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Old 10-22-08, 06:03 PM
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Passed on both sides... at the same time

I was riding my partial-commute back to my car today on a 4-lane city street. I'm in the center of the right lane. The driver behind me passes on the left, but partially in my lane, at the same time another car veers around my right in the parking area. There was probably only six feet between the cars, and I was in that six feet of space.

I fully expected the two cars to collide after they got around me, but the one on the left swerved into the left lane.

The speed limit on that stretch of road is 30. I was probably doing half of that. There's a whole 'nother lane to go around in. WTF?
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Old 10-22-08, 06:10 PM
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Regardless of how fast we're really going; To a cager Bicycles = Slow!
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Classic case of the cyclist believing they are "controlling the lane" only to be circumvented by motorists that don't have a clue as to the rights of cyclists, (and the laws... passing on the right) and what sharing the road really means.
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Old 10-22-08, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
Classic case of the cyclist believing they are "controlling the lane" only to be circumvented by motorists that don't have a clue as to the rights of cyclists, (and the laws... passing on the right) and what sharing the road really means.
I'm pretty sure the guy passing on the right knew it was wrong. At least, I really hope so.

Controlling the lane may be the wrong terminology. Maybe it's more like making a suggestion.
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Old 10-22-08, 06:34 PM
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Passing on the right isn't always illegal - but it's almost always crazy.
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Originally Posted by pacificaslim View Post
Passing on the right isn't always illegal - but it's almost always crazy.
It is when driving through parking spots.
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Old 10-22-08, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
It is when driving through parking spots.
That maneuver was so common when I bike commuted in Philadelphia in the 70's that I would be surprised when a motorist didn't use the parking lane to pass if there was a sufficient gap to make it possible.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
That maneuver was so common when I bike commuted in Philadelphia in the 70's that I would be surprised when a motorist didn't use the parking lane to pass if there was a sufficient gap to make it possible.
I just asked about the parking-passing law in A&S and it varies by state, but I think a 7-foot wide 3000 pound car threading the needle is pretty risky. Bikes, not so much; just a perk to being under 2 feet wide.

As far as cars passing you, it happens whether you're going half the speed limit or twice the speed limit. Bikes are slow and the speedometer is probably malfunctioning.
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Old 10-22-08, 09:36 PM
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+1 I've given up on "rights". As they approach, I'll wave them to pass. That seems to make everyone happy. Reminds me of that "International Harvester song!

Originally Posted by genec View Post
Classic case of the cyclist believing they are "controlling the lane" only to be circumvented by motorists that don't have a clue as to the rights of cyclists, (and the laws... passing on the right) and what sharing the road really means.
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Old 10-22-08, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
There was probably only six feet between the cars, and I was in that six feet of space.
Ain't that a RUSH!

I use a helmet mounted rear-view mirror so that does not catch me by surprise. Otherwise, no biggie. However, if I were in the car, I would never do that.
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Old 10-23-08, 02:28 AM
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No one can control an idiot. The driver passing on the right was stupid, nothing you can do about that.

The driver passing on the left? They may have been a little close, could have shifted over more, but at least they got which side to pass on correct. They have no control over the moron.
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Old 10-23-08, 06:53 AM
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Stuff like that keeps us from falling asleep while we are riding. Get the heart going, ya know?
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Originally Posted by capejohn View Post
Stuff like that keeps us from falling asleep while we are riding. Get the heart going, ya know?
That it does.
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Old 10-23-08, 08:31 AM
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yeah, the right side pass sucks. i got passed on the right by a car driving in the bike lane once. didn't expect that.
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Old 10-23-08, 09:49 AM
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I have a portion of my return commute where it's three lanes - left most goes straight, middle lane goes straight and right, right most lane is right only and I take over the middle lane (in order to go straight) and have had vehicles pass me on either side - little daunting - especially in poorer weather.

However - on that same stretch (nasty 1 block area where the inner loop exits and enters and is a major intersection for some major streets in the city collide) where a couple youngsters cut me off badly and then the two lanes - suddenly became three (not supposed to be three) with me in the middle. I got thru it ---- and a nice thing - a woman in her car pulled up next to me and said she reported the girls as what they did was horrible. There are some people who DO watch out for us!
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Originally Posted by timmhaan View Post
yeah, the right side pass sucks. i got passed on the right by a car driving in the bike lane once. didn't expect that.
lol - people are incredible.

I've been passed many times on the right and left, there are a few one ways and weird intersections here in Toronto where that becomes common. Also, when I filter traffic there's the odd time I don't have chance to cut back to the curb when traffic starts moving so I end up passing and being passed a little. These things happen, just let them get on their way and you'll likely not be bothered - they just want to get to where they're going ASAP.

As Joey said, no biggy IMO - expect the unexpected and just ensure you carry yourself properly - let them collide, just make sure you don't get involved - riding straight/predictably and not getting flustered by other peoples stupid behaviour helps out a lot.

6ft isn't a lot of space, but 3ft is less - you had room, and you held your own and you survived - it will probably happen again - good job on dealing with it. People are stupid, sometimes we have to tolerate it -if you get chance perhaps advise them that it doesn't make you feel so comfortable, but otherwise, people will always be looking for the fastest way to wherever they're going - perception of safety seems to trump laws/common sense a lot, just be prepared to deal with it.
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Yesterday, I got passed on the right by an a-hole.

There is a bike lane down a hill that ends into a stop sign with two lanes, a right turn only and a through lane. The through lane is very narrow, and if I don't take it soon enough it is very difficult to merge from the bike lane. So I usually take the lane if there is a car far enough back that it cannot pass me before I get to the stop sign.

So that is what I did yesterday, and the a-hole behind me turns right so hard as we approach the stop sign that his tires squealed, then he passed me in the right hand turn lane and blew right through the stop sign, at about 65 MPH. The speed limit is 35 MPH and I can go about 30 MPH down the hill. I saw him ahead of me weaving in and out of traffic, passing people in the parking lanes etc.

If only a cop had been around!
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The guy who hit me passed the stopped traffic on the right.....
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I know a couple who were driving two cars side by side in adjacent lanes, and had a third car squeeze between them as it flew past them. Now THAT's crazy.
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I jinxed myself. I read this thread yesterday and thought, "Huh. For all the times I've been passed by idiots on the right, I've never had 2 cars pass me left-and-right simultaneously." Sure enough, 2 drivers did it to me on the way home yesterday. Fortunately the idiot on the right was exiting onto the highway, because the guy on the left did a close-pass and then cut right in front of me. If the guy on the right had tried to come over....well, it wouldn't have been pretty.

And to all the drivers who close-pass and the cut in front of me: Dude, I commute on 55-mph roads everyday; it takes a lot more than that to intimidate me.
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Originally Posted by BA Commuter View Post
Regardless of how fast we're really going; To a cager Bicycles = Slow!
True dat! The fastest I've ever gone on a single bike is 54 mph. I was doing it on a big hill with a 45 mph speed limit. The woman behind me just had to pass me. I was just too damned slow
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Originally Posted by Jtgyk View Post
Ah, for a messenger bag full of caltrops.
Those are hard on bike tires too. Try just a handful of 1/4 inch or 5/16 machine nuts thrown at a windshield.
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
I was riding my partial-commute back to my car today on a 4-lane city street. I'm in the center of the right lane. The driver behind me passes on the left, but partially in my lane, at the same time another car veers around my right in the parking area. There was probably only six feet between the cars, and I was in that six feet of space.
I've had people do that to me (in a car) on the highway a few times. They're doing their own private Cannonball Run and decide to split me at 80MPH. Some people have no manners.
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