeration.
It is annoying though, like a lip smacker at lunch. |
Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894549)
The internet is all about exaggeration.
It is annoying though, like a lip smacker at lunch. |
Better that they are on the sidewalk than going the wrong way in traffic / bike lane or riding on the street at night with out lights.
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I admit I do take the sidewalk occasionally but sometimes it's a little safer for me. I am still trying to build up my endurance so that I can go at a decent speed for road riding.
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The sidewalk makes me paranoid. It's just so small and confining to me.
Taking the lane in a responsible and friendly fashion is so easy and safe, and you feel great doing it. |
sometimes i am just playing around and i ride up the sidewalk so i can ride of the edge of a curb...just testing my skills, but yeah those peoples who ride on sidewalks should really give the road a try
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Can I ride on a MUP, or just roads?
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wherever you like
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Originally Posted by Mendel
(Post 6894599)
Better that they are on the sidewalk than going the wrong way in traffic / bike lane or riding on the street at night with out lights.
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What if they are going the wrong way on the sidewalk without light at night?
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it begins
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When I cross over I-40 just after my bus terminal shortcut, I ride "wrong way" on the MUP [is there such a thing?] for about a block and then cross over. I know it's legal, but it feels awkward going against traffic, even on the path. It used to bother me more to see people riding on the sidewalk instead of the road. Now I guess I feel that "whatever gets you there" will work. I've got redneck drivers in Excursions to direct my attention to. Besides, who is walking on the sidewalks around here these days? If the sidewalks had burger & biscuit stands, and cigarette machines, they'd be packed!
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Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894813)
What if they are going the wrong way on the sidewalk without light at night?
Take them under your wing and train them in the ways of the force. :) |
Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894813)
What if they are going the wrong way on the sidewalk without light at night?
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Originally Posted by mangosalsa
(Post 6894838)
When I cross over I-40 just after my bus terminal shortcut, I ride "wrong way" on the MUP [is there such a thing?] for about a block and then cross over. I know it's legal, but it feels awkward going against traffic, even on the path. It used to bother me more to see people riding on the sidewalk instead of the road. Now I guess I feel that "whatever gets you there" will work. I've got redneck drivers in Excursions to direct my attention to. Besides, who is walking on the sidewalks around here these days? If the sidewalks had burger & biscuit stands, and cigarette machines, they'd be packed!
There weren't even that many cars on the road. Not to mention Hillsborough street is full of walking students for miles. Just because you don't live in a proper city... haha. |
Around here it's legal to cycle on the sidewalk, you just have to follow the same rules as pedestrians and give way to pedestrians. If someone is more comfortable doing that, why should anyone else care?
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Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894691)
The sidewalk makes me paranoid. It's just so small and confining to me.
Taking the lane in a responsible and friendly fashion is so easy and safe, and you feel great doing it. Get over it. And it doesn't matter if motorists see cyclists riding on the sidewalk or on the road, they are still going to think all cyclists should be riding on the sidewalk. |
Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894492)
2. Why would you have so much gear and put the time into a bike, but not ever ride in the road?
3. Its illegal and dangerous for everybody. Chapter 85, Section 11B. Bicycles; operation and equipment; regulations; federal product safety standards, effect; races; violations; penalties Every person operating a bicycle upon a way, as defined in section one of chapter ninety, shall have the right to use all public ways in the Commonwealth except limited access or express state highways where signs specifically prohibiting bicycles have been posted, and shall be subject to the traffic laws and regulations of the Commonwealth and the special regulations contained in the section, except that: (1) the bicycle operator may keep to the right when passing a motor vehicle which is moving in the travel lane of the way, (2) the bicycle operator shall signal by either hand his intention to stop or turn, and (3) bicycles may be ridden on sidewalks outside business districts when necessary in the interest of safety, unless otherwise directed by local ordinance. A person operating a bicycle on the sidewalk shall yield the right of way to pedestrians and give an audible signal before overtaking and passing any pedestrian. 4. They look like little pricks. |
Originally Posted by jaa1085
(Post 6894892)
Maybe it feel's great to you, but some people are just not comfortable riding in the road.
Get over it. And it doesn't matter if motorists see cyclists riding on the sidewalk or on the road, they are still going to think all cyclists should be riding on the sidewalk. It's illegal, unsafe, and a bad idea. If you don't feel comfortable riding in the road you shouldn't commute to work on a bike. |
Originally Posted by capolover
(Post 6894862)
Just because you don't live in a proper city... haha.
I ride in Chapel Hill a lot, and the police in there will "shoo" bicycles off the sidewalk. What are the rules over there in Raleighwood? |
Originally Posted by cycle2work
(Post 6894904)
Because you see someone on the sidewalk at one particular moment, you assume they don't ever ride on the road?
Perfectly legal in the state of Massachusetts under certain conditions: Chapter 85, Section 11B. Bicycles; operation and equipment; regulations; federal product safety standards, effect; races; violations; penalties Every person operating a bicycle upon a way, as defined in section one of chapter ninety, shall have the right to use all public ways in the Commonwealth except limited access or express state highways where signs specifically prohibiting bicycles have been posted, and shall be subject to the traffic laws and regulations of the Commonwealth and the special regulations contained in the section, except that: (1) the bicycle operator may keep to the right when passing a motor vehicle which is moving in the travel lane of the way, (2) the bicycle operator shall signal by either hand his intention to stop or turn, and (3) bicycles may be ridden on sidewalks outside business districts when necessary in the interest of safety, unless otherwise directed by local ordinance. A person operating a bicycle on the sidewalk shall yield the right of way to pedestrians and give an audible signal before overtaking and passing any pedestrian. Please elaborate. Do you mean they're actually dressed like small penises? Do you have any pictures? 1. If they are on the sidewalk in one of the safest areas of the city where tons of people walk around, then yes.......I assume they don't have a working brain or just too scared/selfish to get out of the way. As I get into Cary and it turns into a single lane of roaring death I could understand it... but 4 lanes of wide road and lots of people.........get the hell off the sidewalk. 2. Well it's illegal in NC and it reinforces peoples ignorance. 3. Yes. With big hairy balls because they are going on at about .5 miles per hour getting in everybodies way with their massive saddle bags. |
Sidewalk riders outnumber street riders at least 20 to 1 in my city.
It bothers me too. Not so much when I'm riding, but when I'm walking. Sidewalk cyclists are annoying to pedestrians and sometimes even dangerous. I feel like yelling "Get on the streeet!" |
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