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Old 08-31-09, 10:40 AM
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Moustache vs North Road

I currently have moustache bars on my AHH, but was wondering how they compare to North Road bars.
Anyone have experience with both?

I like the multiple hand positions and how you can get semi-aero, but none of the hand positions are all that comfortable for any length of time. Right now my stem is about even with my seat height or just a hair higher.
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Old 08-31-09, 11:05 AM
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I haven't owned a bike with mustache bars, but I have the larger north roads that sweep back more that provide multiple hand positions, and another bike with more typical/traditional north roads. So, I am not the best one to talk, but I notice you mention none of the positions on your bars are that comfortable. I'm sort of in the camp that thinks you need a lot fewer positions if you have one that is right. North roads type bars are right for many folks to finally get the right position, and thereby forego the need for bar-ends or whatever, but plenty of riders (especially in N. America) don't like the hand position such bars provide. On a bike where the the bars are a little lower than the seat, it is nice to have multiple positions for very long rides. If I have to ride my 1971 Raleigh Sports (which really has only one hand position) for more than 20 miles, it would get a little uncomfortable. I don't really use that bike for that though. My normal bike with the larger north roads provides the alternate more forward hand position which is useful for long rides or getting slightly more aero I guess.

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Old 08-31-09, 03:29 PM
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I have both, and prefer the North Roads - it's a heavier steel bar compared to the alloy mustache, but I just like the positions (and the look) a bit better
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I have never had moustache bars but I have northroads and drops. With northroads you are more upright which takes the weight off your arms and shoulders, so number of hand positions is less an issue. Also, northroads put your hands in a wrist friendly position.

The more upright position has its disadvantages, the biggest for me is the wind resistance. Still, its worth it for me in a commuter
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Old 08-31-09, 07:04 PM
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As a moustache advocate, I have to ask where you put your brake hoods, that you don't have any comfortable hand positions. I've been riding with my moustache bars for over a year, and I'm still discovering new places to put my hands.
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Old 08-31-09, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post
As a moustache advocate, I have to ask where you put your brake hoods, that you don't have any comfortable hand positions. I've been riding with my moustache bars for over a year, and I'm still discovering new places to put my hands.
I find the most comfortable position is way up in front at the brake levers. But I don't want to lean in that position all the time. Other positions closer to the seat are more upright but too much weight on my hands/wrists. I really like the hand positions I get out of them, especially urban riding, I just wish my hands could be comfortable in them.



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Have you tried this setup?

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Old 08-31-09, 08:17 PM
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No, i don't like the narrow center position. I like a wide grip.
To me the first pic is what's most comfortable, but not where I want to be all the time.
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Old 08-31-09, 09:27 PM
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seriously who the hell wants to ride a bike with their hands like the second drawing?
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Originally Posted by JJPistols View Post
seriously who the hell wants to ride a bike with their hands like the second drawing?
I do, on occasion. Think a nice long relatively straight decent, where you can just get into a tuck and fly down.

to the OP, try grabbing the hoods, wrapping a thumb underneath and having the bar rest between your middle and ring finger. Make sense? if it doesn't, I don't blame you, maybe I'll try for some photos.
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Any position where the bar is in between your fingers is going to have limited sustainability for most people.
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Help you out any? or at least give you new ideas. You really have a ton of flexability with moustache bars, and while a lot of the positions aren't great, I'm sure you can find one or two that work.
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post
I do, on occasion. Think a nice long relatively straight decent, where you can just get into a tuck and fly down.



you don't just grab the stem in one fist and whip your free hand in the air behind your head like a bronco bustin' cowboy on a fast descent?



I got the bars right here - I really don't find it comfortable, and can't imagine feeling in control of a bike with such a narrow and strange grip


don't let that stop you, though
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Old 09-01-09, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JJPistols View Post
you don't just grab the stem in one fist and whip your free hand in the air behind your head like a bronco bustin' cowboy on a fast descent?
I have done that on one particularly exuberant night, but that mainly because my nitto stem is almost the exact length of my hand, and I just couldn't resist. I try and save it for special occasions though
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Old 09-01-09, 02:17 AM
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If the bars don't fit, bullhorn style bars might be a better fit for some people. I'm fond of Nitto Albatross bars. The perfect all around bar.
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If you flip North Road bars and use them like Moustache bars, then, to borrow drop bar terminology, the Northroad bars have substanially less reach. They also have less of an inward curve toward the stem to play around with brake mounting positions. I've never used them like that, but would consider it on a bike I wanted to convert to Moustache on the cheap--usually you have to get a shorter stem for Moustache bars to work, North Road bars might work fine with your existing stem. The straight part of the handles will be a bit long in this application and would beg for shortening to appropriate length.
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post
to the OP, try grabbing the hoods, wrapping a thumb underneath and having the bar rest between your middle and ring finger. Make sense? if it doesn't, I don't blame you, maybe I'll try for some photos.
Ya, i'll do that to on some long straights. But again, it's a little awkward feeling and not somewhere I want to spend much time.
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Ya, i'll do that to on some long straights. But again, it's a little awkward feeling and not somewhere I want to spend much time.
come to think of it, I don't really spend too much time in any one position, that's kinda what I like about them. When I'm motoring along,I have a whole variety of hood positions to choose from, I can swing my hand out for hard braking, use the end for slower riding (or to catch the wind), get my hands near the centre for a bit of aero, and of course grab the stem and wave my giant cowboy hat in the air.
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The brake hoods on mine are a little further into the curve. Perhaps thats the secret.
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Ok, i guess I'm not being clear. LOL!

I like the brake hood position. But it's the most aggressive position on these bars and I don't want to spend time there when I'm just cruising along enjoying the ride. I like that position for when i need to haul a$$.

With my hands closer to the bar ends i get numb hands sometimes and it's just not comfortable. I keep moving my hands around.

So I decided to try the north road (actually Riv's Albatross bars) and I'll let you know how it goes. These should get my hands up higher and closer to me, setting me more upright with less weight on my hands. Should have them by the end of the week.
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I have two road bikes with moustache bars and one with albatross bars (similar shape to north road bars). I looked at the photo of the OP's Riv AHH bike with moustache bars and compared it to my Riv Atlantis with moustache bars. I use a Nitto dirt drop short reach stem, and the bars on my Riv Atlantis are probably 1.5" higher than on the OP's Riv AHH. That means I ride more vertical and less weight on my hands. That also explains why I use a Brooks B68 wide leather touring saddle instead of a B17, because there is more weight on my saddle. I've used these bars for the last 7 years or so and don't plan to change them. Fantastic for my main commuter bike.

I have a Surly cross check with Velo Orange 120mm stem and albatross bars. That long stem puts the front of the bars pretty far out there, but when on the side grips it's quite comfy. The bar height of the albatross bars is also higher than the seat. I have cork grips with bar tape wrapped out to the front part of the bars so I can get a downhill aero grip once in awhile. It's not a radically different feel for me to the moustache bars. The difference is the brakes are on the side grips rather than out front. For cruising around town and casual riding, that's no big deal.
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I have done imperial & metric centuries on Soma & Nitto mustache bars. Without gloves fingers go numb, with gloves everything's fine. I like the bars a tiny bit above the saddle.
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Well they got here quicker than i expected!
Zip tied them to the bike to get them home. lol
Ended up with the Riv Albatross bars.

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