Popeyecahn

No make it 5 things... an almost fanatical devotion to the pope...

People are lame, lame, lame. the conception of not stopping because you might cause further injury is sooooo f'n lame:

>biker crashes: Ahhhhhh!!!!!!

>Pedestrian: OMG are you OK? I'll call the paramedics if you think you need help...

>Biker: I think I'm OK, can you wait a minute until I can see ?

>Ped: Sure...

stoopid jerks

apricissimus 

I wiped out on the ice this morning and a motorist stopped to see if I was all right (I was). So not everyone's an a-hole, thankfully. But in general, yeah, there's not a whole lot of concern for strangers in our society.

Artkansas 

Seems like fixies would be screaming for a chain case. The riders all bragging about how low maintainance they are. A chain case would make it down right bombproof. The chain would always be protected from grit.

AlmostTrick

Maybe. While drivers certainly could (and occasionally do) run over a person laying in the street, it seems to me it is much more likely that they would stop, or at least slow down and go around a person rather than just run him over. Heck, most drivers go out of their way just to avoid running over a medium sized piece of scrap that couldn't even cause them any harm. I don't think the actual risk in this situation justifies our exaggerated fear of it.

I'm glad to hear that your injuries were not worse.

apricissimus 

A chain guard would make it a bit more of a hassle to remove the rear wheel. You need to move the chain off the rear cog in order to remove the wheel, and there's generally not much slack there. The chain guard would get in the way if it were on, and you'd need to take that off too.

I guess that's a minor inconvenience, but an even lesser inconvenience is just making sure that there's nothing loose that can get caught in the chain.

Mr. Underbridge

Same's happened to me. Had a pretty nasty wreck a little over a year ago, in traffic. Nobody stopped.

I know I would stop if I saw something like that. Heck, I stop if someone looks like they even *might* be having mechanical troubles with their bike. If somebody actually had a wreck, forget it. You stop.

no motor?

That's because you're in the city Yesterday I was driving to a lunch meeting out here in the burbs when I noticed a few guys trying to push an elderly womans car off the median. Somehow she'd missed the sign at the end but gotten hung up on the median, and about 6 of us were able to push and lift her car off so she could drive away.

Glad the OP is ok, hope the rest of your day was better.

ontheroadid

https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=6498405&page=1

Scubachisteve

A few weeks back when I was driving home I approached what I was certain to be a cycling accident. On the sidewalk I saw two bikes laying over, one person down on a knee hunched over with his back to me, blocking the view of the second rider. The stretch of road was at a very unique intersection which cars always move quickly through. All I could see of the second rider was a pair of sprawled out legs as if he was laying down. I immediately slowed and prepared to pull over. As I rolled passed the second rider came into view.

He was happily changing out a flat and chatting with his buddy-- leaning up against a lamp post in a very comfortable sprawled out position.

Glad I didn't have to stop!

paulwwalters

"Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear. Fear and surprise. Our TWO weapons are surprise and fear and ruthless efficiency. Our THREE weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. Our four... no. Amongst our weapons..."

paulwwalters

Damn you beat me to it!

dogbreathpnw

I'm glad to hear you're all right, but in light of an earlier post today regarding the fact that pedestrians in Virginia crosswalks are fair game for murder vehicle operators, it makes me *really* glad that I don't live in the mid-Atlantic.

You just wonder if perhaps the reputation that people from this area have may have some basis in fact.

Warning: I hail in my younger days from Flagler County Florida, so I don't necessarily have a fond opinion of snowbirds to begin with

lil brown bat

Do you think you could say something a little more pointlessly inflammatory?

CommuterRun

Glad you're okay, sorry the pants didn't survive. When I ride in long pants, usually jeans, I roll both legs 4-5 turns.

bhop

Roll up your pant leg.

ConstantRider

These look great, work great, and are ridiculously expensive. What's not to love?

ItsJustMe

Really? Because I take certified Red Cross training annually, and I've never heard this. Certainly, if there's a chance that someone has spinal injuries (like, can't feel their extremities or has significant neck/back pain, or was in an accident likely to produce severe trauma) then you certainly should not move them unless the area is, or is about to become, unsafe. That's just common sense. I don't want anyone but a paramedic or EMT to move me if I've been hit hard enough to possibly damage my spine.

And whenever there's significant injury or chance of, yeah, first thing you do is call 911, unless it was an unobserved collapse into unconsciousness and there's nobody there to help. But NEVER have I had a Red Cross instructor tell me to not do anything.

In fact, they tell me REPEATEDLY that I am absolutely covered by the good samaritan laws, if I am rendering assistance within my training, even if I am taken to court but everyone up through and including the Red Cross national offices will come to bat for me. In our great country, anyone can sue anyone for anything, so there's clearly no point in saying "you won't get sued" but the Red Cross has NEVER told me not to get involved.

The only time they say that is if you'd be endangering your own life if you tried to render aid.

bhchdh 

Tuck your pant leg into your sock.

lil brown bat

It's what you'll hear in their standard first aid course, yes indeed -- at most, extremely limited interventions, and call 911. I had to go through the instructor cert for this, for no good reason, and there was much more cautioning people what not to do than there was teaching them what to do. Rather a waste of time really.

That's just what I said.

Not exactly. The techniques of assessment and concepts such as mechanism of injury aren't "just common sense", nor are they taught in basic street first aid courses.

That would appear to no longer be the case. Read upthread.

Didn't say they did. Read.

Fantasminha

OP--Glad you're ok.

I had an unpleasant encounter with a crack in the road last year and banged myself up pretty badly. Thankfully someone stopped, got me off the road and called my husband because my hands were shaking so bad I couldn't unlock my phone.

Asking if someone is ok--verbally offering help--is not the same thing as pulling someone out of a car. The lady held out her hand to help me up and I took it. She didn't try to pick me up or anything stupid like that.

pipes

Don't do a thing but talk them maybe a tourniquet if you see a need and can do without much movment . Otherwise talk asure them and call 911 thats my 2 cents .Unless you see an imediatew need to have to move them to save there life . like gas and or fire everytime is diffrent just try to be the calm in the storm.

Duellist

No, Philadelphia. 16th and Market.

Thanks, guys, its nice to hear I'm not alone in finding people heartless while not *being* heartless (i'd like to think).

And to those who referred to me as 'he'-- I'm female.

Popeyecahn

Even more reason to roll up the pant leg...

jyossarian

Philadelphia's the city of brotherly love, not sisterly love. That's why they didn't help you. They were too busy lovin' their brother.

lil brown bat

This is a joke, right?

If not, it's some extremely bad advice.