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ambrisdelighted 10-27-09 03:19 PM

Lighting up your ride
 
I've been surfing Amazon looking for some new lights because I fell off my bike and my cheap-o Bell lights broke, but many of the items there are getting terrible reviews on battery life and realiability.

Is there a light brand that has good lighting AND good battery life...? Or will I just have choose one feature and leave the other?

Thanks in advance :D

cyccommute 10-27-09 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by ambrisdelighted (Post 9936163)
I've been surfing Amazon looking for some new lights because I fell off my bike and my cheap-o Bell lights broke, but many of the items there are getting terrible reviews on battery life and realiability.

Is there a light brand that has good lighting AND good battery life...? Or will I just have choose one feature and leave the other?

Thanks in advance :D

The one name...right now...is Magicshine!*

*Note to Geoman: Royalities may be sent to my Paypal account

ambrisdelighted 10-27-09 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 9936195)
The one name...right now...is Magicshine!*

*Note to Geoman: Royalities may be sent to my Paypal account

I don't see Magicshine on amazon... :(

sauerwald 10-27-09 03:37 PM

I have two sets of lights on my commuter bike.
Battery powered lights are Dinotte: http://www.dinottelighting.com/
http://www.dinottelighting.com/images/photographya.jpg
I operate both my headlight (200L Lithium 4 cell batterpack) and tail light (140L with 4 cell battery pack) in flashing mode, where I get over 20 hours of light on a charge.

I also have a generator powered headlight and tail light from Supernova which I got through Peter White: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com I have the Supernova E3 headlight and 161T taillight:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/imag...VA%20161-S.jpg
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/imag...rnova-e3_t.jpg

xtrajack 10-27-09 03:37 PM

Try the search function here on bikeforums. One of the threads has a link to a source for them.
Geomangear I believe is the name of the guy selling them. I forgot the the actual name of the thread.
I can however, vouch for the Magicshine light and dealing with Geomangear. Best $90 I have spent recently.

Griffin2020 10-27-09 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by xtrajack (Post 9936283)
Try the search function here on bikeforums. One of the threads has a link to a source for them.
Geomangear I believe is the name of the guy selling them. I forgot the the actual name of the thread.
I can however, vouch for the Magicshine light and dealing with Geomangear. Best $90 I have spent recently.

And I am here to offer the dissenting opinion.
I attempted to place an order with Geomangear over a week ago.
It failed twice (Paypal once, and his site...SQL issues). I got an email from him that night asking if I would share the reason why I did not complete the order. I was impressed at that time.
I responded that night, and noticed that the charge was pending on my card, so I asked if the order had actually gone through.
No response. The charge has completed, the Geomangear site still shows the item in my cart (as in I did not complete the order), and there is nothing pending shipment.
I have sent him another email and a couple of Twitter messages. I directly asked for a response with a time limit. I have not gotten a response.
His legendary customer service appears to me to be exactly that...a legend.
I am going to my bank tonight to file against the charges, since I cannot get a response from him.
The sad thing is that I wanted the light, but since he cannot be bothered to send a response saying, "Yes, the order will be processed," or "No, the charge was a mistake, and there is no shipment coming," I am forced to take action.

agarose2000 10-27-09 04:50 PM

The Magicshine is the current price/performance leader per the electronics forums and has been EXTENSIVELY reviewed (11 pages and counting of reviews...) I'd get that as your #1 option, hands down.

Close seconds in terms of functionality/price (but not nearly as bright) are P7 flashlights from Dealxtreme (use an 18650 battery), or the Fenix L2D or Terralux (cheapest solution) flashlights which run on 2xAA batteries and puts out 200 lumens which is more than enough for typical night riding.

Note that these "off-beat" choices of lights are not because we're so cool or knowledgable. If you wanted a similar powered bike-specific solution from a bike manufacturer like Blackburn, NiteRider, etc., you will pay over $100 for the same output of a $28 Terralux LED flashlight. Currently, there is NO light made by a major bike manufacturer than can even approach the lumen/dollar output of the Magicshine or LED flashlights. For <$50, all you will get from major bike manufacturers is a "be-seen" light, which is far too wimpy to use as a "to-see" light.

I run 2 Terraluxes for 400 lumens of light - one on the bars, one on the helmet, and this cost me < $65 total. If you went to your LBS for the same lumens from a bike manufacturer, you're talking $300+.

agarose2000 10-27-09 04:54 PM

As per battery life vs brightness - you don't get either for free.

Again, the Magicshine is the champ here, with 3hrs of super-high lighting. (This has been extensively tested and documented in the forums.) It has a special battery pack to make this possible.

If you use your light as a "be-seen" light, you can get days, weeks, even months of battery life, since you don't require a lot of light. However, if you're using your light as a "to-see" light, battery drain is very significant, and if you use an AA light solution, will definitely require daily recharges.

lerico 10-27-09 05:00 PM

I got my magicshine from DealExtreme for less than $80 shipped. It's an excellent light.

wastan 10-27-09 10:04 PM

another vote for Dealextreme. I'm using a "lesser" cree flashlight (i.e., not a p7) in a holder (also DX) that cost me less that $15 total. I think delivery time was around 2 weeks.

BarracksSi 10-27-09 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 9936195)
The one name...right now...is Magicshine!*

*Note to Geoman: Royalities may be sent to my Paypal account


Originally Posted by ambrisdelighted (Post 9936215)
I don't see Magicshine on amazon... :(

Click on the underlined "Magicshine" link.

On the other hand, I'll contend that the Supernova that sauerwald mentioned (and the B&M Cyo, for that matter) is plenty bright. Spend once on a dynohub & light setup and you'll never buy batteries for your bike again.

commo_soulja 10-28-09 03:34 AM

I have a pair of Dinotte 400Ls, one for the bike, one on the helmet. A bit pricey but they throw out decent lumens and the batteries last a while. You won't find em on Amazon but they have deals direct.
The Magicshines have been getting good reviews around here and they're relatively cheap to boot. They're at the top of my list for lights for my spare bike cuz I hate transferring lights to another bike.

GeoMan 10-28-09 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Griffin2020 (Post 9936505)
And I am here to offer the dissenting opinion.
I attempted to place an order with Geomangear over a week ago.
It failed twice (Paypal once, and his site...SQL issues). I got an email from him that night asking if I would share the reason why I did not complete the order. I was impressed at that time.
I responded that night, and noticed that the charge was pending on my card, so I asked if the order had actually gone through.
No response. The charge has completed, the Geomangear site still shows the item in my cart (as in I did not complete the order), and there is nothing pending shipment.
I have sent him another email and a couple of Twitter messages. I directly asked for a response with a time limit. I have not gotten a response.
His legendary customer service appears to me to be exactly that...a legend.
I am going to my bank tonight to file against the charges, since I cannot get a response from him.
The sad thing is that I wanted the light, but since he cannot be bothered to send a response saying, "Yes, the order will be processed," or "No, the charge was a mistake, and there is no shipment coming," I am forced to take action.

So sorry to hear this! We are intent on making your experience "astonishing". This is the first I have heard of your issue. I must admit, the Magicshine orders overwhelmed us temporarily but we're back on track after re-working our shipping department. We're shipping now and have ample inventory on-hand.

Please send an email to me directly, I will make it worth your trouble. I promise.

geo@geomangear.com

Thank you and sorry!

Geo

kaseri 10-28-09 06:24 AM

Running a Dinotte 800L and a 140r for my commuting. Works wonderfully.

lshaped 10-28-09 08:07 AM

i'm running a riterider slickrock 900 lumens
great light

scottmorrison99 10-28-09 08:13 AM

I have purchased a Garmin 305 and more recently a Garmin 705 from Geoman.I had quick shipping and good communication in both instances. I'm sure he'll take care of you.

MilitantPotato 10-28-09 01:25 PM

I've got a set from AyUp coming. 6+ hours on high, flashing-low-high modes, and good reviews all around.

Lord Chaos 10-29-09 09:53 AM

I used a Light and Motion Arc for years, and liked it. It has been replaced by the Seca 700, which is a better light. The beam pattern is just perfect, I think. I use a DiNotte 400L taillight.

Yes, this was an expensive way to go, but there's more to lighting than being seen. When I'm out at night on city streets I want to stand out. When motorists see these lights they think I'm a motorcycle, and they wait for me to pass. I like that.

From what I've read, the Magicshine light does a great job in front. I've heard they're working on a taillight. I hope it's as good as the DiNotte.

julianpowell 10-29-09 10:02 AM

:)

Originally Posted by Griffin2020 (Post 9936505)
And I am here to offer the dissenting opinion.
I attempted to place an order with Geomangear over a week ago.
It failed twice (Paypal once, and his site...SQL issues). I got an email from him that night asking if I would share the reason why I did not complete the order. I was impressed at that time.
I responded that night, and noticed that the charge was pending on my card, so I asked if the order had actually gone through.
No response. The charge has completed, the Geomangear site still shows the item in my cart (as in I did not complete the order), and there is nothing pending shipment.
I have sent him another email and a couple of Twitter messages. I directly asked for a response with a time limit. I have not gotten a response.
His legendary customer service appears to me to be exactly that...a legend.
I am going to my bank tonight to file against the charges, since I cannot get a response from him.
The sad thing is that I wanted the light, but since he cannot be bothered to send a response saying, "Yes, the order will be processed," or "No, the charge was a mistake, and there is no shipment coming," I am forced to take action.

i wouldn't feel right if i didn't chime in, that when i rodered my light i went through the same problem at checkout. i thought none of hte orders had gone through, turns out 4 did when i checked the next day. which was saturday, so i figured i'd get in touch monday. however, there was no need, as they fixed it on their own and left one order! good. then i noticed i put the wrong shipping address, because apparently i'm a moron. sent a message, and got a prompt and pleasan reply acknowledging the change and giving me a timeframe. right on time i got an email that the light was shipping, and it came fast. so my experience was really good...i know as a lifelong service sector worker that there's always a horror story, but i was really pleased.

oh yeah, and i got the magicshine, and let me say that the thing is ridiculously bright and i can't wait to get it on the road at night! the flashing mode is vertigo-inducing. and it even arrived charged!

ItsJustMe 10-29-09 11:52 AM

I ordered some additional Magicshine lightheads from Geoman a couple of weeks ago, then contacted him a few days ago when I found out that they now had shorter cables (it's for a friend's ebike project and he needs the long cables). They not only confirmed that the lightheads shipped with the extension cables, but they threw in another accessory that I was asking about for free.

Meantime, I just got an email from DealExtreme this morning that the stuff that I ordered on SEPTEMBER 11 *just* shipped today, and should be here in a week or so.

I don't care if they're even $20 more than DealExtreme, I'm still going to order stuff from Geoman in the future.

andrelam 10-29-09 01:30 PM

It sounds like you had a pretty cheap light on your bike. I don't know how price sensative you are.

If you need a descent cost effective descent light set, I can recomend the Plant Bike 1 Watt Blaze and SuperFash. Together they cost around $70. The Blaze is not be best all around head light, but it is very descent for the money. If you use this light you will certainly be able to see the road in a descent way. If the Blaze is used as a front flasher it is abolutely stunning! I am getting months of daily use out of a set of AA batteries in Flashing mode (about an hour a day of use). For the SuperFlash rear light I also can get a few months of use out of the AAA lights. I've switched over to rechargable batteries and in the winter I simply charge them once per month.

I have used the Blaze as my primary light on my road bike. As I stated above the 1 Watt Blaze is a good start, and very affordable. For serious commuting you will have to spend more money to get lighting that is better than PO. For excellent night time visability I added a generator hubfront wheel (Shimano 70 series) and a B&M CYO R light. I use the Blaze in the front as a superb front flasher.

There are loads of options on battery powered lights as some folks have already mentioned some. I've heard nothing but great things about the Dinotte lights, but you will definitely be spending well over $100.

Happy riding,
André

errolprowse 10-29-09 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 9948188)
I ordered some additional Magicshine lightheads from Geoman a couple of weeks ago, then contacted him a few days ago when I found out that they now had shorter cables (it's for a friend's ebike project and he needs the long cables). They not only confirmed that the lightheads shipped with the extension cables, but they threw in another accessory that I was asking about for free.

Meantime, I just got an email from DealExtreme this morning that the stuff that I ordered on SEPTEMBER 11 *just* shipped today, and should be here in a week or so.

I don't care if they're even $20 more than DealExtreme, I'm still going to order stuff from Geoman in the future.

DEALEXTREME.COM rocks!!! ive spent a few hundred dollars there.

i love to ziptie my lights to my handle bar, and if they look cheap enough, no one will steal them. thats why i buy cheap lights from there.

dealextreme also has good deals on really nice cre-emitter flashlights, they also have a mount for a bicycle. you can get 250 lumens for 20 bucks, not bad

IronMac 10-29-09 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by sauerwald (Post 9936279)
I have two sets of lights on my commuter bike.
Battery powered lights are Dinotte: http://www.dinottelighting.com/
http://www.dinottelighting.com/images/photographya.jpg
I operate both my headlight (200L Lithium 4 cell batterpack) and tail light (140L with 4 cell battery pack) in flashing mode, where I get over 20 hours of light on a charge.

I also have a generator powered headlight and tail light from Supernova which I got through Peter White: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com I have the Supernova E3 headlight and 161T taillight:
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/imag...VA%20161-S.jpg
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/imag...rnova-e3_t.jpg

Almost like you...running a dual 400L set though.

Do you find the E3 kind of dimmish? Maybe it's just me...

daredevil 10-29-09 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by agarose2000 (Post 9936690)
Terralux (cheapest solution) flashlights which run on 2xAA batteries and puts out 200 lumens which is more than enough for typical night riding.

Been running a P7 and a Fenix but just ordered one of these. I remember you talking about them in a different thread and you can't go wrong with a 220 lumen light for under $30!

sonatageek 10-30-09 05:57 AM

I bought a Dinotte 800L / 400L last year and have been very happy with the light output and battery life. They were pricey, and if I had not had 'hobby' money from flipping some bikes, probably would not have spent that much.


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