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Rear rack on a frame with no drop-out eyelets?

Old 08-10-09, 01:17 PM
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Rear rack on a frame with no drop-out eyelets?

Is it possible to mount rack a rear rack on to a frame with no drop-out eyelets at the bottom and no braze-on attachments at the top? I know there are many options for the upper braze-on replacements (p-clamps, tubus, seat post mounts...), but how well would any of these options work on the bottom where all the weight goes?

Likelye candidates: Surly Nice Rack (rear) onto a Kona Unit 2-9 (the 2009 models have no drop-out eyelets). Using an alfine hub too so the QR mount style is out. Disc brakes complicate the matter a bit too.

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Originally Posted by tswg View Post
Is it possible to mount rack a rear rack on to a frame with no drop-out eyelets at the bottom and no braze-on attachments at the top? I know there are many options for the upper braze-on replacements (p-clamps, tubus, seat post mounts...), but how well would any of these options work on the bottom where all the weight goes?

Likelye candidates: Surly Nice Rack (rear) onto a Kona Unit 2-9 (the 2009 models have no drop-out eyelets). Using an alfine hub too so the QR mount style is out. Disc brakes complicate the matter a bit too.

Thoughts?
I use p-clamps on the top and bottom and I carry a trunk bag and one pannier on the right side. No problems so far.
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Old 08-10-09, 07:27 PM
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I've considered the same approach and i'm convinced if push came to shove that I would be able to make it work.
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Old 08-10-09, 07:33 PM
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p-clamps are the way to go
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Sorry, but does this really need to be asked? Didn't anybody take shop class in school? Any kid could figure this stuff out on his own. Get some tools and get to work.
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Originally Posted by bkrownd View Post
Sorry, but does this really need to be asked? Didn't anybody take shop class in school? Any kid could figure this stuff out on his own. Get some tools and get to work.
Yes it does, no I didn't, and I'd rather not "figure this stuff out" on something that took me over 2 months to pay off in cash on a $160/week paycheck. Isn't even my thread, but I learn plenty just reading theads like this.
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Old 08-12-09, 10:46 AM
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I really don't understand why you say that the "quick release mount style is out". Racks that use that, like the Axiom Streamliner Road rack:


Go through the rear wheel skewer - whether it's quick release or not is irrelevant. If your wheel has a rear wheel skewer (which the Alfine does, as does every bicycle wheel I've ever seen that's been produced in the last 50 years) I can't see why this style of rack wouldn't work.
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That rack might work, but the alfine hub has no-turn washers that make these options less desirable as it becomes difficult to tighten down the hub effectively.

bkrownd - the point of these threads is to figure out if someone knows of better options out there then just 'shop-class' solutions.
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Originally Posted by tswg View Post
That rack might work, but the alfine hub has no-turn washers that make these options less desirable as it becomes difficult to tighten down the hub effectively.

bkrownd - the point of these threads is to figure out if someone knows of better options out there then just 'shop-class' solutions.
I apologize if I'm being obtuse, but could you just put the rack part in on the outside of the washers, between the bolt and the washers, not between the washer and the frame? Or do no-turn washers need contact with both the bolt and the frame?

I think this is your bike?
http://www.cyclerscafe.com/Portals/7...K7_UNIT-29.jpg
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