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Old 09-03-08, 09:12 PM
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Cager nonsense

Ah, the good old yelling JAMs... haven't encountered one in a while...

When passing through an underpass today, I was taking the lane, since I didn't want to be squeezed against the wall there. The light ahead is red anyway, and the line of cars is long, so anyone with half a brain molecule should be able to see that I can't possibly slow 'em down.

Well, some people don't have half a brain molecule. This idiot cager comes up behind me, tries to agressively swing around me (nearly plowing into the cars in the next lane) and, being unsuccesful, sticks her head out the window and starts yelling the usual cager crap: "Move over, you're in the middle on the *beep*ing lane!"

And two seconds later we stop, of course, because we've reached the line of cars waiting for the light to change. So I roll up to her open window as she's screaming her head off, start yelling at her to learn the *beep*ing law and, to make my point clearer I lean into her open window (she can't hear me right, since she's yelling so loudly... I'll come closer ). The window, of course, starts coming up instantly as the yelling changes from: "You're in the middle of the road!" to "Get out of my car!" Then comes the funny part: she starts banging her own car window from the inside, pretending to be hitting me, I guess. Did someone say anger management class? Or was she scaring me away: "Shoo, shoo, wild cyclist! Go away now!"

I return to my place in line, she rolls down the window again, another light cycle goes by, we're still stuck. I look back, smile, and point at the line of cars ahead of us, as if to ask "Is that what you needed to pass me so fast for?" This produces a new barrage of screams from her. To make sure I don't miss any of her enlightened message , I ride up to the side of her car again: the window immediately comes up, of course. No, no, we can't interact with other humans face-to-face... we need our two-ton metal shield, thank you so much.

Ah, what a f*kked up little coward... I almost feel sorry for her... nah, what the hell, of course I don't. How come every time I encounter someone like this I realize I forgot my human lifeform annihilator at home?

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Your last sentence says it all; what else can be added?

I made up a pastiche-French phrase to describe b----es like this one -- "femme entitle' " Means "little princess b---h with a sense of entitlement".
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Old 09-03-08, 11:17 PM
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Sounds like she was worthy of the Dented Door Prize.
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Originally Posted by ATAC49er View Post
I made up a pastiche-French phrase to describe b----es like this one -- "femme entitle' " Means "little princess b---h with a sense of entitlement".
That's not close to French. See https://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=546064 for the difficulties in translating "entitlement".

(If you really want to go for franglais, you could try "femme intitulée" - at least it's real, grammatically correct words.)

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Old 09-04-08, 12:00 AM
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^^^Dude he said 'a pastiche'...

As to what to do... Pull it out and let it flow through the open window? Naw, humor is your best bet, laugh it and her off, like I did when I fell over today and ganked my knee.
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Old 09-04-08, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stevage View Post
... "femme intitulée" ...

A woman who's had plastic surgery?
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Old 09-04-08, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chephy View Post
so anyone with half a brain molecule should be able to see that I can't possibly slow 'em down.
Ah ha, I think I see your mistake there.

Assumption is the mother of all fsck-ups. Most car drivers look no further than the vehicle in front. It is why there are so many multi-vehicle pile ups (they have little to do with not keeping a sufficient gap, but that's a whole other argument).

Have you ever noticed that as a cyclist, when you go back and drive a car, and the traffic slows: you cover the brake, then get that worry-wonder about when the cars up in front are going to notice the traffic in front of them has stopped?

Assuming the average car driver has even a tenth as much road awareness as the average cyclist is often overstating the case. There are many studies on this.
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Old 09-04-08, 06:27 AM
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Noise is noise. Ignore it and move on.
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Originally Posted by Popeyecahn View Post
^^^Dude he said 'a pastiche'...

As to what to do... Pull it out and let it flow through the open window? Naw, humor is your best bet, laugh it and her off, like I did when I fell over today and ganked my knee.
Ganked, I love that word... Seem to recall it surfacing sometime during the early 90's rap era...

On topic, I had a guy do just about the same, pass me even when I was taking most of the lane to protect myself through an intersection and of course puts his right blinker on and slams the brakes, yells at me to "slow down *****hole". Had to just laugh at him after nearly avoiding death by right hook. I'm sure he'll use those 2 tenths of a second he saved wisely.
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Originally Posted by chephy View Post
Ah, what a f*kked up little coward...
Yes, you are. It takes more of a man to turn the other cheek and rule your emotions instead of being ruled by them.
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Old 09-04-08, 07:21 AM
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How did she not peal out and move the 10 ft forward to occupy the space you had been occupying when you rolled back to talk to her not once but twice?

Edit: Reading all this I think if I ran into that situation I'd gift hat 10ft to the car driver when I rolled up to their window because it was just soo important to them. Goodwill or some such Then start honking the airzounds because they are holding you up

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Old 09-04-08, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DallasSoxFan View Post
Yes, you are. It takes more of a man to turn the other cheek and rule your emotions instead of being ruled by them.
chephy would be more of a man than you'll ever be...well cept for one little detail...
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So many meek cyclists avoiding confrontations....

Go chephy! It has been a while since I have had a good argument on the road. Shucks...
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So many meek cyclists avoiding confrontations....

Go chephy! It has been a while since I have had a good argument on the road. Shucks...
+1. Sometimes you've just got to Man Up and let 'er rip. IMO, the cager got off light.
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So many meek cyclists avoiding confrontations....
You choose your battles, and let other people choose theirs. If you want to jack up your blood pressure and spray spit and invective at a driver who's doing the same, knock yourself out. I think it's dumb and a waste of time -- someone in a state like that isn't going to be enlightened by anything you say, they're only going to be enraged -- but hey, it's your time to waste.
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I'm always conflicted. I don't really care about that "turning the other cheek" bull****, but I do care about respect on the road and not diminishing it.

I try to refrain from rightfully ripping into cagers simply so that I don't add to the negative stigma of cyclists.

Not because I want the driver I pissed off somehow to be all like, "what an angel" but so that the car behind her doesn't see me and go, "Oh another angry cyclist, what has this world come to!"

I exaggerate.

I usually fail at refraining. Though rather than argue, I just roll up next to them at the light and stare at them. You'd be surprised how many are terrified of you. and just sit their awkwardly, and don't say a word. Most roll up their windows.
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lol

I had a lady scream at me in my first year of riding.
I rolled up next to her window and stared. She refused to look at me. Then I politely asked what she yelled. No response and I went on my way. Strangely a civil action on my part.
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Originally Posted by lil brown bat View Post
You choose your battles, and let other people choose theirs. If you want to jack up your blood pressure and spray spit and invective at a driver who's doing the same, knock yourself out. I think it's dumb and a waste of time -- someone in a state like that isn't going to be enlightened by anything you say, they're only going to be enraged -- but hey, it's your time to waste.
Have you ever just let it all out? It can be a cathartic and empowering experience...one that we tend to bury in everyday life.

I think that if I always tried to "smile and wave", I'd have *more* stress from burying my true feelings of outrage.

Personally, I do both - for minor encounters and irritations, I ignore them, or smile and wave.

But, for egregious behavior like the OP's post...well, then it's Game On and I'll defend (vociferously and loudly) my right to be on the road.
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yeah, but was she hot?
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Though rather than argue, I just roll up next to them at the light and stare at them. You'd be surprised how many are terrified of you. and just sit their awkwardly, and don't say a word. Most roll up their windows.
I discovered this by accident... I had a truck buzz me with a guy yelling out the window. As I rolled up to him at the next light, I was trying to think of some snappy insult to hurl his way. As I sat there thinking, the time started to stretch out... with me just looking at him. He got more and more nervous as we sat... me doing nothing but looking at him. It reduced this big burly guy to a quivering ball of nerves by the time the light changed... I guess that he didn't know if I was some kind of raving psycho who was going to whip out a weapon or something.

It works even better if you're wearing your riding sunglasses...
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
So many meek cyclists avoiding confrontations....

Go chephy! It has been a while since I have had a good argument on the road. Shucks...
Originally Posted by lil brown bat View Post
You choose your battles, and let other people choose theirs. If you want to jack up your blood pressure and spray spit and invective at a driver who's doing the same, knock yourself out. I think it's dumb and a waste of time -- someone in a state like that isn't going to be enlightened by anything you say, they're only going to be enraged -- but hey, it's your time to waste.
Indeed, to each his/her own. If you're feeling froggy then jump by all means otherwise I think it's poor form to advocate confrontational behavior on the road in a public forum, especially between a biker and a car.

Surely cooler heads prevail, and if you can maintain, great but what about the hothead in the cage your at loggerheads with?

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Heh... y'all are going on about how arguments like this are useless, since tempers won't allow for it, when that's exactly what this thread is...
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Heh... y'all are going on about how arguments like this are useless, since tempers won't allow for it, when that's exactly what this thread is...
Except that we're separated by thousands of miles of cat5 and not in each others face arguing about vehicular space and so forth...
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i wonder how she spun the story to her co-workers and family? no doubt you were the crazed cyclist who was holding up traffic on purpose and then tried to attack her in her car as she innocently went about her business.
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Originally Posted by Popeyecahn View Post
Indeed, to each his/her own. If you're feeling froggy then jump by all means otherwise I think it's poor form to advocate confrontational behavior on the road in a public forum, especially between a biker and a car.

Surely cooler heads prevail, and if you can maintain, great but what about the hothead in the cage your at loggerheads with?
Good lord people. I am not advocating arguing in every confrontation. Just that every so often it is nice to see a cyclist stand up for themselves and not run and hide like most of y'all seem to advocate.
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