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Old 02-18-09, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NEXUS
Biopace was designed to save one's knees.
Based on your other thread on gear inches maybe selecting a lower gear and spinning would help without changing chainrings.
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To be honest, I don't have any knee problems but am thinking about upgrading to Biopace because the design seems to be more ergonomical. But then again, Shimano did come out with Biopace2 which looks more like a regular ring so I guess the orginal Biopace design had flaws.
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Originally Posted by NEXUS
To be honest, I don't have any knee problems but am thinking about upgrading to Biopace because the design seems to be more ergonomical. But then again, Shimano did come out with Biopace2 which looks more like a regular ring so I guess the orginal Biopace design had flaws.
Maybe. Could be the only flaw was in the marketing, though.
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Originally Posted by rhm
Maybe. Could be the only flaw was in the marketing, though.
I think the only "flaw" with BioPace was creating a fad technology (scientifically based, but still a fad) in a fad driven hobby at a time when there was rapid advancement in the sport. There have been plenty of other good technologies shuffled to the dark corners of cycling's basement because The Next Big Thing (tm) came along.
Thankfully, some companies realize the benefits of each phase of development throughout cycling's history and manage to keep alive (and even revive) some of these items:
- bar end shifters; replaced by integrated levers, but still seen on a few new bikes
- internally geared hubs; just went out of vogue for a while
- generators; same as IGH, niche item that's making a comeback
- porteur style racks; VO and CETMA still understand why they're good
- cotton bar tape; face it, shellaced cotton tape just looks awesome

And now non-round rings are making a comeback with Rotor Q-Rings.
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Originally Posted by JeffS
Rotor rings are basically the opposite of biopace though, in that they increase diameter as the crank arm approaches horizontal.
mmm... I may have been mistaken when I looked, but it appeared the Q-rings had the ability to mount in any orientation (due to 360 degrees of bolt holes)
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mmm... I may have been mistaken when I looked, but it appeared the Q-rings had the ability to mount in any orientation (due to 360 degrees of bolt holes)
You can mount them any direction, but by design they're meant to be aligned with one of 5 marked holes at a specific position to create the appropriate gains.
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Originally Posted by borgagain

It's a little disconcerting when you're over-pedaling, like doing 35 - 40 MPH downhill, because every stroke seems to snap downward and you can feel the unevenness. Otherwise the bio-pace rings are a real pleasure to use.
Hence the term, "biopacing," which was a term of derision among the roadie elite and the death knell of said chain rings.
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
You can mount them any direction, but by design they're meant to be aligned with one of 5 marked holes at a specific position to create the appropriate gains.
That's what I get for not looking beyond the pictures (trying to see how 'out of round' they really were)
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
You can mount them any direction, but by design they're meant to be aligned with one of 5 marked holes at a specific position to create the appropriate gains.
I'm not sure if they did it intentionally or not but the 360 degree of holes got them a few sales with recumbent owners since the orientation varies from that of a road bike. Actually it varies between different recumbent models and potentially different riders due to other adjustments on the bike.
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Originally Posted by evblazer
I'm not sure if they did it intentionally or not but the 360 degree of holes got them a few sales with recumbent owners since the orientation varies from that of a road bike. Actually it varies between different recumbent models and potentially different riders due to other adjustments on the bike.
If you read up on their site, it seems to be intentional. They discuss the difference in positioning the rings on a racing bike vs. touring bike vs. TT/tri bike, and the reason for the different ovalization of the smallest rings, due to their assumption you're using them while climbing, and their attempt to compensate for angle due to uphill grade.
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In the UK, Highpath Engineering have been making Egg rings for ages. These are all custom made to order and as good quality as Specialities-TA (ie not much is better).
Generally the eccentricity is opposite to Biopace but you can mount them anyway you like. You can chose the degree of eccentricity, tooth count and BCD.
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So which is better, Oval or Biopace?
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