keisatsu

Ugh, Rivendell is sooo overpriced, get one of these and save some money.

Sixty Fiver

I love the Pletscher stand on my Trek... it allows me to work on the bike without a stand and also makes loading an unloading paniers a trouble free operation.

I also have side stands on some of my vintage bikes as I prefer not to lean them against things or lie them down and they do not detract or cause any problems... unless you try and park on the lawn

HardyWeinberg

Heh... the 2' strip of grass between our house and driveway is thoroughly aerated w/ kickstand pokes. The driveway is shared w/ a neighbor so when I'm wheeling out the bikes in the morning, if she hasn't left yet, I can't put them on the (far less permeable) driveway.

People must have titanium/ceramic quads to be able to lug those 2-legged kickstands up hills. Those have to be at least twice as heavy as the one-leggers.

Sixty Fiver

The Pletscher rack is pretty light... the bike weighs 26 pounds with the kickstand which is quite reasonable for a commuter / tourer.

HardyWeinberg

I was being kind of sarcastic but it is cool that it's not too heavy. i don't think either of my bikes get below the 30# mark.

Sixty Fiver

I'm not much of a weight weenie but often weigh bikes just because I am a geek... sometimes folks want to know how much things like a 1933 CCM or 1948 Rudge roadster weighs.



(32 and 39 pounds if you are wondering)

Longfemur

A motorcycle needs to be held up securely because it's heavy to right, plus various fluids would spill from it. A bicycle doesn't, so a kickstand is an unnecessary appendage to have hanging from it. There's never, ever been a circumstance in the history of the world when a bicycle was safe to leave unattended on a kickstand. It's safer against falling by leaning it appropriately against something or just laying it down on the non-drive side. But if you like kickstands for whatever reason, hey, it's YOUR bike. They don't look out of place on a hybrid, unless it's the big double legged, spring type behind the bottom bracket style people used to use when I was a kid in the 1950's and 60's (which as luck would have it, is the only type of kickstand that isn't sure to let the bike fall over at the slightest provocation).

JanMM

Kickstands are not supposed to be used on bikes that I ride.

ricebowl

Don't need a kickstand. If I'm stopping somewhere on my bike I'm leaning it against something and locking it up.

Sixty Fiver

I would hate to accidentally scratch up a paint job that has remained as nice as this... she looks good for being 52 and I want to keep her that way.

ItsJustMe

...and yet, I've used kickstands since I was a kid, and I've NEVER had one fall off the stand (except a couple of times on wet sod), but I have had them fall while leaning against buildings and such, many times.

I use my kickstand multiple times a day. I actually do not have any place either at work or at home where it's possible to lean my bike against anything, nor is it allowable to lay it down.

I'm not sure what you mean by "safe to leave unattended". I've left my bike in my driveway on a kickstand during thunderstorms with wind and still it's never fallen over.

jcm

My 3-speed has the Swiss Pfletscher on it from way back, but I use this on my other bikes:https://www.click-stand.com/

When my bike is loaded, it can tip over with a traditional kicker. The Clickstand works much better and is tons lighter.

tjspiel

I hate that !

Generally I like kickstands. On one bike I have though where the crank passed really close to the chain stay it seemed like I had to constantly move the kickstand so it wouldn't hit, - and be careful not to move it so far in that it would hit the spokes instead.

they don't work so well when you're not on flat ground either. Again, I like them in general, but I've gotten annoyed with them often enough that I've left them off of a couple of bikes and I don't often miss them.

Grim

I have the rear mount on my Commuter/tourer but plan to replace it with the Pletscher Double. Nothing wrong with it it works as designed and no real complaints but with a bike loaded for touring I would rather have the double since it holds the bike vertical making it easier to load. It also allows for removing a wheel and it also takes up less space sitting vertical then leaning (I park in my foyer).

The Greenfield will go back on my M400 thats been converted to a hybrid.
I'll be order this soon
https://www.velo-orange.com/pldoki.html

ChiapasFixed

the main reason i dont use a kick stand on my commuter/tourer is that it is a folding bike, and a kickstand would get in the way of folding. one of those click-stand collapsible things may work, but then its just another thing to be carrying around/keeping track of and probably loosing before long.
i do have a couple broken collapsible tent poles lying around, maybe ill just adapt one of them and try it for a while, it may be nice to just forget about finding a place to lean your bike....

modernjess

I haven't had one since I had my Schwinn Cotton Picker the early 70's.

All due respect but I guess I've never felt a need for one. I still don't.

nahh

I don't have one on either of my bikes, but i'm not really against the idea. For me, they just aren't neccessary.

manicmike

i have been ripping kickstands off of bikes since i converted my stingray into a bmx bike. but i keep looking at them now thinking how convienent they could be!?. naw, no way never mind!

ascend

I've always taken my kickstands off, but I've only ever had fairly flimsy inadequate ones that only seem to work in perfect conditions.

The amount of times I've seen other bikes lying in a heap on the ground with their kickstand extended suggests that to use one properly takes as much attention to detail as just leaning the bike up against something properly, in which case I might as well just lean it properly to begin with and not carry the extra weight around.

That said, I don't ride with panniers. I can see how a kickstand would be useful for those who do.

dwilbur3

Exactly. Imagine trying to load your panniers at a grocer that doesn't have any bike racks so you've precariously chained your bike to an outdoor table. It happened to me today. Even my POS Schwinn kickstand was a blessing.

Any of y'all with three hands don't need one of course.

BengeBoy 

I have a rear-mounted kickstand on my commuter. It's really convenient; helps the bike stand up in the bike rack at work so it doesn't get banged up as much in the bike rack. Also makes it easier to stop off for errands on the way home.

makeinu

...or a rack.

Yan 

When I'm not holding my bike, it's locked. I can't see the point of a kickstand.

xenologer

How about all the times when you're riding, but stop to take a cell phone call, or to put on/remove your jacket? Need your hands free to do that, kickstand helps a lot with letting the bike stand up while you're busy.

Yan 

I straddle the top tube. If I absolutely need to get off the bike, I lean it against a stationary object, or if unavailable, my thigh. If all fails, I lay it on its side on the non drive train side.

Kickstands are essential in countries where free locking in guarded bike lots are the common practice (China, etc).