Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Need Advice Re: Building Manager who won't allow bikes on a public parking sign

Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Need Advice Re: Building Manager who won't allow bikes on a public parking sign

Old 07-17-09, 11:29 PM
  #26  
TiberiusBTkirk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 310
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
sorry I don't have any advice.
I'm just kinda concerned. that looks like a nice bike
and I have a feeling the facilities manager will give every excuse in the book for you to not to lock your bike there. mainly security reasons, remember the bomber at the recruiting station across the street?
and then if she calls the cops the cops will probably be on her side or even give the same security excuse.
the pole being city property they're cut it ASAP.
TiberiusBTkirk is offline  
Old 07-17-09, 11:30 PM
  #27  
CB HI
Cycle Year Round
 
CB HI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 13,644
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1316 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 59 Posts
Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
Section 7-210 of the NYC Administrative Code makes property owners potentially liable for personal injuries caused by their failure to maintain reasonably safe sidewalks. Property owners must keep their sidewalks clean and are also responsible for snow removal.
- Straight from the NYC DOT web site.

It's a liability issue. If someone trips over your bike they can sue the building owner.
The ordnance is for snow and ice removal. It does not apply to other things like bikes owned by others. Maybe, you think that under this ordnance, the building owner has the right to cut the no parking sign down, because someone might run into it; after all, it is a liability thing.
CB HI is offline  
Old 07-17-09, 11:35 PM
  #28  
CB HI
Cycle Year Round
 
CB HI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 13,644
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1316 Post(s)
Liked 92 Times in 59 Posts
The building owner does not have the right to enforce any regulations or no parking on public property. Your problem is: she does have the right to call the police and report a parking violation. Other NYC cyclist have posted about it being illegal to lock to either a tree or public sign. And the NYPD has been reported as being jerks towards cyclist ever since the RNC convention, including cutting locks and impounding bikes.
CB HI is offline  
Old 07-17-09, 11:50 PM
  #29  
drew55
Daily Commuter-Tampa, FL
 
drew55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tampa
Posts: 399

Bikes: Orbea Ora, Cannondale R800, old Cannondale, murry mountain bike, EZ Rider recombent

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Have you tried taking this to TA - Transportation Alternatives? They're the cycling advocacy group for NYC and general area.
__________________
It's always windy - just get out and ride

League of American Bicyclist LCI 3144
♥♥ Please support riders if you can ♥♥
.
drew55 is offline  
Old 07-18-09, 07:40 AM
  #30  
Skoal
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Start off nice to Rosie. But if she does not see the light someone should leave a junker bike at that sign forever.
Skoal is offline  
Old 07-18-09, 07:47 AM
  #31  
I_bRAD
Call me The Breeze
 
I_bRAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cooper Ontario
Posts: 3,701

Bikes: 2004 Litespeed Siena, 1996 Litespeed Obed, 1992 Miele (unknown model), 1982 Meile Uno LS.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by fuzzywhat View Post
telling me I couldn't park there..
"As you can see, apparently I can!" *continues about my day*

I'm not sure where Rosie fits in though. Maybe she should get a bike too.
I_bRAD is offline  
Old 07-20-09, 07:59 PM
  #32  
Mr IGH
afraid of whales
 
Mr IGH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Front Range, CO
Posts: 4,306
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 347 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Stupid question, could the issues be a post 9/11 security issue? I know you can't leave bags just laying around on the street in front of a building...what's different about putting something bad inside a bike frame?
Mr IGH is offline  
Old 07-20-09, 08:18 PM
  #33  
Face-Plant
........
 
Face-Plant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: WNC, USA.
Posts: 98

Bikes: Surly - LHT, Stumpjumper FSR Comp

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well, it is a no parking sign...

This must be her logic in why she does not want anyone parking in this spot...

Any way, I would be cool when talking with the build manager, and see if you all can come up with an alternative that would please you both..
Face-Plant is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 03:54 AM
  #34  
ridestockholm
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
https://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in.../t-317088.html

Before you see the manager, perhaps you need to find out if it is legal/illegal to do what you are doing. If it's not legal to do it, then no point in talking to her, cuz no matter what, all she has to do is call the cops, who in turn can come, saw through your lock, and take your bike..
ridestockholm is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 07:37 AM
  #35  
Kabir424
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts


There have actually been a number of bikes incinerated/destroyed because of that sticker. It's actually the name of a pretty good folk-punk bank.
Kabir424 is offline  
Old 07-28-09, 09:06 AM
  #36  
maddyfish
Senior Member
 
maddyfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ky. and FL.
Posts: 3,944

Bikes: KHS steel SS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Any updates on this?
maddyfish is offline  
Old 07-28-09, 09:46 AM
  #37  
wunderkind
Pro Paper Plane Pilot
 
wunderkind's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,645
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
An alternate parking spot has to be better than the current location. It is locked in the middle of NYC. Yikes. It's waiting to be scavenged.
wunderkind is offline  
Old 07-28-09, 09:48 AM
  #38  
lukasz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NYC - where bicycles go to die
Posts: 1,313
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Seriously, I can't believe you still have a bicycle considering where it is locked up.
lukasz is offline  
Old 07-28-09, 11:46 AM
  #39  
chephy
Two H's!!! TWO!!!!!
 
chephy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 4,267
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts
Originally Posted by Mr IGH View Post
Stupid question, could the issues be a post 9/11 security issue? I know you can't leave bags just laying around on the street in front of a building...what's different about putting something bad inside a bike frame?
Yeah, and then there are cars. What's different about parking a car on a side of the road or on a parking lot?
chephy is offline  
Old 07-28-09, 06:28 PM
  #40  
unterhausen
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 23,140
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 2,713 Times in 1,887 Posts
I just had a batch of bumper stickers made up that say "this car is a rolling time bomb." --------s that pass me too close are going to be really surprised when they find out the bomb squad just incinerated their car.
unterhausen is offline  
Old 07-29-09, 12:12 PM
  #41  
dynaryder
PatronSaintOfDiscBrakes
 
dynaryder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: BicycleSPACE warehouse in SW Washington DC
Posts: 6,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
^^^ And you made sure to keep your fingerprints off them,right? And paid in cash and shipped to a PO box?
__________________

C'dale BBU('05 and '09)/Super Six/Hooligan8and 3,Kona Dew Deluxe,Novara Buzz/Safari,Surly Big Dummy,Marin Pt Reyes,Giant Defy 1,Schwinn DBX SuperSport,Dahon Speed Pro TT,Brompton S6L/S2E-X
dynaryder is offline  
Old 07-29-09, 01:59 PM
  #42  
Booger1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Gaseous Cloud around Uranus
Posts: 3,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Is the building owner liable if I hit the sign with no bike attached?How about a tree or two.What if I stub my toe on the sidewalk,fall down and break my leg in front of her building,is she liable for that too?If somebody parks a wheelchair there,she going to call the cops?If the sidewalk is old and lumpy,can she demand that the city come and replace the complete sidewalk since she has to shoulder the responsibility,must have a perfect sidewalk if there are going to be lawsuits!

This is silly,it's a public sidewalk and your the public.
Booger1 is offline  
Old 07-29-09, 02:10 PM
  #43  
wunderkind
Pro Paper Plane Pilot
 
wunderkind's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,645
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Booger1 View Post

This is silly,it's a public sidewalk and your the public.
... not sidepark nor designated bike stall.
If the building mgr wants to really mess you up, he/she can call the city and have the bike removed.
wunderkind is offline  
Old 07-29-09, 04:37 PM
  #44  
ken cummings
Senior Member
 
ken cummings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: northern California
Posts: 5,603

Bikes: Bruce Gordon BLT, Cannondale parts bike, Ecodyne recumbent trike, Counterpoint Opus 2, miyata 1000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rosie the building manager is responsible for keeping the tenants happy. Ok, you said the company you work for is a tenant. Ask your supervisor is you can talk to whomever in your company handles the contract with the building owners. Say why. If you can get your company on your side, a quiet note to Rosie from someone in Admin, someone who could conceivably recommend that you all move to some other building, can have an amazing effect.
ken cummings is offline  
Old 07-29-09, 04:50 PM
  #45  
Mr. Underbridge
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 2,369

Bikes: 2003 Giant OCR2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
Rosie the building manager is responsible for keeping the tenants happy. Ok, you said the company you work for is a tenant. Ask your supervisor is you can talk to whomever in your company handles the contract with the building owners. Say why. If you can get your company on your side, a quiet note to Rosie from someone in Admin, someone who could conceivably recommend that you all move to some other building, can have an amazing effect.
+1, this is almost always the best way to work things, if you can get your company to do it. Money talks.

I had success with that tactic when my health insurance company denied a claim that was brain-dead obvious (they claimed that going to the ER wasn't medically necessary even though I was admitted to the hospital for a week with a life-threatening condition). I fought it with the insurance company for 6 months to no effect. My HR representative solved it in 2 days.

Find out who your facilities manager (or similar) is.
Mr. Underbridge is offline  
Old 08-03-09, 08:04 AM
  #46  
fuzzywhat
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ended up just parking it across the street the next few times, but the weather has been so rainy that I haven't biked in for a while. But when I do park my bike across the street, vendors end up surrounding the bike and kind of protecting it.

So that NYC law forcing office buildings to allow bikes in via the freight elevator just passed last week, so there is no point in arguing with Rosie now! My boss is completely open to me bringing my bike into my office, but the question is when the law will start being implemented and how much of a hassle waiting for the freight elevator will be. Rosie will probably be very annoyed having to succumb to this new law.
fuzzywhat is offline  
Old 08-04-09, 10:14 AM
  #47  
fredgarvin7
Senior Member
 
fredgarvin7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 371
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
"Rosie will probably be very annoyed having to succumb to this new law."

After you start bringing your bike in the bldg, be sure to walk it by her office every day and give her a big grin and do "happy feet" as you go by!
fredgarvin7 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.