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Old 09-08-08, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pathdoc View Post
Never seen those before. Thank God we don't have those here in North Texas.
Agreed. The regular NorTex sticker-burrs do a perfectly good job, all by themselves.
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Are they also called "Colorado Diamonds"?
I've never heard that but could be - they're diamond hard and there are ****-loads of them in Colorado, at least in urban areas.
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Old 09-08-08, 03:26 PM
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I have the marathon plus 700 x 25 & I haven't had a flat for 2,500 miles. Since November last year. I have had better luck with these that I initially thoght I would. (1st pair)

It is starting to be goathead season here. So, not sure how they will stand up. But, I am going for it to see how they work. I love em so far.
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Old 09-08-08, 05:29 PM
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Tough on pouch's too. http://www.goatheads.com/home/gh1/pa...faux-paws.html
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Old 09-09-08, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by climbhoser View Post
Wife did, but I'm even finding them for $30 a pop...nice
That's a great price, where are you seeing that?
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Steve 09er...

Are those Kevlars or Armadillos? Tuffy tubes?
Just curious...is that a Dutch bike (what kind)? Saw the internal hub and kickstand...
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Old 09-09-08, 03:49 PM
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I put my Marathon Plus tires on in the middle of May, 2007 after a 9 flats in two weeks span--6,500 miles ago. 6,500 flat free miles ago.

I'm just north of you in Cheyenne, my daily commute includes 2 miles of gravel.

I'm getting ready to order a new set, and I'll take some photos of the new tires compared to the ones I've got on now. Oh, and right now they are far from worn out--but Terry's bike needs some better tires and they'll be fine for her mileage needs.

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Old 09-09-08, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlamb View Post
For $60/tire you could go with the Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. They use a material that's supposedly more puncture resistant than Kevlar while also being lighter. I put a set on my Tricross a few weeks ago and I've been very happy with them. We don't get goathead thorns in my neck of the woods, so your mileage may vary.



P.S. The link I put in seems to be down at the moment for maintenance, so here's an alternate link.
Disclaimer - I don't live in Goathead country.

I ran a Schwalbe marathon slick on my commuter for about 4000 km before it got shredded by a huge sliver of glass (>1 inch) through the sidewall.

I've run a Marathon Supreme on my front tire for about 5000+ km with no flats. I've looked at the tire carefully, and it is full of small and large craters, presumably from things that tried to puncture my tire. Several of these slices are larger than 1cm long.

I can only conclude that the tire has prevented numerous flats. In any case I am very happy with it.
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Old 09-09-08, 09:51 PM
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Does anyone have experience with the 26 x 1.35 vs. 26 x 1.75 Marathon Plus tires?
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Old 09-09-08, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
The most accurate description of goatheads, ever!

I had never had a flat living for years in the Midwest. Then I moved to Denver, and BOTH tires on BOTH bikes were flatted by by goatheads in the first two weeks, just commuting to work on PAVEMENT.
Almost exactly my experience. Four years of cycling in Ohio and no flats. I've had about six this season since moving to Denver.
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Old 09-09-08, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stevo9er View Post



Two more decent ones.


OUCH!...now I get it. It's a 'devil weed' to be sure. Never seen aynthing like them. Glass and debris in the 'stone zone' is nothing in comparision...nothing. Nu-Tecks in 700x35mm hybrids w/130 psi rating MIGHT give you the combo of rolling resistance and sure-fire goat-head protection. All you'd have to do is pull them out after every ride. No flats, ever. As much as I'm a SMP convert now, I don't think there's a pneunmatic on the market capable of defeating the dreaded goat heads. Tuffys, slime, spinskinz will all help, I'm sure, but it's only a matter of time...pppppppppppppppppppppppssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst. Goathead soup.
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Old 09-10-08, 12:24 AM
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MARATHON PLUS TIRES LAUGH AT GOATHEADS AND KEEP ROLLING

Sorry to yell, but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. One day while biking to work I was forced to detour through the weeds next to the 13th Ave bike path in Lakewood, CO. A couple blocks later I realized both my tires (Schwalbe Marathon Plus 26x1.35) were full of goatheads (just like those pictured in previous posts). I stopped to pick out most of the thorns. I believe I counted about 50 (that's fifty) in my front tire and about 20 (twenty) in my rear tire. Neither tire was flat and I kept rolling to work where I removed even more embedded thorn tips from deep in the rubber of both tires.

Those tires had about 4000 miles on them at that time. I'm over 5000 miles now and still ZERO flats. The rear tire is worn flat in the middle, the front tire hardly looks worn at all. 'Nuf said?

Oh, and make sure you get the "Plus" if you want flat-proofness. Read the comments here: http://flickr.com/photos/41938778@N00/2373436684 to learn why plain old Marathons don't cut it.
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Old 09-10-08, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nashcommguy View Post

BTW, they're a little tricky to mount, but you'll figure it out pretty quickly. The reflective sidewalls are pretty sweet, too for night rides.
Just installed some Marathons today to replace my Schwalbe CX Compes (I'll use those in the winter).

They (Marathons) were a little hard to mount and my ride is a little stiffer at 100 psi but the reflective sidewalls are the shizzle... as is the increased speed and better puncture protection.

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Old 09-10-08, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by velo2000 View Post
MARATHON PLUS TIRES LAUGH AT GOATHEADS AND KEEP ROLLING

Sorry to yell, but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. One day while biking to work I was forced to detour through the weeds next to the 13th Ave bike path in Lakewood, CO. A couple blocks later I realized both my tires (Schwalbe Marathon Plus 26x1.35) were full of goatheads (just like those pictured in previous posts). I stopped to pick out most of the thorns. I believe I counted about 50 (that's fifty) in my front tire and about 20 (twenty) in my rear tire. Neither tire was flat and I kept rolling to work where I removed even more embedded thorn tips from deep in the rubber of both tires.

Those tires had about 4000 miles on them at that time. I'm over 5000 miles now and still ZERO flats. The rear tire is worn flat in the middle, the front tire hardly looks worn at all. 'Nuf said?

Oh, and make sure you get the "Plus" if you want flat-proofness. Read the comments here: http://flickr.com/photos/41938778@N00/2373436684 to learn why plain old Marathons don't cut it.

That's what I'm talkin' about!!!! Exactly what I wanted to hear. I know to get the PLUS, all too well. I'm actually looking forward to the "stiffer" ride, too, especially in the rear. My bike puts more weight on the rear, so stiffer=better.

Can't wait to get them on!

Thanks, velo
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Old 09-10-08, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gholt View Post
I have the marathon plus 700 x 25 & I haven't had a flat for 2,500 miles. Since November last year. I have had better luck with these that I initially thoght I would. (1st pair)

It is starting to be goathead season here. So, not sure how they will stand up. But, I am going for it to see how they work. I love em so far.
Where did you pick those up in Utah? Decent price? I need some. Sick of flats. I'm in North Salt Lake down at the tip of South Davis County btw. Commute out to West Valley.
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We don't have goat heads here in Canuckistan so regular Marathons should do everything I need them to do.

I installed a pair on my Kuwahara Cascade about a month ago and could not be more pleased with them... the 26 by 1.5 tyres give a great ride at 100 psi on that lugged steel frame and I rode 82 wonderful miles last Sunday on them.

My Trek 7500 is one of the most rigid bikes I have ever owned so the 700:28 tyres at 100 psi make the ride a little harsher (but not at all unpleasant) so I'm thining I will dial them back to 90 psi to see if that helps.

Despite riding home into a headwind last night the average speed on my commute was nearly 5 kmh faster than usual and am sure the reflective sidewalls made more than a few drivers do a double take.
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Man, there's a whole website devoted to the erradication of this devil weed:

http://www.goatheads.com

Click on 'About Puncturevine (a.k.a. Goatheads)' Wow. And where have you found SMPs for 30.00 per? I'm getting two more sets...that's a good price.
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The way the marathon plus's work is that they use an additional layer of rubber that's tougher (not necesasirly harder) than the tread. That means the goathead has to make it's way through a lot more meat, plus the inside layer of rubber grips onto the goathead and stops it from penetrating.

Technically any sufficiently thick tread would stop it. And there's not much you can do other than just armor up.

On the other hand, you could try air free tires. I believe timmhaan's got a pair of them and said they ride pretty close to a road bike tire. And for commuting, you probably won't notice the difference anyway.

http://www.nu-teck.com/

Nu-teck seems to be the best company to deal with and they've been making em for a long time.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by velo2000 View Post
MARATHON PLUS TIRES LAUGH AT GOATHEADS AND KEEP ROLLING

Sorry to yell, but I wanted to make sure I had your attention. One day while biking to work I was forced to detour through the weeds next to the 13th Ave bike path in Lakewood, CO. A couple blocks later I realized both my tires (Schwalbe Marathon Plus 26x1.35) were full of goatheads (just like those pictured in previous posts). I stopped to pick out most of the thorns. I believe I counted about 50 (that's fifty) in my front tire and about 20 (twenty) in my rear tire. Neither tire was flat and I kept rolling to work where I removed even more embedded thorn tips from deep in the rubber of both tires.

Those tires had about 4000 miles on them at that time. I'm over 5000 miles now and still ZERO flats. The rear tire is worn flat in the middle, the front tire hardly looks worn at all. 'Nuf said?

Oh, and make sure you get the "Plus" if you want flat-proofness. Read the comments here: http://flickr.com/photos/41938778@N00/2373436684 to learn why plain old Marathons don't cut it.
Certainly getting them quick is part of the secret. I'll have to give those tires a shot. We share the same path (watch out, man - the express is coming through LOL) - ridin' in an goathead paradise.

We should go in on a whole bunch of those weavels from goatheads.com next spring! RTD might have it all torn up by then, however......

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Old 09-12-08, 03:32 PM
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No goatheads to deal with in my neck of the woods (and my sympathies to those who do ... ouch), but I did pull a 3/4" nail fragment from my rear marathon plus this morning. It had penetrated the tread, hit the "smartguard" protection layer beneath and then deflected between it and the tread, where it had remained for who knows how long (I really should inspect these things more often). This is the second major tread penetration that I'm aware of and I still haven't had a flat.

As for durability, I have close to 20,000 kms on mine and the rear tread is now looking pretty worn. I am thinking I will probably have to replace the rear within the next 5,000 kms. I'm pretty happy with this level of durability, and can put up with the weight and rolling resistance penalties when in return I haven't had to fix a roadside flat in 2+ years.
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These 2,500 - 5,000 mileage stories are great to here. I just replaced some racing road tires after only 1,000 miles so I am hoping my new gatorskins last a bit longer.
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I use Marathon XRs and Tuffy Liners and have had 3 flats in 3 years. One flat was caused by a 2 inch sheet metal screw and with the other 2 two flats I found no punctures. I think the tubes just got tired. Right now my rear tire is pretty worn while the front has plenty of thread. I am thinking about rotating them. I have at least 4K miles on them.
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Ditto ofr everything that's been said about goatheads... I've lived in the SoCal high Desert and up here in SW Idaho, and both areas are full of goatheads (with Idaho being far worse.

If you've never dealt with these noxious weeds, you have no idea... They're really that bad. The tough needle-sharp thorn can penetrate almost anything. The only thing that stops it is a material that's so thick it can't go all the way through. I've used Slime, two different tire liners and all sorts of kevlar-belted tires... All with only limited success.

If indeed the SMP's work, I'll buy at least eight of them. In fact, I'll even buy stock in Schwalbe!

Thanks for a great thread, guys. Climbhoser and everyone else, you may have made my month as we start goathead season!

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