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Old 02-16-09, 09:10 PM
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I seek the wisdom of the Fredi Counsel...

Episode IV: A New Cross Check.

It is a peiod of handlebar unrest. A Rebel cyclist, striking from a hidden base, has purchased his first ever road bike. During the first battle, the Rebel cyclist finds that he really enjoys riding on the hoods. He hates riding in the drops. Disturbed by the uncomfortable agles, the Rebel Cyclist races aboard Bike Forums and asks the question that can save his vertabrae and restore freedom to the galaxy....




Should I try Moustache Bars or Cowhorns?
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Old 02-16-09, 09:54 PM
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I never liked moustache bars. I also have a problem with ancient weapons and hokey religions...
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Old 02-16-09, 10:12 PM
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You mention you don't like the drops, but do you like to get down in a more aerodynamic tuck position once in a while? Try clamp-on TT bar extensions first before changing the whole handlebar set-up.
Another thing to look at: are the 'drop' sections of your current handlebars big enough? I changed mine to a larger size drop with a flatter section (where I'd grip it at the bottom 1/2 of the arc) and that made it a lot more comfy.

Since you don't like the drops on regular road bars, I'd suggest the bullhorns (cowhorns?) if you're really set on a change. If you want to change to a flatter bar, you can always add TT bar extensions to help vary your riding postion on longer rides.
 
Old 02-16-09, 10:32 PM
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Strong the force is in you... one must for a time raise one's bars so that the adjustment to the vertebrae becomes complete.
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Old 02-16-09, 10:54 PM
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Yes, yes, raise the bars young fredi. Do not fear the drops. Fear is the path to the dark side. Travel the path of the high side until you are ready.
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Old 02-17-09, 07:24 AM
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Nitto Technomic riser stem + Mustache bars + bar-end shifters = Comfortable and tasty rides.

Currently using the 3-speed bar from Soma, which is slightly narrower than the Nitto
variety. Can't say enough positive things about this set up. This same cockpit is going
on the MTB very soon.
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Old 02-17-09, 07:35 AM
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Being a Master Sith of the Dark side of the Fredi arts... I say give into your hate of drop bars, and get North road bars... they will make you powerful, and your journey to the dark side will be complete... it is unavoidable, my young fredi.
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Keep the drops. Buy a new stem with more rise. Problem solved.
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Only true Fred Masters rate drop bars. Everything else is for wussy.
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I've got a bad feeling about this...
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I've got a bad feeling about this...
Clever, you are!
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Old 02-17-09, 08:58 AM
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I've got a bad feeling about this...
Beware the power of the dark side.... to 400 watts it can dial up!
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Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
Only true Fred Masters rate drop bars. Everything else is for wussy.
Perhaps you are right, my fellow Wookie-like Fredi.

I just arrived at my secret base on Hoth. I made an effort to use the drops AMAP, I felt the Force flowing through me.....especially downhill.
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Originally Posted by dirty tiger View Post
Perhaps you are right, my fellow Wookie-like Fredi.

I just arrived at my secret base on Hoth. I made an effort to use the drops AMAP, I felt the Force flowing through me.....especially downhill.
...but don't allow yourself to be seduced by the drops for if an imperial cage-cruiser right hooks you unexpectedly while in the drops then the force will certainly flow through you.... like a bad curry!
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I have extensive experience with moustache bars.

Pro: Great control. Great climbing leverage. If you put the brake levers in front, you can be quite aerodyamic without having to bend too much - you're narrow rather than low. Look very cool.

Con: After a really long day (40 miles) not as comfy a drops. No position similar to riding the tops of drop bars. May need a shorter stem if your bike isn't too small for you.
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Old 02-17-09, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCjolsen View Post
... with moustache bars... Look very cool... need a shorter stem...
At least, in my opinion, that's the important bit.

If you're going from drop bars to something more upright, the moustache is a good way to go because it fits the same shifters/brifters (and looks cool). The main disadvantage is you need the shorter stem, otherwise you'll be leaning so far forward that you lose whatever height you gained.
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic View Post
...but don't allow yourself to be seduced by the drops for if an imperial cage-cruiser right hooks you unexpectedly while in the drops then the force will certainly flow through you.... like a bad curry!

This is why R2D2 rides on my rear rack. He can spot cagers coming, and repair battle damage to my bike.

Add I will that long and arduous is the journey of the Fredi. Ended with trekking bars, did my own journey. Many hand positions and seating angles they provide.
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Old 02-17-09, 01:17 PM
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A few questions for the Grey Fredi who have switched to moustache bars.

What brand/size/style stem did you use?

Which style of MB's ?

What bike?
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It's a trap!

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Originally Posted by dirty tiger View Post
A few questions for the Grey Fredi who have switched to moustache bars.

What brand/size/style stem did you use?

Which style of MB's ?

What bike?
Stems: Nitto Tech 90mm riser stem, generic riser stem 40* rise
Mustache bars: Soma 3Speed bars, Nitto mustache bars, Nashbar mustache bars.
Bikes: Lotus road bike w/Soma bars, Nitto stem & barcon shifters
MTB SS conversion w/MTB riser and Nitto bars
Currently building another MTB commuter with the Soma/Nitto setup

Somas are my favorite right now. Maybe it's because they are a slight-bit narrower than the Nittos.
Nashbars are strong, but the reach, and the drop are too deep for my liking.
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Give yourself time to get used to the drops. They're worth the adjustment period - my road bike has them, and it made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.
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Old 02-17-09, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mangosalsa View Post
Stems: Nitto Tech 90mm riser stem, generic riser stem 40* rise
Mustache bars: Soma 3Speed bars, Nitto mustache bars, Nashbar mustache bars.
Bikes: Lotus road bike w/Soma bars, Nitto stem & barcon shifters
MTB SS conversion w/MTB riser and Nitto bars
Currently building another MTB commuter with the Soma/Nitto setup

Somas are my favorite right now. Maybe it's because they are a slight-bit narrower than the Nittos.
Nashbars are strong, but the reach, and the drop are too deep for my liking.
Is there a reason you haven't used the Soma SF Riser Stems? Or are you using one of the Nitto Quills?
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NOw see, this is why I have two commuters. My Raleigh with drop bars (and a lot of personal modifications) can outrun the Imperial ships, and I'm not talking the bulk cruisers, I'm talking the big Corellian ships.

OTOH, my Univega has North Roads bars. It's a bike that I constructed myself. It's very impressive...
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Here's mine.



She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself.
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I switched from drops to moustache bars on my old and busted MTB turned commuter. I did go from a 100mm stem which extended parallel to my TT to a significantly shorter stem with much more rise. I must agree that moustache bars with barends = kinda amazing. I cannot speak to them being uncomfortable after a 40+ miles day as my long commutes top out at 30mi rt.

My moustache bars are the 52cm from nashbar with 9 sp shimano barends.

I cannot give too much detail on the stem as it is the original 1" stem that came on the threaded fork. It gets the clamp area level with the seat.

Bike is early-mid 90s Iron horse AT-50 (ugly, fairly heavy, and a fred-tastic with a used blackburn rack and a milk crate found in an industrial dumpster)
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