40 Miles In Heels!
08-13-09, 04:32 PM
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08-13-09, 05:45 PM
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Maybe I should start wearing heels.
One always has to keep the first rule of racing at the forefront and that is, people have to know it was a race.
Call me very skeptical.
One always has to keep the first rule of racing at the forefront and that is, people have to know it was a race.
Call me very skeptical.
08-13-09, 05:52 PM
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the cover is the FIRST thing I judge a book by... That painting of the lady on a bike in your blog, well... I'll be in my bunk.
08-13-09, 08:58 PM
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Actually I would be more interested in what is above the OP's knees.
08-14-09, 07:57 AM
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wow, pretty cool! I have only gone a max 35 miles and that was a while ago, I have to be more consistent with the bike...
I have some questions...
you really dropped guys that were on carbon fibre bikes?
how long did it take you?
how many miles do you do in a week?
height/weight/age?
were you a "gifted" rider or did you have to work for it? and what did you do to become better?
hopefully, you don't take these negatively, I am inspired by you and want to see if I can use your info to get better...
thx!
I have some questions...
you really dropped guys that were on carbon fibre bikes?
how long did it take you?
how many miles do you do in a week?
height/weight/age?
were you a "gifted" rider or did you have to work for it? and what did you do to become better?
hopefully, you don't take these negatively, I am inspired by you and want to see if I can use your info to get better...
thx!
08-14-09, 08:31 AM
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Several aspects or the scenario bother me.
First of all, I'm in total agreement with KitN that people don't need to wear spandex for a 40-mile ride. If they want to, that's fine with me. If they don't want to, that's fine too. If they want to look their best, spandex is in my opinion not the way to go. But, as they say: Whatever!
Regardless of how people dress, there is no reason for anyone to be in any way hostile on a 40 mile "tour." It should be a social ride, a friendly scene where people hang out together while riding for a few hours. Hostile looks and hostile comments are totally not appropriate; likewise any look or comment that can be construed as hostile.
Given that KitN's attire was met with condescension and mild hostility, I don't blame her at all for dropping them. Dropping them was the appropriate response to inappropriate behavior.
On the other hand, I kinda wonder about her choice of riding attire, especially the high heels. I have no doubt she was comfortable and looked great, but maybe that's not the point. There's a saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do. A propos this thread, if you're going on a 40 mile bike ride with a bunch of weekend warriors, then weekend warrior attire is appropriate. If everyone else turned out in lycra, and KitN was the only one dressed 'business casual' (or whatever) then lycra was the appropriate dress. I rode a double metric century a few months ago with a cycling club (of which I am not a member), and I intentionally dressed the way I assumed everyone else would be dressed: some kind of bright colored jersey and cycling shorts, which I don't like at all. I thought: it's their party, and they're allowing me to party with them, I will dress the way they do. It's not that I wanted to be one of them, or to be like them, but nor did I want to seem aloof. It seems to me KitN was challenging them by dressing differently, and this was antagonistic in its own way.
My question for you, KitN, is: why? If you want to be friends with these people, why challenge them? If you don't want to be friends with them, why ride with them?
First of all, I'm in total agreement with KitN that people don't need to wear spandex for a 40-mile ride. If they want to, that's fine with me. If they don't want to, that's fine too. If they want to look their best, spandex is in my opinion not the way to go. But, as they say: Whatever!
Regardless of how people dress, there is no reason for anyone to be in any way hostile on a 40 mile "tour." It should be a social ride, a friendly scene where people hang out together while riding for a few hours. Hostile looks and hostile comments are totally not appropriate; likewise any look or comment that can be construed as hostile.
Given that KitN's attire was met with condescension and mild hostility, I don't blame her at all for dropping them. Dropping them was the appropriate response to inappropriate behavior.
On the other hand, I kinda wonder about her choice of riding attire, especially the high heels. I have no doubt she was comfortable and looked great, but maybe that's not the point. There's a saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do. A propos this thread, if you're going on a 40 mile bike ride with a bunch of weekend warriors, then weekend warrior attire is appropriate. If everyone else turned out in lycra, and KitN was the only one dressed 'business casual' (or whatever) then lycra was the appropriate dress. I rode a double metric century a few months ago with a cycling club (of which I am not a member), and I intentionally dressed the way I assumed everyone else would be dressed: some kind of bright colored jersey and cycling shorts, which I don't like at all. I thought: it's their party, and they're allowing me to party with them, I will dress the way they do. It's not that I wanted to be one of them, or to be like them, but nor did I want to seem aloof. It seems to me KitN was challenging them by dressing differently, and this was antagonistic in its own way.
My question for you, KitN, is: why? If you want to be friends with these people, why challenge them? If you don't want to be friends with them, why ride with them?
08-14-09, 08:38 AM
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08-14-09, 08:56 AM
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08-14-09, 08:58 AM
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Also to others who haven't checked, see pics there of the ride. Definitely looks more like a casual tour vs. a roadie type ride. A varied mix of bike types and attire for everyone. A great kind of ride, but not one where I'd expect any between rider judgment* about style nor one where dropping would be anything more than simply riding ahead and abandoning the ride.
*Really there was? - sure there were a couple of comments probably 'are you really gonna ride in high heels', but thinking one is judged by the looks one gets? How does one know what those looks mean? Also I get the impression from the blog that she was equally if not more judgmental about everyone else with those comments about what others looked like and were doing.
08-14-09, 09:37 AM
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Check the blog link on her first post.
Also to others who haven't checked, see pics there of the ride. Definitely looks more like a casual tour vs. a roadie type ride. A varied mix of bike types and attire for everyone. A great kind of ride, but not one where I'd expect any between rider judgment* about style nor one where dropping would be anything more than simply riding ahead and abandoning the ride.
*Really there was? - sure there were a couple of comments probably 'are you really gonna ride in high heels', but thinking one is judged by the looks one gets? How does one know what those looks mean? Also I get the impression from the blog that she was equally if not more judgmental about everyone else with those comments about what others looked like and were doing.
Also to others who haven't checked, see pics there of the ride. Definitely looks more like a casual tour vs. a roadie type ride. A varied mix of bike types and attire for everyone. A great kind of ride, but not one where I'd expect any between rider judgment* about style nor one where dropping would be anything more than simply riding ahead and abandoning the ride.
*Really there was? - sure there were a couple of comments probably 'are you really gonna ride in high heels', but thinking one is judged by the looks one gets? How does one know what those looks mean? Also I get the impression from the blog that she was equally if not more judgmental about everyone else with those comments about what others looked like and were doing.
I also think this was a group of mostly casual riders on a pleasure ride rather than a collection of roadies on training ride. Dropping people on that sort of ride doesn't mean a whole lot.
FWIW, I liked the skeleton jersey that guy was wearing pictured in her blog. Is it sexy? No. But I'm sure he was quite comfortable in it. I don't care if my riding attire is attractive to the opposite sex.
In fact, my wife dislikes about 70% of my wardrobe but she married me anyway. I guess I must look pretty hot 30% of the time.
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08-14-09, 09:58 AM
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Yeah, based on her blog, I'd say Kit'N would rather see cyclists have more concern for style than they typically show. IMO wearing heels had to do more with proving a point than anything else, though I do think heels are much better suited for riding than they are for walking.
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