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Old 02-24-09, 01:54 PM
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Can't let my beaters stay beaters!!

Am I crazy here? Do any of the rest of you have problems allowing your beaters to stay beaters?

I am in love with the idea of a beater and have two bikes that qualify for the title, but my problem is that I am CONSTANTLY planning to upgrade them...

Just this morning I have been making plans to replace my 1982 peugeot frame with a 2009 Jake the Snake frameset. "This would be so much more versatile" I tell myself due to the fact that I can run bigger tires and fenders on the JTS. I can only get 28's on with fenders on the Peugeot.

Ok, fine....except that I ALREADY HAVE A FULL BLOWN MAJOR JAKE THAT I DON'T WANT TO COMMUTE ON for fear of theft!

I absolutely love both frames (the major jake and the peugeot) and commute on both of them often. But lately I am driven to ride my beater to protect the "good stuff". do I really want to replicate the Major Jake with a JTS? Wouldn't that just cause me to want to rebuild my "beater" frame again because I would want to protect the JTS? I know there is no real argument for doing so except to be able to squeeze that Nokian 106 onto my "commuting" bike (its not like I can't just commute on the Major Jake when the roads turn Icy".
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Old 02-24-09, 03:15 PM
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I definitely have the same problem. I started commuting on a GT Timberline (which although new was definitely a beater). I got a Kona Jake to be my "nice bike" and suddenly discovered that I couldn't stand the sight of the Timberline anymore. So I bought a Marin Muirwoods to be my "bad weather" bike. I just finished upgrading the Marin to a full XT drive train, and I'm in the process of stepping the Jake up to Ultegra components.

Trouble is, now I've got a drawer full of enough components to make two more bikes, and I can't help thinking these frames aren't worthy of the components I've got on them. So, if I bought a Major Jake frameset, I could move the Ultegra components there and put the Tiagra group back on the Jake. But then I probably wouldn't be satisfied with those components.... And so on.
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I definitely have the same problem. I started commuting on a GT Timberline (which although new was definitely a beater). I got a Kona Jake to be my "nice bike" and suddenly discovered that I couldn't stand the sight of the Timberline anymore. So I bought a Marin Muirwoods to be my "bad weather" bike. I just finished upgrading the Marin to a full XT drive train, and I'm in the process of stepping the Jake up to Ultegra components.

Trouble is, now I've got a drawer full of enough components to make two more bikes, and I can't help thinking these frames aren't worthy of the components I've got on them. So, if I bought a Major Jake frameset, I could move the Ultegra components there and put the Tiagra group back on the Jake. But then I probably wouldn't be satisfied with those components.... And so on.
LOL, YEP, sounds like you have the disease too. That is how a stable grows from one to many and still fails to satisfy.
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LOL, YEP, sounds like you have the disease too. That is how a stable grows from one to many and still fails to satisfy.
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I do commute on this



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And, since Christmas, this



If it's in my garage, I'll ride it to work
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Same issue here... I bought a MTB used ages ago. Fast forward 8 years-ish , looking to replace the suspension with a rigid fork, new headset/stem/bars. I'm looking to convert it to Monster Cross, probably end up spending more than I did when I bought the bike...lol
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I am also infected by upgrade****itus. I currently have my everyday bike which is my road bike and a beater mtb, road, and 2 vintage rebuilds in the works. They are all in working order now and ride quite well. Because of that I will probably be ordering or 2-3 set of some tires, pedals, and maybe wheels in the future.
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I am also infected by upgrade****itus. I currently have my everyday bike which is my road bike and a beater mtb, road, and 2 vintage rebuilds in the works. They are all in working order now and ride quite well. Because of that I will probably be ordering or 2-3 set of some tires, pedals, and maybe wheels in the future.
Agreed...because if it runs great now, it will run even better with new wheels
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I tend to do nearly the opposite. My beaters become more and more beat up. Eventually, something gets so worn out that I replace the bike rather than just parts that have broken... and i replace it with another beater. Oh, and when parts break, I don't upgrade, I just replace with either whatever's lying around, or with something cheap from Nashbar.

I got rid of all my non-working bikes (I still have a large collection of usable parts though) so I only have two bikes. Both are definitely beaters.
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I just picked up a 20" 1990 Trek 950 for $60 at Goodwill. This is a True Temper DB chrome moly lugged frame bike. Already considering upgrades/changes after the original cables and tires are replaced. The cables and tires need it but anything beyond is gilding the lily.
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If I have a "beater" for any period of time it inevitably gets upgraded and tweaked so that it's not a beater anymore and even if they look a little rough from the outside, I put a lot of work into them to make them mechanically perfect.

My old winter beater that has become a fixed gear tourer... it is going to get the new SA SX3 fixed hub as soon as they become available through my supplier.

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Well, since I'm poor, this doesn't happen much. Swapping handlebars and pedals, yes. Swapping wheels and shifting mechanisms, not so much. Hell, I've still got the "original" (to me) tires on my Univega. They don't match, the one that should be on the front is on the back, and they're cracking. Oh well...one of these days.
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I bought my Kona Blast and rode it stock for about a month before I put all XT right down to the hubs and hydraulic disc. I turn it into a 700c commuter and then back to it's original after I bought my Cross Check. I decided not to upgrade the Cross Check by buying the frame and putting mostly Ultegra on it from the start. Oh well, there's always Dura Ace.
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Originally Posted by tatfiend View Post
I just picked up a 20" 1990 Trek 950 for $60 at Goodwill. This is a True Temper DB chrome moly lugged frame bike. Already considering upgrades/changes after the original cables and tires are replaced. The cables and tires need it but anything beyond is gilding the lily.


That's such a nice frame, how could you call it a beater?
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My justification for a second bike is as an experiment platform.
For example trying out a new handlebar configuration on it without putting my normal commuter out of commision in the process.
This also tends to keep all the tinkering on just the one experiment frame... with the occasional transfer to the nice bike if an experiment was worth keeping.
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Similar problem to the OP...I got my Cannondale BB because it was so freekin ugly and I wanted a commuter I wouldn't care about if damaged.
This all changed after about two days when I realized how perfect the geometry and set up was for me ie. a dream to ride.
I've added some colour, replaced the rear deraileur with ultegra, swapped the cluster over to a 105 and changed it to a double. (love it even more now) I'd be devo'ed if the paint got damaged. Furthermore...I avoid the rain with it and now ride my old mama chari on rainy days.
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That's such a nice frame, how could you call it a beater?
Easy to call it a beater at a $60 price and with dinged up paint as well as a small handlebar hit ding in the top tube. Also the casette was practically filled with a dirt and chain oil mixture and signs that at least one owner was not a believer in washing it.

What looked like motorcycle brake cables and housings fitted too. Too large in housing diameter to fit the cable stops properly, even w/o ferrules on the cables. Also housings unlined and rusty. Changed those already. It needs some TLC and new tires to even be a reliable and safe beater bike.
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Oh yeah. I just got delivery confirmation from FedEx that I have about $250 of parts from JensonUSA sitting at my house, awaiting installation on a bike that might fetch $60.

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My justification for a second bike is as an experiment platform.
For example trying out a new handlebar configuration on it without putting my normal commuter out of commision in the process.
This also tends to keep all the tinkering on just the one experiment frame... with the occasional transfer to the nice bike if an experiment was worth keeping.
Wouldn't that require holding as many things constant between the two bikes as possible? How do you manage that?
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Similar predicament as the OP.

Had a miyata fixed gear for my all arounder.

Bought and built up a '08 Cross check with 1x9, fenders, racks, the works to be my commuter and foul weather bike. Well now with it all snowy, slushy and salty conditions out on the roads i don't want to take it out, otherwise i'll spend a good amount of time having to clean it, which has already happened enough times this winter.

neither of those bikes get left alone overnight, specially the surly.

Picked up two 'beaters' yesterday to solve two problems:
1.) wanted a bike with racks, fenders and with single speed gearing for foul weather commuting(snow, slush, salt) and not worry about maintenance.
2.) a single speed beater to use as a bar/party cruising bike, something i can lock up outside over night where ever and not worry about a thing.

Sooooo i spent 30-40min out in the shed figuring out which one is going to be which, and of course how much $$$ i'm going to have to put into these free bikes to get them rolling. Hopefully the wheels are true enough.
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Yeah, I just bought a $200 wheelset and $350 worth of drivetrain parts for a bike I paid $125 for that's over 20 years old...I just built a "nice" commuter Waterford too. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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I have beaters for the bikes that are beaters for the beaters. Really.
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