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Old 10-21-09, 10:59 PM
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2010 Salsa La Cruz

Has Salsa put out their 2010 catalog?

The La Cruz on their site appears the same as 2009 which is the same as 2008. Have they not changed the colors since 2008?
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Old 10-22-09, 12:24 AM
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There is no La Cruz for 2010. The only thing left are the 2009 leftovers. There is supposedly some form of replacement coming later in 2010.

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Old 10-22-09, 05:37 AM
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No kidding? So where are these great prices on remaining La Cruz stock alluded to in the post alluded to by JeffS?

The La Cruz has been my "drool" bike for a while now, wouldn't mind finding a deal.
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I wish they would make a version of the La Cruz with canti brakes rather than discs. I also wish they would put eyelets for racks and fenders. It would make a great commuting bike with those changes.
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Old 10-22-09, 08:28 AM
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Funny, I'm hoping for rack and fender eyelets and keeping the disks.
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Funny, I'm hoping for rack and fender eyelets and keeping the disks.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
I wish they would make a version of the La Cruz with canti brakes rather than discs. I also wish they would put eyelets for racks and fenders. It would make a great commuting bike with those changes.
Well this is a concern. This bike was suggested as a commuter in my thread. I need a rack and fenders....
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Funny, I'm hoping for rack and fender eyelets and keeping the disks.
+100...Add spare spoke holders and fender mount (no more ties around the BB/chainstay brace/seat tube) on the chainstays, eyelets on the fork, and the La Cruz would be near perfect for commuting and touring in any condition (weather or road/trail).
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Webcyclery in Bend Oregon has the La Cruz for 29% off ($1,249). I got mine there a few weeks back. it is a fun bike.

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Originally Posted by Sci-Fi View Post
+100...Add spare spoke holders and fender mount (no more ties around the BB/chainstay brace/seat tube) on the chainstays, eyelets on the fork, and the La Cruz would be near perfect for commuting and touring in any condition (weather or road/trail).
You're essentially describing the Salsa Fargo.
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You're essentially describing the Salsa Fargo.
Not really. Many want a more traditional frame rather than a compact design.
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Originally Posted by JFlurett View Post
Well this is a concern. This bike was suggested as a commuter in my thread. I need a rack and fenders....
I commute on my La Cruz with rack and fenders, and I love every second of it!
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
I wish they would make a version of the La Cruz with canti brakes rather than discs.
Why canti's instead of discs? I know that discs are better for bad weather (snow, rain, ice). However, after just buying a mountain bike with mechanical discs (BB5, quickly replaced by BB7) I admit that they are a pain to adjust. The tolerances are so tight. Right out of the box I had to slightly "true" my rotors, on both sets of new brakes. If I didn't do that they either rubbed or didn't stop at all. After that experience I'd be willing to forgo the benefits of disc brakes in cruddy weather and make do with linear pull or cantilever brakes.

Just curious what your reasoning is.
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Originally Posted by Sci-Fi View Post
Not really. Many want a more traditional frame rather than a compact design.
Yeah, good point. But aside from the non-traditional frame, its got all of the features on the wish list.
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Originally Posted by Quickbeam View Post
Yeah, good point. But aside from the non-traditional frame, its got all of the features on the wish list.
The Fargo could lose some weight (27.3lbs vs 23lbs for the La Cruz and that's w/o the racks, cages, and pump as pictured) and it's more of a 29'er than a touring bike. Doubt many will be bombing the trails with fully loaded f/r panniers.
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The fargo is meant specifically for light off road touring.

Compact geometry does not effect the actual geometry of the bike, just the standover height.

The La Cruz shoul

The La Cruz and El Mariachi are both likely being discontinued because of True Temper's bankruptcy, though apparently both will be replaced by something similar.
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Why canti's instead of discs? Just curious what your reasoning is.
Cantis are simpler technology. Less expensive, and less to go wrong. You don't need special wheels or racks if your frame has canti brakes, yet they have plenty of stopping power. I've got road bikes, and like the flexibility in being able to swap wheels. Can't do that if one bike has disk brakes.
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Originally Posted by scjparker View Post
I commute on my La Cruz with rack and fenders, and I love every second of it!
+1 i have full fenders and a rack on mine as well. and as for the discs, fine tuning the brakes doesn't take much time, and i never worry about wheel rim wear. as for so-called rim-brake modularity, its just a matter of what you own---if you have a lot of rim brake wheels, then it is easier to swap those out; if you own a lot of disc brake wheels, same thing (and yes, my rims are disc-brake only, with no built-up side wall for breaking surface). it's about 6 or half-dozen---except in inclement weather, then it's just all disc all the time.
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Originally Posted by Sci-Fi View Post
The Fargo could lose some weight (27.3lbs vs 23lbs for the La Cruz and that's w/o the racks, cages, and pump as pictured) and it's more of a 29'er than a touring bike. Doubt many will be bombing the trails with fully loaded f/r panniers.
27.3 pounds is still a reasonable weight for a reliable touring/commuting bike. The Fargo is set-up with rack braze-ons and multiple water bottle bosses specifically to function as a touring bike. And one that can handle light off-road use. I did a week long trans-state tour with a guy on a Fargo this past summer and he repeatedly commented on how great his bike was. People get too hung-up on labels (i.e. it's a "29er" or it's a "mountain bike"). The Fargo is a bike that can't really be labeled, but "bombing trails" is definitely not what the bike was designed for.
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The Fargo is a bike that can't really be labeled, but "bombing trails" is definitely not what the bike was designed for.
You have to admit that it also wasn't designed to spend it's life cruising the asphalt either though.
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You have to admit that it also wasn't designed to spend it's life cruising the asphalt either though.
Yeah, true. I guess that's sort of the point. It wasn't specifically designed to bomb trails or to cruise asphalt or to do any one thing in particular. I think they were going for a bike that could do pretty much anything. It's basically a sturdy, steel-framed, 700c bike with extra tire clearance, disk brakes, and braze-ons for just about anything you could possibly want to hang on it. You put on a set of 32mm touring tires and bags, and you can tour across a state on it. You put a set of 29" X 2" knobbies on it and you can hit the trail.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
Cantis are simpler technology. Less expensive, and less to go wrong. You don't need special wheels or racks if your frame has canti brakes, yet they have plenty of stopping power. I've got road bikes, and like the flexibility in being able to swap wheels. Can't do that if one bike has disk brakes.
I strongly disagree. Cantilevers are much harder to setup than mechanical disc brakes and are weaker and more prone to squealing. They also don't stop as well in wet conditions and if you hit a pot hole and bend your rim, you are still A-OK with disc brakes. (I once went trail riding on my Crosscheck and bent the rear rim so severely that I had to ride the rest of the ride without a rear brake at all). All that said, if you don't like discs - buy a Surly Crosscheck instead.

As far as wheel swapping goes, if all your bikes had discs, then the wheel swapping would be even easier because you wouldn't have to loosen the brake and you could run super fat tires on some of the wheels without having to deflate them to get them past the rim brakes during removal.

Now if I had any influence over Salsa, I would have them build a single speed version of the La Cruz, preferably in red.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
Cantis are simpler technology. Less expensive, and less to go wrong. You don't need special wheels or racks if your frame has canti brakes, yet they have plenty of stopping power. I've got road bikes, and like the flexibility in being able to swap wheels. Can't do that if one bike has disk brakes.
You can always lace a braking rim to a disc hub, which would give you the necessary flexibility. I got a set of wheels like that thinking that I might get a new disc-ready frame in the future, that way I can use them on anything.
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