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degnaw 06-22-09 11:39 AM

Is the NY3000 the same as the NYFU?

(I really don't know)

Cyclist0383 06-22-09 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by degnaw (Post 9145718)
Is the NY3000 the same as the NYFU?

(I really don't know)

There is the New York 3000, which is aprox the same size as the Brute, and the FU which is a mini lock.

Commando303 06-22-09 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 9143237)
According to Cycling Plus magazine (May 2007) it takes 2min 59sec to cut through a Kryptonite NYFU lock with power tools, and just 29sec to cut through the OnGuard Brute with the same tools.

But as for the locks we've had jam, none were used improperly, and all were lubed. We all now use either Kryptonite or Abus locks, in the same conditions, with the same care, and haven't had a single problem with locks jamming or falling apart. YMMV.

I think you're citing two different sources (correct me if I'm wrong): the 2:59 figure for the Fahgettaboudit is coming from "Cycling Plus," whereas the :29 for the Brute, I believe, isn't (again, I apologize if I'm incorrect). Considering just 1.2mm separate the thickness of these two shackles, and both use respectable alloys, I find it difficult to believe the former offers ~six times the resistance as does the latter. I'll buy that you can get through the Brute in half a minute with an angle-grinder, but I highly doubt the person who could so so would need three minutes to cut the Fahgettaboudit. (Also, I think we ought to stick with comparing the Fahgettaboudit with the Brute Mini, in case we've been trying to pit it against the Brute STD; the Mini has an 18mm shackle, like its Kryptonite counterpart.)

As for pricing, the New York Lock tends to go for more than $70.00 most places I look (of course, some bike shops charge close to $100.00, and you've cited a lock to a $55.00 sale-price), whereas the Brute is inclined to cost less than $50.00 ($40.00 isn't uncommon). That's a significant difference to my wallet. Again, I'd like to leave the Fahgettaboudit out of this, as it's incomparable to the Brute STD.

*I think the NY3000 is a "larger" version of the "NYFU" (i.e., 18mm shackle, but not a "mini"). (Maybe I'm thinking of the M-18WL.)

envane 06-22-09 08:20 PM

For the record, I had the key break on my 3 year old kryptonite U-lock and it cost a pretty penny to get the damn thing off my bike.

I now have an On-guard. We'll see how that lasts.

Cyclist0383 06-22-09 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Commando303 (Post 9148624)
I think you're citing two different sources (correct me if I'm wrong): the 2:59 figure for the Fahgettaboudit is coming from "Cycling Plus," whereas the :29 for the Brute, I believe, isn't (again, I apologize if I'm incorrect). Considering just 1.2mm separate the thickness of these two shackles, and both use respectable alloys, I find it difficult to believe the former offers ~six times the resistance as does the latter. I'll buy that you can get through the Brute in half a minute with an angle-grinder, but I highly doubt the person who could so so would need three minutes to cut the Fahgettaboudit. (Also, I think we ought to stick with comparing the Fahgettaboudit with the Brute Mini, in case we've been trying to pit it against the Brute STD; the Mini has an 18mm shackle, like its Kryptonite counterpart.)

As for pricing, the New York Lock tends to go for more than $70.00 most places I look (of course, some bike shops charge close to $100.00, and you've cited a lock to a $55.00 sale-price), whereas the Brute is inclined to cost less than $50.00 ($40.00 isn't uncommon). That's a significant difference to my wallet. Again, I'd like to leave the Fahgettaboudit out of this, as it's incomparable to the Brute STD.

*I think the NY3000 is a "larger" version of the "NYFU" (i.e., 18mm shackle, but not a "mini"). (Maybe I'm thinking of the M-18WL.)

Buy what you like. Having used both OnGuard and Kryptonite I prefer Kryptonite as they just make a better quality lock, and have never left me stranded or miss work as OnGuard have. Plus, in Europe OnGuard has simply terrible customer service. There is a thread around here with my email correspondence with their main office in Israel. Check it out if you want to see what they're like.


No, both pieces of info are coming from Cycling Plus Magazine.




The price I sited is the first online price I found. I didn't spend too much time looking.




A quick look at the Kryptonite website will show you the difference between the NY3000 and the Fahgettaboudit.

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Outle...cts/180104.jpg

New York Lock® STD
4" x 8" (10.2cm x 20.3cm)
*16mm hardened MAX-Performance steel shackle resists bolt cutters and leverage attacks
* Higher security disc-style cylinder
* Double deadbolt locking for extensive holding power
* Protective vinyl coating
* Sliding dustcover protects and extends cylinder life
* Includes versatile EZ Mount transportation bracket
* 3 keys - one lighted with high intensity bulb & replaceable battery

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Outle...cts/997986.jpg

New York Fahgettaboudit® U-lock
3.25" x 6" (8.3cm x 153cm)
* 18mm hardened MAX-Performance steel shackle resists bolt cutters and leverage attacks
* Oversized hardened steel sleeve over crossbar for double security
* Double deadbolt locking for extensive holding power
* High security disc-style cylinder
* Center keyway defends against leverage attacks
* Protective vinyl coating
* Sliding dustcover protects and extends cylinder life
* 3 keys - one lighted with high intensity bulb & replaceable battery


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