School Busses
Regarding School Busses - It occured to me this morning as I was waiting for one to load in my card, that a bicyclist might be inclined to wait with the traffic rather than riding past. However, I noticed a sidewalk and wondered how folks wold feel if a bicyclist got off their bike and walked past the bus then got back on and kept riding before the cars were allowed to pass. Would that be an infringement in traffic law? I don't think so. Personally I think it's fine if the bicyclist rides past the bus - but I know we're supposed to follow the same laws.
What do we think about walking our bikes past a loading school bus? |
The bus is going to pass you again 1/4mi up the road, so what's the difference if you sit and wait, vs. repeatedly hopping on/off and walking past it?
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interesting point but I was referring to a bus going in the other direction
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hmm, I never thought about that, I've stopped for the bus while driving in the winter but haven't been past one while commuting. The bus technically has a stop sign and some states have those laws allowing bikes to carefully roll through a stop sign or red light, wonder if that applies? Wonder about the people on bikes who don't stop at stop signs, do they not stop for busses either?
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Walking by a shoolbus is perfectly legal. Just give it plenty of room before getting back onto the bike so there's no question that you were walking - not riding - the whole way past. The driver will be watching and they love to report people who illegally pass.
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Walking is legal. Cycling or driving is not.
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Don't care will pass.
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Being able to take walking shortcuts is one of the perks of being a bike commuter, that's the privilege of not being in a car. It's what I'd do.
Originally Posted by BroadSTPhilly
(Post 8611597)
Don't care will pass.
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Originally Posted by anastrophe
(Post 8611624)
Being able to take walking shortcuts is one of the perks of being a bike commuter, that's the privilege of not being in a car. It's what I'd do.
Really? Would you care if you hit a child? Unless you maybe assumed he rides blindfolded.... |
I always wait, since that's required by law, and people do not take that law lightly around here; two kids have been killed by impatient people in the local school districts in the last 10 years and people remember that. A cyclist would probably at least get the stinkeye, a car is likely to be chased down to get the plate number and 911'd in, and the cops WILL come and bust their asses for it.
There aren't any sidewalks on my route, so I'd have to walk on the road. Since you're supposed to not drive within 100 feet of a stopped bus, which is 30 feet long or so, I'd have to walk 230 feet to get past a stopped bus. There's no point in walking past that, by the time I walked that far, I could have just waited and gone when the flashers whent off. When the flashers go off, I will either pass or not depending on the area of my route. There are some areas where the bus stops are so numerous and close together that I can easily outdistance the bus; in those areas I'll pass, sprint for a bit to keep ahead of the bus until the next stop, then I'm good. If the next stop is a long way off, I wait behind. |
Originally Posted by apricissimus
(Post 8611684)
I think you misread the post. He said "will pass", not "will hit a child."
Unless you maybe assumed he rides blindfolded.... |
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 8611002)
What do we think about walking our bikes past a loading school bus?
I take the lane, stop and wait. |
I would never even consider it. I am a vehicle on the road. I stop and wait. My viewpoint is: I have the same rights as all vehicles, I act like vehicle, and I expect to be treated as one in return.
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Originally Posted by apricissimus
(Post 8611684)
I think you misread the post. He said "will pass", not "will hit a child."
Unless you maybe assumed he rides blindfolded.... Sounds more like a justification by an impatient person than a reason to me... |
Ja, I always stop and wait for the kids to get on the bus. I hadn't thought about walking past, but that would be completely legal. I might do that next time I get stopped right when the bus stops.
I find other riders will only stop if I'm stopped. Seriously. I've seen guys ride right through the bus stop sign, but stop if someone else is there. Peer pressure, I guess. |
Originally Posted by hnsq
(Post 8612088)
You could use the same argument to pass while driving, couldn't you?
Sounds more like a justification by an impatient person than a reason to me... |
A question for people who would get off and walk:
Would you consider staying on the bike, but riding at a walking pace? |
Originally Posted by apricissimus
(Post 8612279)
A question for people who would get off and walk:
Would you consider staying on the bike, but riding at a walking pace? stay seated but push with my feet on the ground. |
Originally Posted by modernjess
(Post 8612052)
I would never even consider it. I am a vehicle on the road. I stop and wait. My viewpoint is: I have the same rights as all vehicles, I act like vehicle, and I expect to be treated as one in return.
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Originally Posted by mangosalsa
(Post 8612374)
Yes. But only in the case where the bus is in the opposite lane from mine. I may even
stay seated but push with my feet on the ground. |
If you are walking your bicycle, then you are a pedestrian and you follow the laws that apply to pedestrians. Simply put, it's perfectly legal to walk your bicycle past a stopped schoolbus.
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Originally Posted by apricissimus
(Post 8612279)
A question for people who would get off and walk:
Would you consider staying on the bike, but riding at a walking pace? |
Originally Posted by BroadSTPhilly
(Post 8611597)
Don't care will pass.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 8611002)
wondered how folks wold feel if a bicyclist got off their bike and walked past the bus then got back on and kept riding before the cars were allowed to pass. Would that be an infringement in traffic law? I don't think so.
Originally Posted by enine
(Post 8611187)
The bus technically has a stop sign and some states have those laws allowing bikes to carefully roll through a stop sign or red light, wonder if that applies?
Originally Posted by jeffpoulin
(Post 8612614)
I straddled the bike and with one foot on the bottom pedal and one on the ground, started to push and roll the bike for the exit (note, just rolling at a walking pace, not pedaling).
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