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Old 08-25-08, 03:51 PM
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San Francisco bicycle commuting increases

Here's an exceprt from an article from today's San Francisco Chronicle about the increase in alternative forms of commuter transportation, including scooters, bicycles, and electric bikes.

"Gas prices have also driven more people to commute by bike. BART officials report an increase of 10 to 15 percent in bicycles aboard trains, and bike racks at stations are fuller than ever. In San Francisco, a traffic count by the Municipal Transportation Authority in July found that during a one-hour stretch of the morning commute, there were more bicycles than cars, taxis, buses and streetcars heading eastbound on Market Street. According to Judson True, an authority spokesman, 509 bike riders were tallied compared with 400 cars, 43 taxis and 30 transit vehicles. On Bike to Work Day in May, he said, officials counted twice as many bikes as motorized vehicles."

Read the full article here:
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA9812GSKO.DTL
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Old 08-25-08, 03:55 PM
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Commuting in San Francisco would remind me of that milk commercial where the guy gets delicious cookies and thinks he's in heaven. Then, he realizes there's no milk to drink and wonders where he is.


Beautiful commute.

HELLISH hils.











A customer walks into a bike shops and asks, "How often will I need to change my brake shoes?"

The owner replies, "With moderate use, about six months. With heavy use, about three months."

Customer: "I live in San Francisco."

Shop Owner: "Weekly."
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Old 08-25-08, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairmont View Post
Commuting in San Francisco would remind me of that milk commercial where the guy gets delicious cookies and thinks he's in heaven. Then, he realizes there's no milk to drink and wonders where he is.


Beautiful commute.

HELLISH hils.











A customer walks into a bike shops and asks, "How often will I need to change my brake shoes?"

The owner replies, "With moderate use, about six months. With heavy use, about three months."

Customer: "I live in San Francisco."

Shop Owner: "Weekly."
With the exception of Nob Hill and a few others, the hills in SF really aren't that bad.
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Old 08-25-08, 05:27 PM
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Do those trolley tracks interfere at all? A trolly track of some sort grabbed the front wheel of my motorcycle in Loveland, Co once and sent me flying.
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Old 08-25-08, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot Potato View Post
Do those trolley tracks interfere at all? A trolly track of some sort grabbed the front wheel of my motorcycle in Loveland, Co once and sent me flying.
Yes they do. I always try to cross them at a 45-90 degree angle to keep from flying.
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Old 08-25-08, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot Potato View Post
Do those trolley tracks interfere at all? A trolly track of some sort grabbed the front wheel of my motorcycle in Loveland, Co once and sent me flying.
Also nice and slippery when wet.
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Old 08-25-08, 07:57 PM
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Man, that long trolley line on the big hill in those picks sure boxes you in then, doesn't it? Do you ride on the curb side or the yellow line side? Or should you just skip that road altogether?
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I'd be more worried about the trolly tracks on the hills than the actual grade.

Oh,and commuting every day,all weather,all hills,and hauling groceries,I get about 8-9 months of out my front pads and about a year to 13 out of my rears. Discs FTW.
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Originally Posted by taliesin View Post
With the exception of Nob Hill and a few others, the hills in SF really aren't that bad.
I don't know... You're probably just used to them. I'd have a pretty tough time I think.
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Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
I don't know... You're probably just used to them. I'd have a pretty tough time I think.
Same here.. I've been up to S.F. a few times. I don't think i'd want to ride around most of that town

As a side note, you guys that live there must have huge leg muscles.
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I've noticed a similar thing here in metro Sac (I live 20 miles east of downtown in the sierra foothills). I see infinitely more bikes a week (from 0 to 2), but there has been an explosion of scooters!

As a side note, you guys that live there must have huge leg muscles.
My commute isn't quite as hilly as SF, but usually hillier than south or east bay. Since I started riding to work around xmas, I lost 40 lbs in the first 5 months, but gained 5lbs in the last 3 - yet everyone still thinks I'm losing weight. Now I've almost got the thighs I had in high school and the wife's noticed bigger calfs. Good, but I still want to loose another 20-30 lbs lol.

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Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
I don't know... You're probably just used to them. I'd have a pretty tough time I think.
That's probably true. When I first moved here the hills seemed daunting. And even though I have a compact double crankset with a 12-27 cassette, I sometimes wish I had a triple.
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Originally Posted by Fairmont View Post
Commuting in San Francisco would remind me of that milk commercial where the guy gets delicious cookies and thinks he's in heaven. Then, he realizes there's no milk to drink and wonders where he is.


Beautiful commute.

HELLISH hils.

A customer walks into a bike shops and asks, "How often will I need to change my brake shoes?"

The owner replies, "With moderate use, about six months. With heavy use, about three months."

Customer: "I live in San Francisco."

Shop Owner: "Weekly."

Yeah, and not one of the hills pictured a commuter or transportation cyclist would ever ride. There are ways around the hills, often it adds mileage to your ride, but it is often worth it.

Edit:
Example : 1st and 4th pic are the same street, hyde. 2 blocks away is polk street which is the bike road for that area. Still has some hills in the beginning, nothing like hyde, but then is relatively flat all the way downtown.

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Old 08-26-08, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltani View Post
Yeah, and not one of the hills pictured a commuter or transportation cyclist would ever ride. There are ways around the hills, often it adds mileage to your ride, but it is often worth it.

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Example : 1st and 4th pic are the same street, hyde. 2 blocks away is polk street which is the bike road for that area. Still has some hills in the beginning, nothing like hyde, but then is relatively flat all the way downtown.
The city publishes an Official Bike Map that you can view at and download from the San Francisco Bicycle Coaltion website. The map indicates street grade and shows formal bike routes that have been designed with an eye toward riding around instead of over the big hills.
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I lived at Mission and 7th (yeah, I know, ghetto) for a few months and I always took Van Ness when I wanted to cross to the north side of town. My commute was only two BART stops away, from Civic Center to Montgomery along Market. Completely flat. There are only a few really bad hills in the city, and they're not impossible on a bike. I was riding an early 90's Peugeot mountain bike with a ton of gears.
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Originally Posted by Yan View Post
I lived at Mission and 7th (yeah, I know, ghetto) for a few months and I always took Van Ness when I wanted to cross to the north side of town. My commute was only two BART stops away, from Civic Center to Montgomery along Market. Completely flat. There are only a few really bad hills in the city, and they're not impossible on a bike. I was riding an early 90's Peugeot mountain bike with a ton of gears.

Why anyone would want to take van ness when polk is one block away is beyond me. I would like to personally hand the darwin award to van ness cyclists that ride it at night with no lights.
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Old 08-27-08, 10:06 AM
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I grew up in San Francisco and you quickly learn the fastest, flattest way from A to B. Having said that, sometimes you just have to go UP!
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