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rugerben 10-05-08 09:44 AM

Which areas are the least bike-friendly
 
I keep hearing about how cagers are yelling at cyclists, throwing stuff, etc... It seems like a regular event. I've been riding the roads for a year and a half now, and only once has someone yelled "get on the sidewalk!!!" and even then it was some dumb college kid with a pretty girl in the car who he was probably trying to impress.
I've never had anyone buzz me, swerve at me, throw anything, or honk in anger (people sometimes honk, but it's the light tap on the horn just to let me know they are there...).

I live in a suburb of New Haven CT so perhaps people are just laid back cuz it's the burbs? It's also a college town, but these aren't cool college kids. they are stuck up jerks who are greatly less considerate than the townies.

So where do you find you have all these trouble with drivers? Cities? Country? Burbs? North? South? East cost? West coast?

Da Tinker 10-05-08 09:55 AM

Before Ike hit, Galveston, Tx was one of the least bike-friendly places I have ever ridden. Strange that, since much of the area's economy was based on tourists.

BBnet3000 10-05-08 10:13 AM

i hate to say this, but its pretty much as simple as "blue" and "red" on an election map.

and i mean a by county map, not a by state map. hence why austin, TX is alright, but bakersfield, CA probably leaves something to be desired.

Barrettscv 10-05-08 10:30 AM

I travel from Chicago, where I live, to the suburbs and I find the suburbs much more friendly than the city. The city has higher congestion and greater road rage in general. Schaumburg, where I work, is very bike friendly.

Michael

SouthFLpix 10-05-08 10:31 AM

Miami, FL.....

-no bike lanes
-no shoulder on most roads
-40+ mph traffic (minimum) everywhere
-elderly drivers
-a lot of people driving under the influence because of the nightlife

beerfilter 10-05-08 10:31 AM

I don't like to generalize but I participate in a non-bike forum that is vaguely , but not explicitly political. On said forum there was a thread concerning bicyclists. It was interesting so see where people came from vis-a-vis their pro/con stance on sharing the road.

It more or less corresponded with what Bbnet3000 describes. The words "damn hippies" were invoked often to describe bicyclists who were, in all likelihood, nothing of the sort.

bf

MrCrassic 10-05-08 10:36 AM

New York City is not all that bike friendly, though they are trying to change this.

uke 10-05-08 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by BBnet3000 (Post 7606403)
i hate to say this, but its pretty much as simple as "blue" and "red" on an election map.

and i mean a by county map, not a by state map. hence why austin, TX is alright, but bakersfield, CA probably leaves something to be desired.

This'll be the most accurate answer no matter how many pages this thread reaches.

Lamplight 10-05-08 10:57 AM

You live in New England. I'm not surprised you haven't had many problems.

froze 10-05-08 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=BBnet3000;7606403and i mean a by county map, not a by state map. hence why austin, TX is alright, but bakersfield, CA probably leaves something to be desired.[/QUOTE]

Bakersfield CA? I lived there for 8 years commuted to work and rode into the mountains into Sequoia National Forest (yes I know the bike path doesn't go up there, but I would take the path to it's end then make my way to Breckenridge, 178 was too dangerous), then once a year I went the opposite way onto 119 to 33 to Ojai then 150 to Carpinteria onto the 101 to Jameson then into Santa Barbara. The riding variety and all year round riding weather was fantastic...although the heat of the summer between July and August made it almost unbearable to ride. But I found Bakersfield to be one of the better places to ride, next to Santa Barbara and most of the So Cal coastal region this was one of favorite places. I miss riding in the Bakersfield area, if my position didn't ask me to leave I would have stayed, I could have stayed but the sacrifice of a comfortable retirement later would have been too great.

What was it about Bakersfield you didn't like?

BBnet3000 10-05-08 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by froze (Post 7607021)
What was it about Bakersfield you didn't like?

i know nothing of it, i literally just pulled a red county in a blue state out of my ass as an example.

as i was doing it i was thinking it was probably a bad idea. california in general has pretty new and modern roads. still, this thread was more about the attitudes of people, which you didnt mention in your post.

CliftonGK1 10-05-08 02:09 PM

Most places around here are bike friendly. The exception I've found is up in Monroe, WA. This photo (linked due to NSFW hand gesture by cyclist posing in pic) is of a sign tacked to a utility pole along the Tour de Cure route (also used for the Flying Wheels Summer Century, and a couple other century rides starting from Redmond, WA.) A few of the mouthbreathers living along that road don't take kindly to cyclists. During the FWSC we were actually buzzed a couple of times by the same driver, until somebody hucked a water bottle into his open window.

Click here to see the picture.

Schwinnrider 10-05-08 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by SouthFLpix (Post 7606447)
Miami, FL.....

-no bike lanes
-no shoulder on most roads
-40+ mph traffic (minimum) everywhere
-elderly drivers
-a lot of people driving under the influence because of the nightlife


I'm thinking you pretty much described most of Florida, except for Gainesville. I live in a fairly small county in Florida and it's pretty dangerous. I've been hit twice. One serious and one minor. I've been buzzed, threatened, cut off, harassed, had stuff thrown at me, you name it. We have a combination of antiquated infrastructure, elderly drivers, and rednecks. Quite a challenge.

joshandlauri 10-05-08 03:21 PM

I find I-95 is not bike friendly.

I know smart ass right.

CB HI 10-05-08 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by BBnet3000 (Post 7606403)
i hate to say this, but its pretty much as simple as "blue" and "red" on an election map.

and i mean a by county map, not a by state map. hence why austin, TX is alright, but bakersfield, CA probably leaves something to be desired.

That is so BS. Just like the Belief by many that cyclist must be liberals. Hawaii is a blue state where every county is blue by a huge margin. Hawaii has some of the rudest drivers towards cyclist.

I even had a co-worker (a manager to boot) who is true blue as can be; intentionally buzz me in the company truck, just for fun.

CB HI 10-05-08 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by BBnet3000 (Post 7607290)
i know nothing of it, i literally just pulled a red county in a blue state out of my ass as an example.

as i was doing it i was thinking it was probably a bad idea. california in general has pretty new and modern roads. still, this thread was more about the attitudes of people, which you didnt mention in your post.

Sounds like you and Uke make a good pair, just pull things out of your ass and claim them to be fact.

chephy 10-05-08 03:53 PM

Hawaii is not really U.S. :p

CB HI 10-05-08 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Schwinnrider (Post 7607636)
I'm thinking you pretty much described most of Florida, except for Gainesville. I live in a fairly small county in Florida and it's pretty dangerous. I've been hit twice. One serious and one minor. I've been buzzed, threatened, cut off, harassed, had stuff thrown at me, you name it. We have a combination of antiquated infrastructure, elderly drivers, and rednecks. Quite a challenge.

The pan handle seemed friendly.

CB HI 10-05-08 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by chephy (Post 7607827)
Hawaii is not really U.S. :p

I know, Canadians think we are part of Canada. You should see how many Canadian school teachers we have here.:p
And the politics match up pretty close as well.

making 10-05-08 04:05 PM

Maybe it is our preception. I have had people yell at me, honk and generally act stupid. It has been ignorant rednecks, fat women in minivans, little skinny guys in a lexus or acura with a necktie I coulda...nevermind. I dont really see a connection. There are ignorant DA's everywhere. The longer I ride the less often I notice the sillyness. I try to focus on the 1000's who pass me uneventfully everday.

politicalgeek 10-05-08 04:06 PM

I find urban areas are better here than "suburbs". I got a lot more road rage riding a few miles outside of our downtown, than I did right in the heart.

Erick L 10-05-08 04:09 PM

In years of reading cycling forums, blogs and touring journals, the only place that strikes me as bike-unfriendly is Florida. Surprising because I'd expect a flat state with no winter to do good.

icedmocha 10-05-08 04:10 PM

There is no "area", imo. It is perception, and who you meet. I am sure that plenty of cyclist do rude stuff to drivers as well. The red state blue state sounds like a weak observation.

Chromavita 10-05-08 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Schwinnrider (Post 7607636)
I'm thinking you pretty much described most of Florida, except for Gainesville. I live in a fairly small county in Florida and it's pretty dangerous. I've been hit twice. One serious and one minor. I've been buzzed, threatened, cut off, harassed, had stuff thrown at me, you name it. We have a combination of antiquated infrastructure, elderly drivers, and rednecks. Quite a challenge.

I agree. Orlando has recently made an attempt to become more bike friendly my making roads with wide shoulders or bike lanes, but the attitude of people hasn't changed at all. Even when I'm on the shoulder more than a foot to the right of the white line, I still have people yell or throw something at me at least once a trip. I've had cars pass me recklessly on left hand turns while i was taking the lane. I've even been almost hit by a driver taking a right hand turn that had a "Watch for Bikers" sticker on his car. I guess bikers only refers to people on motorcycles :rolleyes:

Da Tinker 10-05-08 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by BBnet3000 (Post 7606403)
i hate to say this, but its pretty much as simple as "blue" and "red" on an election map.

and i mean a by county map, not a by state map. hence why austin, TX is alright, but bakersfield, CA probably leaves something to be desired.

I beg to differ. Lafayette, La is quite conservative, yet is also trying to be bike friendly. I am seldom buzzed and have never had anything thrown at me around here.

Effective Cycling is taught in the public schools & the Metro Planning Organization has a bike planning committe composed of actualy cyclists.


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