http://www.bdel.com/gear/element.php
I"ll chime in. These are some serious gloves for 40 dollars. The fleece liner was too warm for most the winter so I just used the shell and poly glove liners.
Scott

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I think I'm going to get some better gloves this winter. It doesn't get terribly cold here compared to a lot of the places you guys live, and even the coldest weather here doesn't bother me much, but my hands get colder than anything. After that it's my feet and face.

ItsJustMe and others:

http://www.supercasuals.com/Kinco/Kinco_1927KW.cfm

IJM, you know the UP....well, living there I ONLY used the Kincos, and if you're like me and have hot hands then they'll do fine. I taught ski lessons at Marquette Mountain, and even down to -20degF these did the trick for me. Past that if I put in a thin liner I could go beyond ;)

Blowing the drive, hauling hay for the barn, riding my bike in the snow (3mi. downhill to work, oh yeah) these puppies did it all.

I've used them for years mountaineering, backcountry skiing throughout the Rockies, the Cascades and the Sierra.

When they fall apart you don't feel bad because they're cheap...but they'll last 2 years of HEAVY use.

What I like most about 'em is I can still manipulate things with my fingers. I can actually un-zip a coat without removing gloves! Amazing. Like I said, check out your feed store or look online. Model 1927KW or, if you like the gauntlet style, the plain jane 1927.

Wow, thanks. If they're that good, I'll buy a pair for sure, and if I have to get them online, I'll just go ahead and get 3 or 4.

Yeah, and check around for a good price, too. I was able to get them at the feed in Marquette for $5 even.

If you haven't found gloves that can keep your hands warm, your issue might be one of poor circulation and/or failure to keep your core warm rather than inadequate gloves. Basically, your body's thermoregulation systems will decrease circulation to the extremities if the core feels chilled, in order to conserve heat. Less circulation means less warming for hands and feet, so if you want your hands and feet to be warm, the first step is to make sure that the core stays warm.