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Old 08-07-09, 07:28 PM
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I am getting a Trek FX 7.9.... Anything I should worry about?

I bought a Trek FX 7.2 and after a couple of months of riding the trails in manhattan, I got addicted and am upgrading to the FX 7.9

I was planning on getting an '09 model but it appears that the '10 is coming out this month.

I am not a professional cyclist. I just want something insane quick. I usually just ride in jeans and a tshirt

has anyone heard anything negative about the 7.9's? I have read review all over the internet and 99% have been favorable... so I am just wondering.... i will not be commuting with this. it's going to be my weekend joyride - seeing maybe 0-30 miles a week. LOL...

thanks in advance guys.
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Old 08-07-09, 07:47 PM
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Here's something you should worry about: MSRP $2,749.99


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you should worry about everyone laughing at you.
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You kind of put this in the wrong forum, given your statement that you aren't going to be commuting, so expect more comments like the above.

The bike rides wonderfully and will certainly allow you to reach a higher potential top speed than most other flat bar bikes. You should expect great performance out of it, but you may get slightly more rational reviews in the Road Cycling forum (but I'm sure there will be a few "BUT THERE ISN'T DROP BARS!!!" comments.)
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I did alot of research on the FX series... no negatives that I could find. The componentry upgrade is nice; I can see why you'd want to upgrade. If it fits you and brings you joy, that's the important thing. If you really enjoy what you ride, you will ride more
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I appreciate the replies - even the first couple l0l

On my 7.2 fx, i was able to get up to about 26mph on a downhill but my average speed on flats was like 10mph... so i am getting the 7.9 in the hopes that i get better avg speeds on the flats.

what i really got addicted to was the 'pick up' on the 7.2... meaning, in the right gear, i would really slam on the pedals and the bike would lurch forward really quickly..... so i hope that improves with the 7.9 as well....

are there any problems i should be worried about with the carbon frame? i understand that if i wreck, the carbon may be damaged but if i dont wreck, will it hold up to abuse like an aluminum frame would? i know i have a lifetime warranty on the frame but i dont want to find out the hard way that getting a carbon bike was not the right thing to do.... and by abuse, i mean things like (small) potholes, bumps, uneven pavement, etc.

also - i have asked other people but i want to ask on here as well - is there any other COMPARABLE bike to the 7.9 fx but in another brand -- leaving roadbikes out of the equation....

i asked around and it appears that this is the best, most high-end hybrid out on the market but perhaps some of you guys may know some other models....? simply for comparisons sake...

i appreciate it!

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Since this bike won't be used for commuting, this might not be the best forum to ask opinions on this bike. Going to the road cycling forum might be more appropriate but be warned that you might receive some criticism because this is a flat bar road bike and does not have drops.

For commuting purposes, I don't find the arguments of drop bars being superior to flat bars all that valid. Honestly, do you really need to be tucked down in a more aero positon in downtown Manhattan? No, you want to be more upright to help with your visibility as you ride with the traffic. For this application flat bars work just fine or even better as all of your controls are readily available in one single, more upright position for urban riding. Need more positions? Add bar ends or upgrade to a trekking bar. But again, this is for a commuting application.

For weekend fun, and for that type of money, you might want to at least consider something with drops. I too was fearful of drop bars until I tried out a Specialized Tricross for a commuting rig and I was actually very suprised on how comfortable I was in all the positions the drops offered (and keep in mind I was practice while riding along side and with traffic on my first ride on this bike). I'm sure within time I would become even more comfortable on it as a commuter bike. So for going fast and having fun, try out something with drops, the guys in the TDF use them for a reason.
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My troll senses are tingling here, but I'll bite.

Above 11ish MPH, wind resistance is what holds you back (aside from physical ability, which is the main factor.) Reducing wind resistance (lower bars, using drops) will get your top speed up a little on the flats. You'll be slower downhill, since there's less gravitational pull from the reduced weight. You'll accelerate a little quicker, but not more then a few %. I vote buy a light wheelset for the 7.2fx.

That's a lot of money for a bike not meant for going fast, have you ever ridden a road bike? 3 grand will get you a good one, will it help much? Not really, it's the rider, not the bike.

It's a top quality mass produced bike. But I have the same reaction seeing a $1000+ hybrid bike as I get seeing a Hybrid SUV, I laugh. By all means get one, but don't expect to see any real results, that comes from training.

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if you really want more speed by spending 2300, at least get a bike with drops. Decreased wind resistance = more speed. But like Tater said, it's the rider not the bike.
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You should also check out a specialized Sirrus. I'm not a fan of the bontrager race wheels. For the price of the 9 you could deck out your current ride with some better stuff. Spend half of the price of the 9 on a nice wheelset for the weekend and you'd be laughing.
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wow!! Alomst $3K and you are still only getting 105 grouping?? Kinda Pricey....
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For commuting purposes, I don't find the arguments of drop bars being superior to flat bars all that valid. Honestly, do you really need to be tucked down in a more aero positon in downtown Manhattan?
PRECISELY why I am not considering a bike with dropped bars. The speed + visibility i have on my 7.2 was great so I wanted to take it to the next step... i did 30 mile rides on my 7.2 very very comfortably - only problem was some numbness in the arms/hands but even that wasnt such a huge deal. i am buying the bike for speed + comfort. i want the fastest bike i can buy without having to get drop bars, essentially...

As for the 105 groupset, yeah, i felt the same way... why only the 105's on such an expensive bike? i asked the bikeshop to swap out for better derailers but the person was adament - saying that the stock components are 'excellent enough' and that swapping out any stock component on the 7.9 would not be worth it....

the only difference i think that justifies the price jump from the 7.7 to the 7.9 is the carbon frame... i think that's why the price is so high and, not knowing too much about bikes, im assuming it'll make a huge difference on the ride quality....?

the 7.7 has a few carbon components and is about $1900... i was considering this and ruled it out just to 'get the best thing out there'..... lol...

I also considered getting the madone 5.1 and throwing flat bars on it until i saw this thread https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/503688-most-insane-bike-you-will-ever-see.html

roflmao! i would not have gone all out with mirrors, rear rack etc but that bike doesnt look right to me... hhahahaa... but i give much props to the owner.

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Lmao, guy, put it twards retirement or something constructive. You won't go any faster on a 20,000 dollar bike over a 200 dollar one. Light bikes only make extremely fit, highly trained athletes faster. Sure it will feel faster, but once the buyers high wears off, you're left with $3000 less, and nothing gained. If you want a noticeable improvement in acceleration, improve the drive train (chain, wheels, cranks, cassette, tires, pedals) of your current bike, and lose 5-10lbs of body weight for far, far less. Rotational mass and drive train weight make more of a difference then a few pounds of frame/component weight. A stupidly light bite improves your cycling ability about as much as $500 shoes improve your basketball skills. Not at all.
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Potato, you make some excellent points... now you have me second guessing... LOLOL......
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Good deal. Give the money you save to a single mom who can't feed her kids, or a homeless family (yay mini recession.)

Live smart, and you'll find happiness, buying things will never do that.
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I have a 7.7FX and while I enjoy it, I wish I had gotten a drop bar bike. The bike is quick and nice to ride in the city, but if speed is a concern, it'll be the wind resistance that slows you down. These bikes come with 58cm wide bars, which unless you're really big, will open you up like a sail. The 7.9 comes with CF handlebars too, so you can't even trim down the bars without running the risk of destroying them.

My other main commuting bike is an old Cannondale touring bike. It weighs at least 5lbs more than the 7.7, has lower end components, heavier wheels and tires, and 42cm drop bars. Despite that, my average speed on longish rides (over 20 miles) is about the same on the Cannondale as it is on the 7.7. The 7.7 accelerates quicker, but just doesn't hold its speed on the flats. My cruising speed on the Cannondale is slightly higher which I attribute to the more aerodynamic position.

The last point is what do you really want to do with this bike? It's really a flat bar road bike, not a commuter. There are two reasons I say this. First, while CF frames are sexy and all, I'm not sure how well they would hold up to the rigors of commuting. Commuting bikes (if you use them year round) take a fair amount of abuse. Second, it's way too nice as a commuter to leave locked up in NYC. Perhaps if you only ride it to work and have secure storage there (e.g. a bike locker), that could work, but I hear horror stories of how even the best locks are defeated by professional theives in NYC.

With all that said, if you want to get the 7.9, perhaps you could look for a used one. I just saw a used 07 or 08 model 7.9FX last month while on vacation. A bike shop I visited had one in very good condition for $900. At that price, it's quite attractive. Craigslist, e-bay, bike shops, and bike swaps may be worth checking out. I'd think twice about dropping almost $3k on a new one though, but it's your money and your choice.
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^ Where exactly did you see it for that price? Which bike shop? I ask because I scoured so many sites and the highest fx i came across for sale (used) was a 7.5... i have not seen any others being sold (7.7 or 7.9) used....

i have contacted a few bike shops and asked if they had and used 7.9's but i had no luck on my search.

you're right - i would not be commuting with it nor do i have a bike locker. in nyc, any NEW BIKE (crappy or high-end) is suseptible to being stolen so i dont even bother. i take my bike out on weekends only, for a nice 2-4 hour ride per day, that's all. i have heard about $1k bikes being stolen and $200 bikes being stripped for parts, so the last thing i would ever do is even leave my 7.2 locked up somewhere - dont even mention the 7.9! lol
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^^^ I saw it at Bath Cycle and Ski in Woolwich, Maine. (a.k.a. www.bikeman.com). The bike was in the back of their shop in their used bike coral. Don't know if they still have it. I was there a month ago.
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No real opinion on the 7.9 but I do want to give my opinion on some comments made regarding the suitability of drop bars and CF frames for commuting.

I ride a drop bar bike for about 2/3 of the year. In the winter I use a flat bar MTB. To be honest I don't really see a disadvantage to drop bars from a visibility standpoint. In my case anyway, my head isn't so much lower that it makes a significant difference. I can see over all cars and can't see over any buses regardless of which bike I ride.

With the drop bar road bike I can choose to ride on the hoods in traffic if I wish and my controls are still at my finger tips. The bike is a mix of aluminum and CF but I'd have no qualms about it standing up to the "rigors of commuting" if it were all CF. The people I know that own CF bikes put serious miles on them, - far more than the average commuter does. There's a guy in my building who commutes on his CF tri-bike. He does a few iron man and half iron man triathlons a year along with all the training that goes with them. Now that's a bike that gets used.

Everyone's commute is different. I don't think mine is particularly hard on my bike. My group rides are a different story. Some of the roads are rough. Any bumps and holes I don't manage to avoid are hit at high speeds. I shift under load far more often. I'm frequently pushing the bike to its limits along with myself. I ride often ride hard while commuting too, but the intensity is never quite as high for as long a period of time.

I'm not saying everyone should rush out and get a CF road bike for commuting, just that the fragility concerns are overblown. Same with drops. They work very well for many commuters but not everyone is going to be comfortable with them.
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A $3000 hybrid? Yeah, there's plenty you should worry about...

Constructively: It sounds like you want a road bike.
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If you want a flat bar road bike with a carbon frame it's probably a decent bet. At my LBS these are on sale for $2,199 at the moment. My guess is you can talk them down from there by a couple of hundred bucks.

My problem with the high end of the FX series is that the componentry is not consistent with the price point. A 105 series on that bike seems low-rent. And the wheelset is low-rent too. Having wheels with a $250 MSRP on a bike with a $3,000 MSRP doesn't seem right.

I bought a 7.5 FX about a month ago. Like you I became addictied to the light weight and nimble "jumpiness" / acceleration of the bike. The LBS has a 30 day exchange policy and I thought hard about swapping it for a 7.7 FX, which is essentially a 7.9 FX without the carbon frame, and would have been a $700 upgrade. In the end I decided to spend a bit over $500 on new components and end up with a bike that is in every component is at parity or better than the 7.7 FX (other than no "isozone monostay" on the frame). Full Ultegra SL and 6700. Same shifters and FD as the 7.9. Easton 90 XC flat bar (99g, check out the spec on the Bontrager bar that is stock on the 7.9...). I have yet to change the wheelset but whatever I get will be a heck of a lot better than the Bontrager Race that is stock on the 7.7 and 7.9.

Obviously the 7.9 FX is a carbon frame and is therefore a different animal. But from a component standpoint you could invest $750 in your 7.2 and end up with a bike that is superior to a 7.7 FX. Plus it is less likely to get stolen.

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It's not the bike, it's the rider.
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If you want a flat bar road bike with a carbon frame it's probably a decent bet. At my LBS these are on sale for $2,199 at the moment. My guess is you can talk them down from there by a couple of hundred bucks.

My problem with the high end of the FX series is that the componentry is not consistent with the price point. A 105 series on that bike seems low-rent. And the wheelset is low-rent too. Having wheels with a $250 MSRP on a bike with a $3,000 MSRP doesn't seem right.

I bought a 7.5 FX about a month ago. Like you I became addictied to the light weight and nimble "jumpiness" / acceleration of the bike. The LBS has a 30 day exchange policy and I thought hard about swapping it for a 7.7 FX, which is essentially a 7.9 FX without the carbon frame, and would have been a $700 upgrade. In the end I decided to spend a bit over $500 on new components and end up with a bike that is in every component is at parity or better than the 7.7 FX (other than no "isozone monostay" on the frame). Full Ultegra SL and 6700. Same shifters and FD as the 7.9. Easton 90 XC flat bar (99g, check out the spec on the Bontrager bar that is stock on the 7.9...). I have yet to change the wheelset but whatever I get will be a heck of a lot better than the Bontrager Race that is stock on the 7.7 and 7.9.

Obviously the 7.9 FX is a carbon frame and is therefore a different animal. But from a component standpoint you could invest $750 in your 7.2 and end up with a bike that is superior to a 7.7 FX. Plus it is less likely to get stolen.

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Thank you guys for all of your feedback. I am seriously considering getting a lower spec'd FX model like the 7.6 and just upgrading the components...

I took a closer look at the specs and it appears that most of the parts on the bike, I can buy for wayy cheaper. I initially thought that the price is justified by the carbon frame but like you (and a few other people) said, the other components are not "high end" so why even bother?

In the meantime, I'm going to shop around for other components.

matt - which websites are good to look for "hybrid" components - like for the fx models?

Thanks again everyone.

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A lot of better bikes out there for the $ that the 7.9 costs. I'm a Trek fan, but that pricing just isn't worth it IMHO. It's the same problem I have with the Portland.
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sk00k, I just sent you a PM with some info.
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