Are the rivets on a Brooks B-17 meant to hurt my bum?
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Are the rivets on a Brooks B-17 meant to hurt my bum?
I think maybe I'm sitting on my Brooks all wrong, because the rivets on the back are digging into my bum. Is that normal? And if so, is there a point at which that stops to be a problem?
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You're too far back on your saddle. If you're sitting on the rivets, then you're also perched on the rear rail, which can't be comfortable. Move the saddle back so you're actually on the suspended portion of the leather.
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It's not unusual for the edges of rivets to protrude above the leather on Brooks saddles, particularly the large "penny" rivets. Just grab a hammer and tap the edges down flush to the leather.
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In my experience with my B17, this can be easier said than done with many frames and seatposts. My Bridgestone with its 72 degree seat tube is the only bike I've owned that gets a B17 back far enough. The OP may need a new seatpost with greater setback.
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Having ridden a Brooks for the past couple of years and a few thousand miles I second the notion that you are too far back. Diagnosis is the easy part. It took me a couple of weeks of fiddling with the saddle fore and aft position as well as angle to get a comfortable ride. If you can't go back any further on your current seatpost than you may need a new seatpost that will allow more setback. It can take a while to get a Brooks adjusted correctly.
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When looking at your bike from the side, your sit bones should be pretty much inline with the two rivets bookending that back row. In other words, the first and the last rivet. Somewhere around there. If not then move your saddle back.
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I understand that it could be something to do with the position of the saddle so that should definitely be explored. However, I had a different problem with my Brooks.
It had to do with one of rivets at the back to the side not being flush with the leather. I had a leather store peen the rivet so it was flush with the leather, took them a few minutes at minimial cost. My problem was not with a rivet directly at the back but towards the back and the side, guess it would be about the 5 o'clock position with the front being 12 o'clock. If this is where your problem rivet is, I posted on it here and got some good replies, search for it, I'm sure you'll find it.
It had to do with one of rivets at the back to the side not being flush with the leather. I had a leather store peen the rivet so it was flush with the leather, took them a few minutes at minimial cost. My problem was not with a rivet directly at the back but towards the back and the side, guess it would be about the 5 o'clock position with the front being 12 o'clock. If this is where your problem rivet is, I posted on it here and got some good replies, search for it, I'm sure you'll find it.
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This is why I ditched the b17 and got a swift. I couldn't move the b17 back far enough for my tastes because of the short rails so my butt would end up on the frame/rivets. The swift is more expensive, but has longer rails, so i'm able to push it back far enough, I love it so much more.. plus added bonus, it looks cooler to me.
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This is why I ditched the b17 and got a swift. I couldn't move the b17 back far enough for my tastes because of the short rails so my butt would end up on the frame/rivets. The swift is more expensive, but has longer rails, so i'm able to push it back far enough, I love it so much more.. plus added bonus, it looks cooler to me.
I doubt the OP is on the rivets. You're sitting on the metal cage in the back. Which is too far back. The odds of your sit bones hitting dead on those rivets seems unlikely, plus you'd feel like your falling over the back edge of the saddle.
We need to see a picture. You could have the saddle too far forward. The nose angled far too high. Or you could just be forcing yourself to sit back there because you secretly hate your butt.
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I'm not sitting on the rivets, per se. I made sure of that before posting. In fact, the rivets giving me problems are the ones up front. In other words, my sit bones aren't getting the rivets, the tops of my thighs are when they are on the downward thrust.