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Originally Posted by treebound (Post 7150059)

I can only think of a few options:

2. As others have mentioned, play up the bicycle friendly approach to encourage more people to bicycle to the mall. The backfire to this is if they require employees to park in the outermost reaches of the parking lot then they might now want employees using the storeside bicycle racks.

You bring up a good point here, if employee's are to park far away from the entrance, then why would one be expected, when arriving by bicycle, to park right next to the doors?

Maybe you could get some bike lockers put in at the FAR side of the parking lot? :roflmao2:

But really, one could argue that parking there would take up space that is reserved for customers, no?

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Originally Posted by thdave (Post 7150277)

One argument is that you save the mall a parking spot. That's got to be good for something.

If others did the same, that benefit might be substantial.

Agree.

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Originally Posted by TromboneAl (Post 7150697)

Brainstorming other ideas: Do you need to park at the mall itself? Maybe there's a secure location a few blocks away. Is there a police station within walking distance -- always a nice place to lock your bike.

Win for out side the box thinking!

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Originally Posted by iPirate (Post 7151704)

you must have missed the youtube video of the guy stealing his own bike in new york using a bunch of different methods. people didnt bother him, one person even helped him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNTq3nhuh0

The day I saw that video was the day I decided it was worth it to carry my bike up the stairs with me and park it in my cube with me. Before that I used to think: It's safe here behind this employee only gate. While it is true that it is safer there than the alternatives many have at their workplace, I like knowing I have a ride home at the end of the day 100%. Plus it's safe from the daily vandal's of mother nature's furies! lol

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Originally Posted by TromboneAl (Post 7158051)

In the past, I would have said that this is a bad idea, since it gives the thief a nice hidden location to work on defeating your lock. However, after seeing the videos of a guy stealing his own bike by spending six minutes sawing through a lock on a busy sidewalk with no interference, makes me not so sure.

Yup, changes your perspective a bit doesn't it? :twitchy::eek:

This wouldn't be in a stair or other means of egress would it? Even one that appears to be unused? Are any of the pipes painted red? - a lot of sprinkler pipes are. Yes I know, you see stuff stored at the bottoms of stairs all the time - however, it is illegal (per your building or fire code) to store anything in a stair. Fire Marshals and Building Inspectors usually are the ones enforcing it. The more public (or used by the public) a building is, the more likely they will show up and enforce it.
The pipes could also (based on so little information supplied) be electrical conduits, and likely lead to the same scenario.
Try to work with security, they might actually try to help you find a safe place for your bike. Or not.
Good luck!

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Originally Posted by ThreLittleBirds (Post 7161318)

I do not understand why some bikers believe employers should go out of their way to accommodate the storage of a bike. Asking for a special locker just for you is akin to asking for a personal parking garage becuase you want to drive your Lamborghini to work.

On the flip side, why should employers go out of their way to provide parking spots for cars driven by their employees? That's like asking for a personal driveway just because you want to bring your car to work. Parking lots cost money to maintain and it's additional land businesses must lease/purchase. Businesses could save a lot of money by either doing away with employee parking or by only providing spots designed for Smart cars instead of full size vehicles...nothing over 5 feet wide! And while we are at it, what's this crap with employees thinking they need "health insurance." Waste-o-money if you ask me. (this is sarcasm)

Cycling is a viable mode of transportation...providing a safe place to park your vehicle (i.e. bike) isn't asking too much, as a matter of fact, it's starting to become status quo in many places, like it should be.