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Old 02-18-09, 01:15 PM
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Cyclist rage

Everyone here has seen the "Crazy driver almost killed me!" threads and responses from auto-drivers that range from selfish to the almost psychopathic. What I'm wondering is, is has anyone met/talked to/heard of cyclists who act that way? I've yet to encounter a cyclist who goes ape-**** over "their" lane, but it must happen...

Overall, it seems as if cyclists are much more accomodating to drivers than vice versa. Anyone got anything to add?
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Old 02-18-09, 01:25 PM
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I Haven't. But think about it, its kind of difficult to lose your temper at someone when they are sitting behind a 2 ton+ vehicle and you have nothing.
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Hey speak for yourself. I got this little Bell! bring-bring.. take that you $#@*)( cager
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Hey speak for yourself. I got this little Bell! bring-bring.. take that you $#@*)( cager
I stand corrected. I forgot about people like evblazer, man, they are c r a z y!!
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A driver almost right hooked me yesterday morning. I chased her three blocks and eventually caught up with her and gave her an earful. Probably wasn't worth it.
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My middle finger has a mind of its own. Enough said.
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Usually, by the time I realize what happened, the cager is gone. I doubt they even see my finger.
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I was riding about 20 feet behind another cyclist on a 3-lane (middle turn lane) road on my commute home a few weeks back when a car passed both of us really close. Did it on purpose too, as there was no other traffic around, and the turn lane was totally clear.

I just threw out my usual "middle finger salute", shrugged it off as another idiot and kept pedaling (I was wearing mitten gloves so I don't think my salute had much impact on the driver, but it made me feel better), but the guy in front of me totally blew up. He started spewing profanities and sped up to try and catch up with the guy at the next light. He was roasted and I think it could have been an ugly scene if he could have caught up with the guy.
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I was almost T-boned by a cyclist who blew through a stop sign that I had stopped at and just started through. I said "you have a stop sign there buddy." He responded "so do you," and I said back, "yeah, and I stopped." We gave each other a nasty look and went on our way. Not exactly rage.

I've been in countless near-hit situations on the MUP part of my commute is on coming around blind corners with other cyclists riding two or three abreast. There has never been any rage though.

That said, I expect most cyclists to behave as badly as most cagers, with a different set of regular behavior that is questionable.
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I was riding about 20 feet behind another cyclist on a 3-lane (middle turn lane) road on my commute home a few weeks back when a car passed both of us really close. Did it on purpose too, as there was no other traffic around, and the turn lane was totally clear.

I just threw out my usual "middle finger salute", shrugged it off as another idiot and kept pedaling (I was wearing mitten gloves so I don't think my salute had much impact on the driver, but it made me feel better), but the guy in front of me totally blew up. He started spewing profanities and sped up to try and catch up with the guy at the next light. He was roasted and I think it could have been an ugly scene if he could have caught up with the guy.
Uh, were you behind a big guy with a beard, riding a black Cross Check with full fenders and a handlebar bag? There's a distinct possibility it was me...

I have, on some instances, been "that crazy guy". The one doing a big-ring standing sprint down a hill, chasing after a guy who swung his truck over to try and clip me... Or (ask keithm0 about this one) yelling profanities at the top of my lungs, sprinting up Novelty Hill after a 35 miler, hoping the light would go red on a carload of teenagers who hassled us.
I am still, when I notice the instances of yelling and bad driving are on the rise, the guy who puts 1/2" track spikes in the cleat holes of his left shoe, to give drivers something extra to think about when they get home after trying to crunch me against a line of parked cars.
I have been known, more than once, to dump a full waterbottle of Accelerade on a driver's lap at a red light.

I have seen another rider, angry at the driver laying on his horn while he (cyclist) was keeping pace with traffic, reach back and pull down his shorts to moon said driver for about a quarter mile.
Back in my courier days, I saw another guy from my shop kick someone's side mirror clean off their car. (Back in the day of manual adjust, stick-mounted style mirrors... but still, a hefty kick.)

My all time favourite has to be from last summer, though. I was waiting at a street light a couple blocks from our local skate/bike park. The people in the car behind me had been hassling me for the past couple of blocks; riding my wheel, revving the engine, laying on the horn. Finally, at the light, one of them leans out the window and yells "Hey bike f*g!" Well, I guess the BMX kid coming from the park thought he was the one getting yelled at, because he picked up a decent size rock and whipped it at their car, cracking the back window.
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Uh, were you behind a big guy with a beard, riding a black Cross Check with full fenders and a handlebar bag? There's a distinct possibility it was me...

I have, on some instances, been "that crazy guy". The one doing a big-ring standing sprint down a hill, chasing after a guy who swung his truck over to try and clip me... Or (ask keithm0 about this one) yelling profanities at the top of my lungs, sprinting up Novelty Hill after a 35 miler, hoping the light would go red on a carload of teenagers who hassled us.
I am still, when I notice the instances of yelling and bad driving are on the rise, the guy who puts 1/2" track spikes in the cleat holes of his left shoe, to give drivers something extra to think about when they get home after trying to crunch me against a line of parked cars.
I have been known, more than once, to dump a full waterbottle of Accelerade on a driver's lap at a red light.

I have seen another rider, angry at the driver laying on his horn while he (cyclist) was keeping pace with traffic, reach back and pull down his shorts to moon said driver for about a quarter mile.
Back in my courier days, I saw another guy from my shop kick someone's side mirror clean off their car. (Back in the day of manual adjust, stick-mounted style mirrors... but still, a hefty kick.)

My all time favourite has to be from last summer, though. I was waiting at a street light a couple blocks from our local skate/bike park. The people in the car behind me had been hassling me for the past couple of blocks; riding my wheel, revving the engine, laying on the horn. Finally, at the light, one of them leans out the window and yells "Hey bike f*g!" Well, I guess the BMX kid coming from the park thought he was the one getting yelled at, because he picked up a decent size rock and whipped it at their car, cracking the back window.
man, we gotta ride some time!! sounds like you know how to have fun.
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man, we gotta ride some time!! sounds like you know how to have fun.
I don't know if I'd call some of that stuff "fun," but it sure is entertaining.

We're riding this weekend, aren't we? Chilly Hilly on Sunday!
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Hey speak for yourself. I got this little Bell! bring-bring.. take that you $#@*)( cager
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Apparently over in my neck-of-the-woods there's a bicyclist that has put out some people, including a friend of mine (who also bicycles frequently). Friend was driving at the time, had pulled up to a red light when a bicyclist rides up from behind his car, leans on the door and starts yelling at my friend that he needs to move over to the right so the bicyclist can get by b/c the bicyclist had the "right of way." Bicyclist was not cut off in any way and both friend and cyclist were heading straight, no turns. Bicyclist could have waited behind friend's car, or pulled to the right, or just lane split with no problem - my friend tried explaining what "right of way" meant to no avail.

From the description of the bicyclist, and in the same neighborhood, same guy apparently yelled at a lady in a crosswalk because she wasn't going fast enough.

I would say he has some issues.
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Uh yeah... sometimes I go a little nutty. Nothing too extreme mainly just yelling. This has only happened when I have been A) Passed WAY too close (1' or less), or all to closely and basically intentionally right hooked or B) Harassed or yelled at.

I was biking to school one day a few years ago and some guy gunned it to pass me and then cut me off immediately to make a right turn. I had to jam on my front brake and do a crazy emergency stop move to avoid slamming into the side of his car. So I caught up with him and came on up his left side, his window was open so I said "HEY!" and told him not to cut it so freakin' close. He was actually pretty sheepish about it.

Another fun one... I was coming up to an intersection and I was taking the lane because this was before my filtering days. This car behind me honks for no apparent reason, I look back but pretty much ignore them. Next thing I know the car is WAY too close on my left side. I'm still not at the intersection so I'm still moving and I got so startled I actually punched the car with my right hand. Yes... the car was on my left and I punch it with my right hand. I think they were about 1" off my handlebar. They freaked out and started yelling so I just ran the light (after checking for traffic) and went on my merry way.
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Now and again I've been that guy. Couple of years back a Lincoln passed me too close. I knew it was on purpose because I could see him watching for a reaction in the mirror. I obliged, and this seemed to upset him. He pulled over to yell at me and I watered him as I went by, then all I saw in my mirror was spraying gravel and fishtailing Lincoln. At that point I was considering the foolishness of my hotheaded actions. He passed real close again and pulled off and got out to have it out with me. But I was madder than he was, and he'd gotten out of his car, and I am not a small man. Some pushing and punching and wailing of the passers by followed. I had the opportunity to defuse this, and I didn't take it, and I'm ashamed of that now, but at the time I wanted him dead. The police came by and got on to both of us, but there wasn't really anything they could do except send us on our way. We both should have been charged with assault, I suppose. They had no reason to charge him, tho, because where I live it's not illegal to hassle cyclists. And they couldn't charge me, either, because he'd stopped his car and gotten out. He had let a bicycle rider catch him, and where I live it's also not illegal to hassle morons.
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Now and again I've been that guy. Couple of years back a Lincoln passed me too close. I knew it was on purpose because I could see him watching for a reaction in the mirror. I obliged, and this seemed to upset him. He pulled over to yell at me and I watered him as I went by, then all I saw in my mirror was spraying gravel and fishtailing Lincoln. At that point I was considering the foolishness of my hotheaded actions. He passed real close again and pulled off and got out to have it out with me. But I was madder than he was, and he'd gotten out of his car, and I am not a small man. Some pushing and punching and wailing of the passers by followed. I had the opportunity to defuse this, and I didn't take it, and I'm ashamed of that now, but at the time I wanted him dead. The police came by and got on to both of us, but there wasn't really anything they could do except send us on our way. We both should have been charged with assault, I suppose. They had no reason to charge him, tho, because where I live it's not illegal to hassle cyclists. And they couldn't charge me, either, because he'd stopped his car and gotten out. He had let a bicycle rider catch him, and where I live it's also not illegal to hassle morons.
I don't know about the States, but in Canada if two people agree to fight, no charges can be laid.
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Here in Portland a cyclist flipped out after being lectured about stopping at a stop sign and threw his bike through a guy's front windshield. The motorist turned out to be a bike advocate and (IIRC) was beaten down at the scene by some additional late-arriving bikers (who thought he hit the original cyclist).
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I don't know about the States, but in Canada if two people agree to fight, no charges can be laid.
I like this. Makes sense to me.

What I want to know is, how come in the NHL both participants in a fight get penalized where one party instigates it? Where's your Canadian logic now??







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Here in Blacksburg there's an old guy that rides his bike around and writes tickets if your grass is taller than the designated height. Needless to say, he's grumpy constantly. On more than one occasion (3 times) he's attempted to stop me. Once he yelled "you're speeding!", the 2nd I ran a stop sign, and the third I yelled to make sure some kids would get out of my way.

I'm not stopping for an old fat guy in spandex. (no offense) He's the worst example of an angry cyclist I see a lot.
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Uh, were you behind a big guy with a beard, riding a black Cross Check with full fenders and a handlebar bag? There's a distinct possibility it was me...
116th in Bellevue, near Overlake Hospital?

I lust let the incidents go. Maybe I am just lucky, but negative interactions with drivers have not happened to me that often and the ones that have are not worth my time/energy to provoke a confrontation.
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Lesee, I was driving for the first time in at least a week when a cyclist kicked my car for some imagined infraction.

When my wife gripes about some cyclist screamed at her / almost ran into her / etc. it's usually because the cyclist is being a dumbass and riding on the sidewalk / not paying attention / not having lights at night / etc.
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Here in Portland a cyclist flipped out after being lectured about stopping at a stop sign and threw his bike through a guy's front windshield. The motorist turned out to be a bike advocate and (IIRC) was beaten down at the scene by some additional late-arriving bikers (who thought he hit the original cyclist).


I have seen many crap bikers with bad attitudes. Getting angry and assaulting a motorist does no good. When I get cut off, I shrug it off. Maybe they were not paying attention for a split second, maybe there child just passed away, what if it was a family member of mine etc. Anger has no place, especially on the road. Cyclist seem to get as angry and irrational as drivers, and have on point of view. When you assume that everyone is trying to kill you, you become irrational.
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Here in Portland a cyclist flipped out after being lectured about stopping at a stop sign and threw his bike through a guy's front windshield. The motorist turned out to be a bike advocate and (IIRC) was beaten down at the scene by some additional late-arriving bikers (who thought he hit the original cyclist).
I remember that one -- there was a thread here about it soon afterwards.
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I remember that one -- there was a thread here about it soon afterwards.
And wasn't the cyclist drunk? Or am I mis-remembering?
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