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road shoulders, or lack thereof
How do other people deal with commuting on roads with either no shoulder, or a minimal shoulder? I do find it is generally much safer when I claim a part of the road, as opposed to tightroping the narrow shoulder (and thus invisible to an alarming number of drivers). Cars actually slow down to pass when you ride assertively. Well, at least 95+% of them do in my experience.
On my commute, it is especially bad in the morning when the sun is just coming up straight ahead on the horizon and cars are streaming by. I can't help but watch them coming up in my mirror while I'm riding.. as if I could ride into the ditch if I had to. An alternative to this road does have a better shoulder, but also has very heavy traffic and a lot of exhaust fumes to deal with. Gah - I'll take my chances on the lesser traveled, minimal shoulder route. On the plus side, commuting is a GREAT way to get tons of miles in (I road race). 25 miles in the morning, 25 miles in the evening.. and I'm done training by 7pm. Yeah! :) -Ron |
When there's no safe shoulder for me to ride in, I claim enough of the lane to stop cars being able to pass me without actually moving out of the lane. If you don't do this, you end up with cars passing you with inches to spare. I don't really care if I hold them up for a few seconds :). I'd rather be alive and safe...
I also ride with at least one rear light on whenever I'm commuting during daylight hours, and often an LED headlight as well. I've found it helps drivers see me a lot better, especially when the sun is an issue. |
Neither of my routes have much of a shoulder. I normally ride right on the fog line. If there is a lot of traffic, I move into the lane a bit also to keep the folks that are in a big hurry from crowding me.
I have several NO PASSING ZONES on blind curves on my normal route that I almost always take a good portion of the lane to keep from being crowded off the road. |
It depends on the width of the road and the speed and density of traffic. There are a couple of rules of thumb that I follow though.
Generally, I ride far enough outside the path of traffic to have enough room or three feet from the road edge, whichever is greater. The exception to this is: the closer I get to the speed of the traffic, the further I move into the lane. The position of the white line is irrelevant. |
Originally Posted by Allister
<snip>The position of the white line is irrelevant.
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I ride the white line all the time, just concentrate and dont make any mistakes, big trucks and busses can make you nervous but just focus ahead of you and dont look down.
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Originally Posted by Allister
The position of the white line is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by VeloRon
I do find it is generally much safer when I claim a part of the road, as opposed to tightroping the narrow shoulder (and thus invisible to an alarming number of drivers). Cars actually slow down to pass when you ride assertively. Well, at least 95+% of them do in my experience.
1. If the road starts to break up, you could be in serious trouble. There could be glass, a pothole or anything and by tightroping that narrow shoulder you're forced to hold that position at full speed regardless to the poor road road conditions. You've basically boxed yourself in a quite dangerous position in my opinion as cars will be riding right next to you and expect you to HOLD that position. 2. You can't really hold that tight a line if there's plenty of wind. You're playing with fire here. 3. Whatever room you give the motorist, they will demand more from you. I've found that no matter how generous you are, some cars will just come even closer so why bother doing the tightrope? |
Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
The problems with tightroping the narrow shoulder are the following
1. If the road starts to break up, you could be in serious trouble. There could be glass, a pothole or anything and by tightroping that narrow shoulder you're forced you to hold that position at full speed regardless to the poor road road conditions. You've basically boxed yourself in which in quite dangerous in my opinion. 2. You can't really hold that tight a line if there's plenty of wind. You're playing with fire here. Unfortunately, I see too many cyclists who just aren't comfortable with riding to the left of the white line. That can make for a white knuckle ride which can't be all that enjoyable.
Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve
3. Whatever room you give the motorist, they will demand more from you. I've found that no matter how generous you are, some cars will just come even closer so why bother doing the tightrope?
Holding your ground and taking a reasonable part of the lane is safest, in my opinion. Luckily, I only rarely encounter motorists who truly get mad that I'm in their way. These types usually try to make a point by honking, yelling or a close drive-by. Only the latter really bothers me. I find that a friendly wave is the best response in most cases.. -Ron |
Take the space that you need to ride safely but remember that courtesy works both ways. Give motorists the room to pass as soon as it is safe to do so.
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If the sun is low enough to be in your eyes, then it's in the motorists eyes as well. This is a tough time to be on a road with no shoulder since the motorist is very likely not to see you. I would opt for the busier road with the shoulder so the motorists do not have to take evasive action.
I believe that taking any significant portion of the lane when the sun is directly in your eyes is an unsafe practice. |
Originally Posted by supcom
I believe that taking any significant portion of the lane when the sun is directly in your eyes is an unsafe practice.
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