Convincing People that I Chose to Bike to Work
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Wow, "bicycle lifestyle", feeling heroic after a ride, etc? Really?
I just thought it was a sensible way to get to work. Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense.
Nobody's ever offered me a ride, but if someone did, I'd say "No thanks. By the way, I've got a spare bike at home that you can use if YOU need a ride."
I just thought it was a sensible way to get to work. Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense.
Nobody's ever offered me a ride, but if someone did, I'd say "No thanks. By the way, I've got a spare bike at home that you can use if YOU need a ride."
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[QUOTE=ItsJustMe;9741029]Wow, "bicycle lifestyle", feeling heroic after a ride, etc? Really?
snip... Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense.
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Love that quote, as it sums up my attitude these days. It's a waste. It should be reserved for the occasions when you need it.
snip... Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense.
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Love that quote, as it sums up my attitude these days. It's a waste. It should be reserved for the occasions when you need it.
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If bicycling to work is sensible, why don't more people do it? I think the major point of this thread is that to the Common Man, cycling to work is nonsensical, or at best whimsical. I feel victorious after making my was through the herds of 3000 pound steel behemoths, but that's just me.
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I think it's definitely part laziness, but the other part is just that driving a car is a social norm. There is a whole social system based on what you drive, how expensive it is, etc. Cars became an American symbol of success and freedom, and then social status. So even when you look at cagers and wonder why they are putting up with traffing for 30 minutes rather than riding their bike for 35 minutes...just realize it's built in to our society.
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I think it's definitely part laziness, but the other part is just that driving a car is a social norm. There is a whole social system based on what you drive, how expensive it is, etc. Cars became an American symbol of success and freedom, and then social status. So even when you look at cagers and wonder why they are putting up with traffing for 30 minutes rather than riding their bike for 35 minutes...just realize it's built in to our society.
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If I had to give a serious answer for why I commute by bike, it's because traffic is horrible where I work. On the worst days, it can take 30 minutes to go a mile by car in the city. Outside the city, the driving is better, but in the end, it usually takes me the same amount of time to get home whether I drive or bike. I like to bike, I like exercising, I like being outdoors, and I hate being stuck in traffic, so that in a nutshell is why I do it.
I recently moved and I now have the option of taking the train (which allows bikes on board), but since I've been biking to work for so long, it's a hard habit to break. What was originally intended to avoid daily traffic jams has turned into a daily passion. I still ride even though I could go to/from work much faster by train.
I recently moved and I now have the option of taking the train (which allows bikes on board), but since I've been biking to work for so long, it's a hard habit to break. What was originally intended to avoid daily traffic jams has turned into a daily passion. I still ride even though I could go to/from work much faster by train.
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I've never heard the DUI comment, but it never fails to amuse me when somebody who has known for years that I ride bikes all the time will offer a ride when they see me. Another funny thing is when somebody sees me at the bank or a store, will ask "How did you get here? I just passed you a few minutes ago!" Honestly, do they think we're standing still or riding backwards?
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With the media inundated with auto commercials, like one of the new Audi diesel versions that imply that cyclists and other alternative transportation users would enjoy themselves better if they drove one of their new diesel vehicles, I'd have to answer both, that they're brainwashed into being very lazy.
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Look, I love my bike. I love riding it. However, it's not for everything. I take my alzheimered grandmother to lunch most weekends, and I'm not just going to pop her in a trailer for it. Also, I'm not going to rent a car every time I need to ferry a visitor to or from the airport. I'm not going to worry about my bike when I show up for a date (and not be able to pick her up, or not be able to take her somewhere else later in the night). Sometimes I'm feeling a little sick and don't want to stress my body further. Sometimes it's cold, and my circulation is bad enough that I've never found a pair of gloves that keep my hands warm in serious cold. Sometimes I just want a nice quiet ride with some music instead of an unending whoosh of wind and tire howl.
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They certainly can be self-expression. They're not all black Model Ts these days.
Look, I love my bike. I love riding it. However, it's not for everything. I take my alzheimered grandmother to lunch most weekends, and I'm not just going to pop her in a trailer for it. Also, I'm not going to rent a car every time I need to ferry a visitor to or from the airport. I'm not going to worry about my bike when I show up for a date (and not be able to pick her up, or not be able to take her somewhere else later in the night). Sometimes I'm feeling a little sick and don't want to stress my body further. Sometimes it's cold, and my circulation is bad enough that I've never found a pair of gloves that keep my hands warm in serious cold. Sometimes I just want a nice quiet ride with some music instead of an unending whoosh of wind and tire howl.
Look, I love my bike. I love riding it. However, it's not for everything. I take my alzheimered grandmother to lunch most weekends, and I'm not just going to pop her in a trailer for it. Also, I'm not going to rent a car every time I need to ferry a visitor to or from the airport. I'm not going to worry about my bike when I show up for a date (and not be able to pick her up, or not be able to take her somewhere else later in the night). Sometimes I'm feeling a little sick and don't want to stress my body further. Sometimes it's cold, and my circulation is bad enough that I've never found a pair of gloves that keep my hands warm in serious cold. Sometimes I just want a nice quiet ride with some music instead of an unending whoosh of wind and tire howl.
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I've had many offers for rides over the years. I even had the custodian at my school once try to advise me on how to get a loan for a car. (That was when I was totally and intentionally car-free.)
Over time, people have learned that I'm just "quirky" and like to pedal. I noticed that a few at my last work site started pedaling, after I'd modeled for about...3 years! The cool part is that I go back to that site sometimes, and I still see their bicycles parked at the racks during working hours. So something was accomplished there.
Two miles is really short. Your co-workers should be embarassed to even think that is car-worthy.
Over time, people have learned that I'm just "quirky" and like to pedal. I noticed that a few at my last work site started pedaling, after I'd modeled for about...3 years! The cool part is that I go back to that site sometimes, and I still see their bicycles parked at the racks during working hours. So something was accomplished there.
Two miles is really short. Your co-workers should be embarassed to even think that is car-worthy.
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I wonder if she considered on how I was able to attain that level of credit, and I'm sure that not having a car loan in the first place ever crossed her mind.
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I think it's definitely part laziness, but the other part is just that driving a car is a social norm. There is a whole social system based on what you drive, how expensive it is, etc. Cars became an American symbol of success and freedom, and then social status. So even when you look at cagers and wonder why they are putting up with traffing for 30 minutes rather than riding their bike for 35 minutes...just realize it's built in to our society.
I opened up a checking statement that I received in the mail to discover, to my amazement, a hand written note from one of the tellers at my banking facility stating that I was more than qualified for a considerable car loan, and that she would be more than happy to set one up, preapproved.
I wonder if she considered on how I was able to attain that level of credit, and I'm sure that not having a car loan in the first place ever crossed her mind.
I wonder if she considered on how I was able to attain that level of credit, and I'm sure that not having a car loan in the first place ever crossed her mind.
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i opened up a checking statement that i received in the mail to discover, to my amazement, a hand written note from one of the tellers at my banking facility stating that i was more than qualified for a considerable car loan, and that she would be more than happy to set one up, preapproved.
I wonder if she considered on how i was able to attain that level of credit, and i'm sure that not having a car loan in the first place ever crossed her mind.
I wonder if she considered on how i was able to attain that level of credit, and i'm sure that not having a car loan in the first place ever crossed her mind.
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Ya know, I think most people don't commute by bike because they don't consider it to be viable.
Add in a bit of laziness (because it's scary and hard to try something new that no one else has shown you how to do), and you have a nation dedicated to the car.
I would bet that 99% of America's population would classify bicyles as toys, not tools.
I haven't commuted (by bicycle, anyway) for years thanks to the time commitment. I work 10 hour shifts a half hour drive away, vs. an hour and a half ride away from home. With little kids at home, I just don't have 13 hours a day to spend away. Not that I wouldn't love to commute.
In response to the OP, I usually tell them I just like to ride my bike. This is especially amusing when it's been snowing for a week. I then ask them to explain how it's any different than skiing? You enjoy being out in the snow while skiing, right? Why can't I enjoy being out in the snow biking? And why would you care how I get to work anyway? You're not riding it....
I could go on and on...
Add in a bit of laziness (because it's scary and hard to try something new that no one else has shown you how to do), and you have a nation dedicated to the car.
I would bet that 99% of America's population would classify bicyles as toys, not tools.
I haven't commuted (by bicycle, anyway) for years thanks to the time commitment. I work 10 hour shifts a half hour drive away, vs. an hour and a half ride away from home. With little kids at home, I just don't have 13 hours a day to spend away. Not that I wouldn't love to commute.
In response to the OP, I usually tell them I just like to ride my bike. This is especially amusing when it's been snowing for a week. I then ask them to explain how it's any different than skiing? You enjoy being out in the snow while skiing, right? Why can't I enjoy being out in the snow biking? And why would you care how I get to work anyway? You're not riding it....
I could go on and on...
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ItsJustMe this is an excellent comeback
"Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense."
"Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense."
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I suppose the brainwashed, or very lazy as decribed by ItsJustMe in an above post (#79) might reply,"Of course it makes more sense than getting out of the car and pushing it."
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[QUOTE=ItsJustMe;9741029] Paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel around with me doesn't really make that much sense.
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My kid asked to use the car this weekend, to run up to the store to get a couple of grocery items from the store a half mile up the road. I used your line on him--I'm not paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel up the road for one stinking mile! Of course, he had no choice anyway, but it got him thinking. I gave him my pannier and off he went. Then he had to go back out again, since he forgot an item. No complaints, however. I think he might have enjoyed it! (17 yr. olds who don't compain about something usually like it--that's my take.)
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My kid asked to use the car this weekend, to run up to the store to get a couple of grocery items from the store a half mile up the road. I used your line on him--I'm not paying for gas to haul 3000 pounds of steel up the road for one stinking mile! Of course, he had no choice anyway, but it got him thinking. I gave him my pannier and off he went. Then he had to go back out again, since he forgot an item. No complaints, however. I think he might have enjoyed it! (17 yr. olds who don't compain about something usually like it--that's my take.)