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Old 07-30-08, 12:46 PM
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We don't have bike lanes here

If we did, I would be happy to share with small mopeds that were going a reasonable speed and showed some respect when they passed. I would love to see more mopeds transporting people than Escalades!
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Old 07-30-08, 01:07 PM
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In Denmark most scooters use the cycle paths. Most can only use the path, some scooters can use both the road and the cycle path, and some can only use the road.

I can easily overtake the path only types, and often draft the mix types.

Then there are illegal, souped up'ed crazies, who always use the cycle paths. I don't overtake or draft that sort as for some obscure reason they take it as an insult to their manhood.
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Old 07-30-08, 01:38 PM
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Frequently. I've also *****ed about it here...
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Old 07-30-08, 01:39 PM
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you're complaining a lot about nothing especially if your local laws permit the use of one in the bike lane or even lane splitting.

Most places won't permit them on MUPs however where pedestrians are expected to be.
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Old 07-30-08, 07:38 PM
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I should hav enever even mentioned them. Because I had another incident this afternoon. The cars where in their usual bumper to bumper traffic and I and a few other cyclist flew by them in the bike lane. Here comes this noisey moped coming up behind me. There is no room to pass on the left so he pretty much almost knocked me off the bridge going by. And of course his moped looked like it was fromt he 1980s so it was pusing out tons of fumes.

I wanted to kick him and knock him over.
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Old 07-30-08, 07:47 PM
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Eh...look. The reality is, the situation of mopeds in a bike lane is probably legally ambiguous. If it's a big deal for you, check your state laws and local ordnances re: use of bike lanes. If there's language saying that motorized vehicles aren't allowed, then what you do next is call the cops if you really don't want 'em there. It sounds like they think they're entitled to be there, so it shouldn't be hard for the cops to find offenders.
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Old 08-05-08, 09:55 AM
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Just last evening I was passed by a scooter/moped type thing at a fairly significant speed differential on the right. The fog lane was plenty wide, at least 8' and in principal I don't have a problem with them, just as I don't have issues with other slower (relative to motor vehicle traffic in the lane) moving vehicles using the fog lane...BUT as long as they use it responsibly. Passing on the right was not a great thing to do, seeing as I was stopped at a red light, but he blew right through the light and proceeded to blow through the next one too (he was lucky). To make matters worse, he was travelling at about the same if not faster than the flow of traffic...so he should have been in the lane. I will likewise ride in the travel lane when my speed matches or will tend to exceed traffic. I was catching him on the third light maybe just to suggest that he should be using the travel lane and not the fog lane in the manner he was, but he made that light at green and I didn't. I didn't see him again.

The gas $$$ situation has moved alot of irresponsible car/mv drivers onto scooters/mopeds. Perhaps it is time that they have the same instruction and licensing requirements as do motorcycle riders?

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Old 08-05-08, 10:01 AM
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I got one better. I passed a chick on a full size scooter last week... you know the kind you can do 40-45mph on...and she was driving it on THE SIDEWALK.
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Old 08-05-08, 10:47 AM
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damn, sidewalk, eh?


And the rules should be pretty simple. If you need a motorcycle license to drive it, you need to stay in the regular lanes.

Now that everyone and their mother has a fixie, scooters are going to start cropping up with guys with way too much money invested in American Apparel on them.
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Old 08-05-08, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HeIncreasesMe View Post
Have any of you encountered this foolishness? Scooters should not be in a bike lane. Being passed..cut off by a scooter..or having the exhaust of a scooter fly up into your face..is not cool. Especially on a dusty road.
I don't think the problem is being in the bike lane... I think its that they are inconsiderate and pass you too close throwing the exhaust and pebbles at you...
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Old 08-05-08, 11:23 AM
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I was backed up on a 5 lane road ~1mi from light. No bike lane, very narrow lanes. I came up behind non moving line and filtered carefully between cars. A motorcycle came up behind just as I started this and took the sidewalk! I ended up getting thru the light earlier as they got stuck by vehicles pulling in/out of stuck traffic from sidestreet, blocking the sidewalk.

I could care less what other vehicles use the bike lane.
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Old 08-05-08, 01:07 PM
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'round here, there are a lot of bike lanes. They're marked with a diamond, and are usually "bicycles, right turn only and buses". Exclusive bike lanes are pretty rare in Madison, and mostly happen for 100 feet or so to protect against right hooks. So of course a moped, scooter, car and semi all *can* legally use the bike lane if they're making a right turn... and I really wish they would. I'm perfectly happy to share and skip the right hook lane position.

If the vehicle is not turning, I am annoyed, because odds are they're *parking*. Illegally. And odds are, parking enforcement won't get to them in time. I love Madison's parking enforcement people... they are very strict and try hard to keep things safe.

And yes, scooters on the sidewalk are all too common... and most scooters are big enough to require a class M license. Not cool at all.
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Old 08-05-08, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
Well, maybe you should ride in the car lane? Works for me. Has for 20 years.
those of you who don't ride in the bike lane....are you talking the ones that are basically right on the right of the car lane? or what? cause why not use those?
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Old 08-05-08, 03:51 PM
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Bike lanes in Shanghai can be used by motor scooters, electric bikes, and bicycles. You get used to it pretty quick, so it doesn't really bother me to get passed by scooters.
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Old 08-05-08, 06:14 PM
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50cc I don't have an issue on bike lanes on streets. They are about the same speed as a bike.

I have a 1965 Puch Condor I have put many thousands of miles on. I need to respoke the wheels and get it back on the road.

I don't want to see them on Green space MUPs! I'm on those as much to get away from motors and noise as anything.

Anything over 50cc needs to be out in the lane. My 64 Sears Allstate (Re-badged Vespa) 125cc has a 4 speed transmission and will run 45mph no problem . It has NO buisness in a bike lane.
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Old 08-05-08, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by turkdc View Post
If we did, I would be happy to share with small mopeds that were going a reasonable speed and showed some respect when they passed. I would love to see more mopeds transporting people than Escalades!
I usually see mopeds piloted by local hoodlums flying up the street with the throttle wide open to go 35MPH, creating as much unnecessary noise as a fricken Harley. These things need some real noise standards, or I'd be happy to see them banned completely. I'd love to have an electric scooter.
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Old 08-06-08, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 4zn_balla View Post
those of you who don't ride in the bike lane....are you talking the ones that are basically right on the right of the car lane? or what? cause why not use those?
I never knew or understood what a right hook was, until I saw a bike lane. I always thought, what on earth are people doing with cars beisde them at anintersection? When I learned to ride that was the cardinal rule- at intersections- cars in front, cars behind, but never at your side. The bike lane puts you in the target zone.


When I ride in a bike lane cars pass me going 2-3 times as fast as me, with 2-3 feet to spare. When I ride on the road, cars pass me 5-10 mph faster than I am going, with 2-3 feet to spare, which would you choose?
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come on y'all!

Look, y'all can just get over it! Mopeds and the like have just as much of a right to be on the road as you do. Moped riders are just as pro bike as you are, so don't burn the bridges. I ride bikes, mopeds and tractors, so it comes across as funny to me that anyone would gripe about such things being on the road. Imagine how some people feel about bikes, mopeds or other slow moving vehicles being on the road (like school buses or garbage trucks). They absolutely hate us regardless of what we're riding. Just stop being a sour puss about it and enjoy the ride. I don't know what it is about people that causes them to think only about what they need and forget everybody else (God forbid that anyone else live in this world and use the bike lane). Not trying to be mean (just being honest), but I hope y'all haters realize in hindsight that you're acting like a bunch of two wheeled drama queens. Get over it and enjoy the ride!

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Old 06-22-09, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BRNRBR View Post
In my case it's peds, runners, baby stollers, bladers, 3 or 4 across who won't budge and single up. Etc.
+1

No matter what other trail users are doing, I find that those who are aware and polite are never a problem for me, including the occasional moped.

I manage to walk, with my wife, skate, bike, pull a trailer behind my bike, and sit (near - not ON) to watch a sunset from the MUP along the Mississippi River, and not cause any problems for other trail users because I am aware of everything and very happy to stay out of the way of other trail users.
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Old 06-22-09, 04:53 PM
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Virtually no bikes lanes around here, so I don't experience your frustration. I'm OK with it, unless they're riding in jackass mode!
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Originally Posted by BA Commuter View Post
Virtually no bikes lanes around here, so I don't experience your frustration. I'm OK with it, unless they're riding in jackass mode!
I agree, If someone isn't being a safe and courteous driver/rider, they don't need to be on the road at all.
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Old 06-22-09, 06:29 PM
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I had to pull out to pass a moped coming home one afternoon a few years ago - and i am definitely not the fastest thing on legs. Perhaps there should be some kind of speed range posted?
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Old 06-22-09, 06:38 PM
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Never seen a scooter on the paths, but people standing in clusters in the middle of the path or walking 4 across and only scooting over 2" to let me by is an issue, but I only use MUP's when riding with the kids. The road is where I can go as fast as I want to.
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Old 06-22-09, 07:11 PM
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Scooters and mopeds are a scurge here in Okinawa. The laws are really goofy pertaining to the use of scooters also.
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Originally Posted by Down_South View Post
Look, y'all can just get over it!
We did, a year ago. You're the one who joined the forum, decided to reply to a thread and didn't bother to check the dates of what you were replying to.
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