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View Poll Results: 2009: Lights & Reflectors: How much is enough?
No Reflectors
18
9.84%
Rear reflectors/reflective tape
64
34.97%
Front reflectors/reflective tape
46
25.14%
360 degrees of reflectors/reflective tape
60
32.79%
No lights
1
0.55%
Single rear light
80
43.72%
Single front light
97
53.01%
Multiple rear lights
94
51.37%
Multiple front lights
76
41.53%
I do not ride at night
5
2.73%
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2009: Lights & Reflectors: How much is enough?

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Old 09-16-09, 02:52 PM
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Three rear lights -- two on the bike and one on the helmet
Two front lights -- one on the bike and one on the helmet
Down low glow double tube
Firefly lights on the tube stems
Reflectors on the trunk bag
Reflectors on the pedals
Wrist reflectors
Reflectors on the shoes
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Originally Posted by crocodilefundy
I've been more and more impressed with reflective material on the rare occasions i'm in a car. I can see pedal reflectors way before i can see a blinking light.
Reflective material is more effective than almost any light, assuming that it's in a position to work. 95% of the time, it is. A good reflective vest sends far more light into the driver's eyes than anything but a Dinotte pointed right at his head.

Active lighting is good for situations where the reflectors don't work. Check out how many morons are driving around with the right light burned out and the left one pointing at the trees or straight into the ground. Those guys aren't going to see reflectors.

The scary part about that is, I've found that most people driving with one light *don't realize it*. I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of people do not ever check their car's safety, even by turning the lights on and taking 10 seconds to walk around it once a month, let alone as often as they should (at least once a week).
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Riding in the dark lately, and observing other riders' visibility (or lack thereof), I am thinking I'll probably upgrade from my current one-front-one-back-reflectors setup. Not sure just how though. I have a clip-on rear fender that kinda interferes with anything seatpost-mounted, so my light is on my bag (which also has reflective tape) -- and I don't wear my bag all up high on my shoulder and angled at the sky, so I think it is fairly visible, but still...

Not sure if I really need to upgrade the front, it's a cateye blinkie. I think I'll consider some options. I left work not that late last night (maybe 6:30 pm or so) and it was time for lights already, we've got a lot of crap coming up that's going to mean not many days of leaving at 5, the days are getting shorter rapidly anyway...I have to assume I'll be riding home in the dark. So, yeah, good time to think about it.
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Don't like the poll, don't see how you will get meaning full data.

Same as previously reported:

Passive
Side
-- reflective tires
-- reflective strips on white helmet
-- stealth reflective tape on rims
-- reflective tape on frame

front
-- glove diamonds
{had to take off reflector for clearing issues}

rear
-- no reflector
-- reflectorized trunk bag

All
-- reflective jacket


Active
side
-- fork safety lights
-- handlebar lights, {not too effective, low lifespan, stopped using}
Front
-- Bright headlight {L&M}
rear
-- cateye ld1000
emergency
-- couple flashlights and bungie cords


I think I am covered and don't plan to add any more.
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Front
MS P7 -Bars
Dinote 400L - Helmet

Rear
4 PBSF (3 on bike, seatpost, 1 on each chainstay) + one on helmet

Side
Reflective tape on wheels/frame

Rain means you need way more light IMHO, so I think my front light setup is great in the dry, and adequate in the rain.
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Old 09-18-09, 01:29 AM
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helmet:
L&M ARC HID

commuter:
full reflectors (wheels- pedals- front- rear)
superflash stealth
blaze w/superflash

brakeless deathmachine:
knog frog front/rear
reflective decals (seatpost, headtube, hubs)

considering my commuter is pearl white and my deathmachine is pitch gloss black, that helmet light is pretty important when i don't ride the commuter on beautiful days like today.
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Me;

Two Planetbike Superflash tailights
Rear reflective panel on my seat bag

Two headlamp systems with a total 3 lights and lenses
- Lights & Motion Solo Logic & Cygo-lite Night Rover
I usually use just one of the two systems at a time and switch on the standby system as the batteries deplete.

Reflective tape is installed on the crank arms.

I also have reflective tape on my rain-pants, cold weather boot covers and helmet.


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Front:
Two Knog Skink blinkers
Two Fenix L2D on Steady

Back:
Two Cateye TL-610s, one on steady, one blinking

Helmet:
Front, Fenix P2D on steady
Rear, Two Sigma Micro Reds and one Knog Gekko, all blinking.
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I think reflectors and reflective materials are so very important. An ANSI-rated vest or jersey helps give the oncoming driver more perspective that there is a person up ahead. Quite often I see what appears to be a disembodied light looming somewhere out in front on me on the road. Of course, it's the light from the bicycle but that's all I see.

In my opinion, reflectors give an added dimension to the bicycle and the cyclist. If I were approaching that same cyclist who was also wearing a reflective vest/jersey, rear reflectors, reflective tape on helmet, etc., I could see more form and definition from afar.

Car headlights are very powerful and the right reflective materials are like adding multiple lights to your bike. That's why I scratch my head when bicycle shops take off reflectors on new bikes because they are somehow considered a nuisance. I can see very well on city streets in the dark and use blinkies for the front and back. But it's my vest, I think, that make motorists take heed. I've noticed the difference when they go around me.
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On my Bikes I have the following setup:

Jamis Exile
Front
2 Fenix O-lights on handlebars (max 200 lumens each)
Rear
PB Super Flash on saddle bag (flash)
Ultrafire 501b on left chainstay (steady)

Surly LHT
Front
2 MTE P7's on handlebars (max 900 lumens each)
Rear
NiteRider CherryBomb on saddle bag (flash)
PB Rack Blinky 5 on rear rack (steady or off)
Blackburn Mars 3.0 on left strut of rack (steady or off)

I also have reflectors on the wheels for each bike and also a rear reflector on Exile (rack blinky can serve as reflector when off on LHT)
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One front light and one rear light: this is what I personally consider necessary and sufficient for night riding. However, I usually have more stuff than that: reflective tape on some bikes, reflective strips on bags and clothes, secondary blinkies etc. But I would not hesitate to ride without all of that extra stuff, as long as I have the lights.
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Old 09-19-09, 09:17 AM
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I have red flashers on the back and sides of my rear rack, a small white flashing LED on my bars and a NiteRider 110 lumen USB Plus on my helmet. I agree about having a backup for the main headlight and I'm looking at the CygoLite MityCross 350 LED. It seems to have great illumination, features, reviews and battery life for the price (under $180 on sale at Performance Bike).

Has anyone used it and can comment?
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Old 09-19-09, 11:39 AM
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In the City of Boston
Front: UltraFire 606A Flashlight
Rear: Planet Bike Superflash
Blackburn Mars 3.0
Patterned Reflective Tape (8 sq inches total)
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360 for sure. I've got two lights up front: one on bars, one very bright one on helmet.
Three lights on rear; one on helmet, one on seat post and one on rack - usually at least one is steady.
This is combined with various reflective items both all over my bike and on me plus red reflective tape on fenders. In fact, I'm going to get more reflective this winter, adding something like this: https://www.colebrothers.com/biketape/
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bump, the nights are getting longer.
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It's the driver who doesn't notice/see you who will kill you... Don't play around. Decent lights front and rear are a must. I need lights that will help me see as well as be seen. DiNotte's front and rear.

If you cannot afford that combo, at least run a an old tech 10w halogen up front and a Planet Bike SuperFlash in the rear...

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