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Old 07-29-08, 01:21 AM   #1
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Big Dummy by Surly -- where to get

I ordered through Jenson and so far no email from them yet. How is the Kona alternative even though it is not Xtracycle compatible?

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Surly is distributed by Quality Bike Parts so any LBS that deals with them should be able to order it in. The Big Dummy is still in high demand at the moment so demand is exceeding supply. There's another bunch of frames in stock at QBP as of this week (see the Surly Blog) and some more coming at the end of August. Hope this helps.
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I'm torn between the Kona Ute and an Xtracycle. I was thinking about the Big Dummy, but it's going to weigh a ton and for $895 doesn't come with any of the Xtracycle accessories [add on another $350 for those]. The Kona Ute would do just fine equipped with a couple of wire basket panniers and a milk crate. I was also thinking about the intended use - shopping. Do I want to lug 150 lbs of cat litter and frozen chicken home from Safeway? Maybe. Will my wife want me to give her rides all the time? Likely. I was also looking at getting a trailer, which would run me closer to $250 with a 100 lbs weight range, and can go on any bike I own. My birthday is coming up, and I should really decide...
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The 2008 Ute only comes in one frame size, but I think for 2009 there will be 20" and 18" versions.

Check the utility cycling forum here for more info.
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Unless you ordered the last remaining 16" frame Jenson had sitting around, you'll be waiting for a while.

They're sold out until the next shipment arrives. I forget when that's actually going to be.
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I was also looking at getting a trailer, which would run me closer to $250 with a 100 lbs weight range, and can go on any bike I own.
That's precisely what I decided. While the BD is really cool, or I could get a beater MTB on craigslist and outfit it with a conversion, do I really need all the extra weight all the time? Does anyone have the weight specs on the BD? (I can't find them anywhere.)

I know that a Burley Nomad is 14.5 pounds empty, has a cargo limit of 100 pounds (much lower than the BD) but trades the cargo limit for a waterproof enclosure (which you don't have on the Freeloader.)
Drawbacks: handling with a trailer can be tricky, especially downhill. Less of a problem on the BD since it's an unhinged long wheelbase.
Benefits: Waterproof, removeable/swappable on bikes.


That said; OP, check at www.bikeman.com if they still have the BD frame in stock.
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That said; OP, check at www.bikeman.com if they still have the BD frame in stock.
No, they do not.
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JeffS, do you know if the new shipment is going to still be $895 for the frame/fork, or are they already raising the prices (steel/transport costs, etc.) to the proposed $1050?
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I've pulled about 50 pounds in a trailer down a pretty steep hill and noticed no handling issues. (camping gear in a kid trailer.)

I'm also torn being getting an older mountain bike and an xtracycle kit versus going trailer. But the more I research the options considering my actual needs, the trailer is probably the better the route.
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Clifton, the price seems to have gone up to $1050 already. http://www.surlybikes.com/surlyblog.html Second post down Friday July 25.

I'm pretty sure all the old stock has been wiped out...
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I was also looking at getting a trailer, which would run me closer to $250 with a 100 lbs weight range, and can go on any bike I own. My birthday is coming up, and I should really decide...
I would lean toward a cargo bike, at least our trailer w/ 100# limit is showing a fair bit of sag (wheels canting inward at the top).
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I would lean toward a cargo bike, at least our trailer w/ 100# limit is showing a fair bit of sag (wheels canting inward at the top).
I saw a messenger on a cargo bike whipping through downtown today. The front bucket looked like it could hold two people plus a case of beer and a large pizza. There's no way in hell I want to cart that much stuff around. The used trailer is looking better and better...
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I saw a messenger on a cargo bike whipping through downtown today. The front bucket looked like it could hold two people plus a case of beer and a large pizza. There's no way in hell I want to cart that much stuff around. The used trailer is looking better and better...
Oh I was thinking BD/xtra not like a bakfiets or whatever.
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Oh I was thinking BD/xtra not like a bakfiets or whatever.
Yah, it looked like he had a dumpster attached to the front of his bike - little tiny wheel and all.
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