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ratell 07-18-08 02:07 PM

3x1?
 
So, this is probably a stupid question, but does 3 gears in front and 1 in back not work?

You see lots of single speeds and some people do the 1x9. Most of my commute I'm happy to sit in one gear. Every now and again I go on the big ring and go fast for fun, and sometimes I take on the huge hill and drop down into my granny. I'd be happy with three gears if the range was good. Is that not possible with 3 x1?

AEO 07-18-08 02:12 PM

well, for one, you can already get a 3speed with none of the problems of a 3x1.

mikey71469 07-18-08 02:14 PM

i don't see why not. my mountain bike is a 2x1, (middle & granny chainrings), & it works great. there's no reason you couldn't use 3 chainrings. the only problem you may have is chain length. (making it not too short in the big ring, & not too long in the granny). go for it!

caloso 07-18-08 02:18 PM

Chain length, or rather capacity to take up chain in the two smaller rings would be an issue. Since you'd still have to have a RD or chain tensioner to accomplish that, it would be much simpler to go 1x3.

Actually, now that I think this through a little, it would be really simple and easy to keep the 8, 9, or 10 speeds in back. Lots of CX bikes do this.

modernjess 07-18-08 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 7087915)
Chain length, or rather capacity to take up chain in the two smaller rings would be an issue. Since you'd still have to have a RD or chain tensioner to accomplish that, it would be much simpler to go 1x3.

+1 yeah, 3 x 1 wont work.

Podolak 07-18-08 02:36 PM

I think you really lose the advantages of a single speed by going 3x1 and don't gain much advantage. You are better off running a wide range cog set in the back and a single ring in the front.

tjspiel 07-18-08 02:43 PM

As mentioned previously you'd need a chain tensioner to take up the slack when you go from the big chainring to the small. Otherwise it would work. It's not a bad thought because it gives you some options over a pure single speed.

Personally though from a shifting standpoint I much prefer rear derailleurs. They seem to shift quicker and smoother.

JeffS 07-18-08 02:59 PM

Yea, it would work, but if you're going to have a tensioner anyway (as you would have to), you might as well have a dérailleur.

Personally, I'd much rather have a 1xX, assuming the bike allowed it.

tkblazer 07-18-08 03:15 PM

you can go 2x1 with the use of a paul melvin tensioner if your frame has a hanger

tjspiel 07-18-08 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by tkblazer (Post 7088302)
you can go 2x1 with the use of a paul melvin tensioner if your frame has a hanger

Yeah, that thing is like $70 though. Nevertheless, it brings up a good point. You need a tensioner with a long enough throw, - like a mid to long cage derailleur (if you want a 3 X 1).

ratell 07-18-08 11:26 PM

Thanks for the replies. I figured there was a simple reason it wasn't worth doing.

huhenio 07-19-08 12:49 AM

2x10 is better ... trust me

charles vail 07-19-08 01:28 AM

double double or 'Double D'
 

Originally Posted by ratell (Post 7087827)
So, this is probably a stupid question, but does 3 gears in front and 1 in back not work?

You see lots of single speeds and some people do the 1x9. Most of my commute I'm happy to sit in one gear. Every now and again I go on the big ring and go fast for fun, and sometimes I take on the huge hill and drop down into my granny. I'd be happy with three gears if the range was good. Is that not possible with 3 x1?

I have a dual front chain ring 36x39 and dual rear cog two speed ( White Industries 16-19) with a 15 inch spread 50 & 65 inch, which works fine for me. Any combo of three teeth apart works without a long rear dropout and is fine on standard horizontal drop outs with no change in axle position. This gives me a modest roller/flat gear and a lower gear for headwinds and hillier sections. On my commute it works perfectly. I do spin out the 65 often but I can cruise at 15-18 mph with ease and have hit 25 mph in a sprint through intersection light changes. No need for a tensioner. A Rivendell Quickbeam is another real nice deraileurless bike with the option of a 28 inch spread in gearing when using a two speed freewheel and another gear on the flip side. The long rear dropouts allow easy chain tension without a tensioning device. :50::speedy:


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