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Old 09-10-08, 07:20 PM
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Commuter hits bear

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_bicyc...HBRxo2AY8DW7oF
Commuter hits bear story. Several years ago I had a deer run along side me, but that's about as close I have come to a large mammal during a commute.
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Originally Posted by Steele-Bike View Post
https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_bicyc...HBRxo2AY8DW7oF
Commuter hits bear story. Several years ago I had a deer run along side me, but that's about as close I have come to a large mammal during a commute.
I had some words last week with a large mammal during a commute.
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Jim Litz said he was traveling about 25 mph Monday morning when he came upon a rise and spotted a black bear about 10 feet in front of him. He didn't have time to stop and T-boned the bruin.
Going too fast for conditions. That's a $75 ticket around here. If that was a Chicago Bear, he'd be in jail right now.
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Old 09-11-08, 12:13 AM
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Not again! I read on this forum about a crash with a bear a few months ago. This story appears to be more recent. Maybe we all need some bear vs. bike training, as bears seem to be a recurring hazard.
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Originally Posted by BassClef View Post
Going too fast for conditions. That's a $75 ticket around here. If that was a Chicago Bear, he'd be in jail right now.
that's a crappy law...on a car I would understand but on a bike..come on, wildlife sometimes fails at not crossing in front of us at the wrong times, take a look at all the dogs that get hit for instance..if some city makes a law against that they would be rich from cyclists hitting dogs whose owners are too lazy to leash them up.
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Old 09-11-08, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Steele-Bike View Post
https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_bicyc...HBRxo2AY8DW7oF
Commuter hits bear story. Several years ago I had a deer run along side me, but that's about as close I have come to a large mammal during a commute.
When I was a kid (riding my BMX), I had a deer jump over me (I was riding next to an embankment that went up--it was a deer path which the deer used to get to the "crick" on the other side of the road). It was a rather terrifying moment, and I actually wrecked my bike. It's a wonder he/she didn't brain me with his hoofs...

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Old 09-11-08, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Szczuldo View Post
that's a crappy law...on a car I would understand but on a bike..come on, wildlife sometimes fails at not crossing in front of us at the wrong times, take a look at all the dogs that get hit for instance..if some city makes a law against that they would be rich from cyclists hitting dogs whose owners are too lazy to leash them up.
Why should the law apply to a car and not a bike? The bear didn't run in front of him - he rode up on it coming over a rise. If that was a car coming up on a bike, whose fault would that be?
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Originally Posted by BassClef View Post
Why should the law apply to a car and not a bike? The bear didn't run in front of him - he rode up on it coming over a rise. If that was a car coming up on a bike, whose fault would that be?
Because a car weighs 4000 pounds and you and your bike are less than 200-250. The weight of the vehicle is directly proportional to the force of impact.
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Old 09-11-08, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Because a car weighs 4000 pounds and you and your bike are less than 200-250. The weight of the vehicle is directly proportional to the force of impact.
Yeah, but the law isn't about how much damage is done. It's about who's at fault if a collision occurs.

If you can't stop before hitting a stationary obstacle in the road, then you're going too fast. That's pretty much rule one of road use. If your sight lines are X feet, then you reduce your speed until your stopping distance after reaction time is X or less feet. If adverse conditions affect either your ability to see, react, or stop, factor those into consideration. It doesn't matter if you're on foot, bike, car, or rocket.
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Old 09-11-08, 06:50 AM
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This is why we need to protect our right to arm bears.

Another article linked in a similar thread over in A&S says the guy works at Target Range Middle School. Heh.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:12 AM
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Not commuting, but this story reminded me.

Last summer, a friend was on one of the weekly road rides, cruising along in the pack (near the front I think) when he notices movement at the side of the road. Suddenly, an adult deer springs into his path. Thinking quick, he unclips his feet and throws himself off his bike, plowing into the deer with his shoulder instead of his front wheel. The deer takes the impact like Jerome Bettis and leaps into peleton, laying waste to a dozen unsuspecting riders. The confused animal then streaks off into the woods, leaving a dazed and road-rash-sporting pile of people behind.

Unreal.
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Old 09-11-08, 07:14 AM
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Too fast for conditions? Puh-shay. What malarky.
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Travelling 25mph??? That is VERY fast on a bicycle and I always have doubts when people tell me they travel that fast.

Good thing he was wearing a helmet otherwise his skull would have cracked
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
Yeah, but the law isn't about how much damage is done. It's about who's at fault if a collision occurs.

If you can't stop before hitting a stationary obstacle in the road, then you're going too fast. That's pretty much rule one of road use. If your sight lines are X feet, then you reduce your speed until your stopping distance after reaction time is X or less feet. If adverse conditions affect either your ability to see, react, or stop, factor those into consideration. It doesn't matter if you're on foot, bike, car, or rocket.
Well, I need to get to work in less than six hours, so I have to ride faster than you........heck, if I stopped and walked at every blind rise and corner I'd never get there. Wait, you said foot too...so on the blind corner into the MUP underpass I go through, I'd need to stop, and then carefully (oh so carefully) peer around the corner before walking around that corner. It's blind on the other end so I'd better walk through, slowly and hugging the right-hand (piss-soaked, spider infested) wall. Then peer around the next corner. And there's a rise on the other side, so better keep walking.....yup, never get there.

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Originally Posted by macteacher View Post
Travelling 25mph??? That is VERY fast on a bicycle and I always have doubts when people tell me they travel that fast.

Good thing he was wearing a helmet otherwise his skull would have cracked
Especially with the dirt path. The only way he's doing 25 is if he's going downhill.
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Travelling 25mph??? That is VERY fast on a bicycle and I always have doubts when people tell me they travel that fast.
You have doubts that people can go 25mph on a bike? WTF? I'm sure there are quite a few members here (myself included) who can do 25mph for a while on flats, let alone on any sort of downhill grade.
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Awesome. That's easily as cool as the guy last week here on the forum who was chased by a wild boar.

I almost think I'd rather get chased by the boar than run into a bear!!!
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Originally Posted by GV27 View Post
Well, I need to get to work in less than six hours, so I have to ride faster than you........heck, if I stopped and walked at every blind rise and corner I'd never get there. Wait, you said foot too...so on the blind corner into the MUP underpass I go through, I'd need to stop, and then carefully (oh so carefully) peer around the corner before walking around that corner. It's blind on the other end so I'd better walk through, slowly and hugging the right-hand (piss-soaked, spider infested) wall. Then peer around the next corner. And there's a rise on the other side, so better keep walking.....yup, never get there.
Then pick a different route. You are responsible for total control of your vehicle and person, no excuses.
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Originally Posted by bkrownd View Post
Then pick a different route. You are responsible for total control of your vehicle and person, no excuses.
What makes you so sure that the bear was a "stationary object"? When drivers hit moose or deer, it's often a case of the animal sprinting out onto the road in front of the vehicle. Why do you think the bear was standing still? I've seen a lot of bears, on roads and elsewhere, but I've never seen one just standing on a road.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Underbridge View Post
You have doubts that people can go 25mph on a bike? WTF? I'm sure there are quite a few members here (myself included) who can do 25mph for a while on flats, let alone on any sort of downhill grade.
+1 I hit 25-30 mph every day on my flat commute to catch lights.

Also one day a saw a bear when I was biking on the other side of the road. I stopped to look at the unusual sight for a minute or 2. They I looked down at my bike and thought perhaps I am a bit exposed to be up close and personal with a bear and moved on.
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